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Robus · 14-09-2011 7:06pm #1

Customs officers have seized €8,000 in cash from a man at Dublin Airport.

The 25-year-old, who was boarding a flight to Amsterdam yesterday, had concealed the cash in his footwear and a suitcase.

How is that a crime?

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/8k-in-cash-seized-by-customs-at-dublin-airport-520542.html#ixzz1XxH8Y9mu

Crazy Horse 6 · 14-09-2011 7:08pm

It's not a crime.

Sky King · 14-09-2011 7:08pm

If it's over a certain amount you have to declare it... 6 and a half grand or thereabouts if my memory serves me well...

For Forks Sake · 14-09-2011 7:09pm

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/travel_to_ireland/customs_regulations_for_travellers.html

Under the Criminal Justice Act 1994 Section 38(1) as amended by the Proceeds of Crime (Amendment) Act 2005 Section 20, if you are carrying at least €6,348.69 in cash, a customs officer may seize and detain the cash. The customs officer must have reasonable grounds for believing the cash represents the proceeds of crime or is intended for use in criminal conduct.

hondasam · 14-09-2011 7:10pm

Robus wrote: »

Customs officers have seized €8,000 in cash from a man at Dublin Airport.

The 25-year-old, who was boarding a flight to Amsterdam yesterday, had concealed the cash in his footwear and a suitcase.

How is that a crime?

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/8k-in-cash-seized-by-customs-at-dublin-airport-520542.html#ixzz1XxH8Y9mu

Depends on how he got the cash. why was it hidden?

Eric Cartman · 14-09-2011 7:10pm

carrying over 6000 euro on you is probable suspicion that you are going to buy drugs, If he was going to the UK with sterling they'd leave him go as they would assume it was for a car, but carrying 8 grand in cash to Amsterdam would be a drug suspicion , now it shouldn't be able to be seized. As far as im concerned he can do whatever he wants inside the laws of Amsterdam with his 8 grand , but apparently the gards think otherwise

Sky King · 14-09-2011 7:10pm

Ah it's €6,348.69 in cash and not a penny more.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/travel_to_ireland/customs_regulations_for_travellers.html

Where the hell do they get these arbitrary figures?

--LOS-- · 14-09-2011 7:10pm

probably because it was undeclared money

Eric Cartman · 14-09-2011 7:11pm

Sky King wrote: »

Ah it's €6,348.69 in cash and not a penny more.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/travel_to_ireland/customs_regulations_for_travellers.html

Where the hell do they get these arbitrary figures?

translation from £5000 punts or so id imagine

Bullseye1 · 14-09-2011 7:12pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

carrying over 6000 euro on you is probable suspicion that you are going to buy drugs, If he was going to the UK with sterling they'd leave him go as they would assume it was for a car, but carrying 8 grand in cash to Amsterdam would be a drug suspicion , now it shouldn't be able to be seized. As far as im concerned he can do whatever he wants inside the laws of Amsterdam with his 8 grand , but apparently the gards think otherwise

Maybe he was buying an engagement ring:D although he was being sneaky about it.

mkdon05 · 14-09-2011 7:12pm

Sky King wrote: »

Ah it's €6,348.69 in cash and not a penny more.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/travel_to_ireland/customs_regulations_for_travellers.html

Where the hell do they get these arbitrary figures?

That would have been 5000 punts back in the good ol days!

Standard Toaster · 14-09-2011 7:13pm

Big feet.

Eric Cartman · 14-09-2011 7:13pm

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Maybe he was buying an engagement ring:D although he was being sneaky about it.

if he was doing something shady (no accusation) and just made up a printoff of some car ad for a vintage car for sale in amsterdam, called the owner and told them hed be over, then brought all the money in an envelope in his bag they would have let him go.

Resi12 · 14-09-2011 7:15pm

Robus wrote: »

Customs officers have seized €8,000 in cash from a man at Dublin Airport.

The 25-year-old, who was boarding a flight to Amsterdam yesterday, had concealed the cash in his footwear and a suitcase.

How is that a crime?

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/8k-in-cash-seized-by-customs-at-dublin-airport-520542.html#ixzz1XxH8Y9mu

Well the fact he didn't declare it and hid the money on a flight to Amsterdam screams hookers and/or drugs.

I don't get why you're so worked up about it. It only seems normal to have to declare massive amount of money.

Eric Cartman · 14-09-2011 7:16pm

Resi12 wrote: »

Well the fact he didn't declare it and hid the money on a flight to Amsterdam screams hookers and/or drugs.

I don't get why you're so worked up about it. It only seems normal to have to declare massive amount of money.

I dont know the law exactley, but inside the EU it seems a bit needless and against the free movement act

Biggins · 14-09-2011 7:17pm

Robus wrote: »

Customs officers have seized €8,000 in cash from a man at Dublin Airport.

The 25-year-old, who was boarding a flight to Amsterdam yesterday, had concealed the cash in his footwear and a suitcase.

How is that a crime?

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/8k-in-cash-seized-by-customs-at-dublin-airport-520542.html#ixzz1XxH8Y9mu

I suggest you read some of the following: http://www.google.com/search?q=why%20has%20money%20to%20be%20declared%20at%20an%20airport

There are VERY good reasons why money in large amounts, has to be declared.

Robus · 14-09-2011 7:20pm

Resi12 wrote: »

Well the fact he didn't declare it and hid the money on a flight to Amsterdam screams hookers and/or drugs.

I don't get why you're so worked up about it. It only seems normal to have to declare massive amount of money.

Thats not massive, and i'm not worked up enough to need to post twice:)

J K · 14-09-2011 7:20pm

He's allowed to bring the money.
But he has to tell them he has it.
This is so they can cross reference his name with their little list of money laundering, drug dealing bastards. Then they say to him "that's perfectly ok, Mr.Cooper, we see that you are not in fact a money laundering, drug dealing bastard, Do enjoy your trip sir." They can then engage him with some banter about the dangers of drugs and stds with great hilarity and everyone goes home happy.

Resi12 · 14-09-2011 7:20pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I dont know the law exactley, but inside the EU it seems a bit needless and against the free movement act

Not really, just because we are both members of the EU doesn't mean drug smuggling and other such stuff aren't a possibility.

Plus the big thing to me is he hid it, fair enough if he forgot to declare it/didn't know about the law but he obviously hid the money in two places for a reason.

Robus · 14-09-2011 7:25pm

Resi12 wrote: »

Plus the big thing to me is he hid it, fair enough if he forgot to declare it/didn't know about the law but he obviously hid the money in two places for a reason.

It’s not exactly hidden if it’s in his suitcase, the footwear may also have been in his suitcase!

Resi12 · 14-09-2011 7:25pm

Robus wrote: »

Thats not massive, and i'm not worked up enough to need to post twice:)

Sorry, the title seems you are a bit outraged by the situation.

I mean buying drugs over there to smuggle back, that or anything. If he went to the trouble of hiding the money he was obviously up to no good. Especially in two places, one on him and one not.

Robus wrote: »

It’s not exactly hidden if it’s in his suitcase, the footwear may also have been in his suitcase!

Yes it is. If you're carrying money you carry it with you, you don't conceal (and they did say conceal) the money in your footwear and suitcase. You at least have some on you.

I think if his footwear was in his case they wouldn't have bothered to say two separate locations thus making me think they were hidden in the shoes he had on him.

Eric Cartman · 14-09-2011 7:26pm

Resi12 wrote: »

Not really, just because we are both members of the EU doesn't mean drug smuggling and other such stuff aren't a possibility.

Plus the big thing to me is he hid it, fair enough if he forgot to declare it/didn't know about the law but he obviously hid the money in two places for a reason.

Ok, if hes drug smuggling, catch the drugs on the way back in , dont just take cash of a lad at the airport and assume it , ok he shouldnt have hid it but I dont think customs should have the right to even ask him to declare it, let alone take it off him inside the EU

Robus · 14-09-2011 7:27pm

Resi12 wrote: »

I mean buying drugs over there to smuggle back, .

How do you know he was buying drugs!

Sky King · 14-09-2011 7:29pm

He might just be a high roller who deals in fat stacks yo

almighty1 · 14-09-2011 7:31pm

Robus wrote: »

How do you know he was buying drugs!

Amsterdam, 8k in cash, not declaring it. I'd say there is an 80% chance thats its drugs related.

--LOS-- · 14-09-2011 7:31pm

Doesnt matter if he tried to hide it or not, you have to declare large sums of money, those are the rules put in place for good reason. If he had nothing to be worried about and no bad intentions for the money then why didn't he just declare it.
Why is this even a story at all.

Resi12 · 14-09-2011 7:37pm

almighty1 wrote: »

Amsterdam, 8k in cash, not declaring it. I'd say there is an 80% chance thats its drugs related.

Yeah, he was hardly going over to buy 8K worth of clogs.

Robus · 14-09-2011 7:37pm

almighty1 wrote: »

Amsterdam, 8k in cash, not declaring it. I'd say there is an 80% chance thats its drugs related.

So there is a 20% chance, on your maths, they took money from an innocent man.

almighty1 · 14-09-2011 7:39pm

Resi12 wrote: »

Yeah, he was hardly going over to buy 8K worth of clogs.

Not saying he was buying 8k of drugs, just that the money come from or was going to be used in some drug related activity.

Resi12 · 14-09-2011 7:39pm

Robus wrote: »

So there is a 20% chance, on your maths, they took money from an innocent man.

If you hide money and break the law by not declaring it, you are not innocent.

/Thread.

Robus · 14-09-2011 7:44pm

Resi12 wrote: »

/Thread.

almighty1 · 14-09-2011 7:46pm

Robus wrote: »

So there is a 20% chance, on your maths, they took money from an innocent man.

No.....what makes you think that? I said IMO that there is an 80% chance that its drugs related. There are many more reasons why he would be carrying that much money and not be innocent.

stimpson · 14-09-2011 7:48pm

Guy was an idiot and deserved to be caught.

Pre paid VISA debit cards FTW.

Robus · 14-09-2011 7:53pm

almighty1 wrote: »

No.....what makes you think that? I said IMO that there is an 80% chance that its drugs related. There are many more reasons why he would be carrying that much money and not be innocent.

80% chance drugs related, many more reasons not innocent, still a small % left for innocent of anything bar not declaring?

Sky King · 14-09-2011 7:54pm

Maybe he forgot he had it, like Bertie?

almighty1 · 14-09-2011 7:55pm

Robus wrote: »

80% chance drugs related, many more reasons not innocent, still a small % left for innocent of anything bar not declaring?

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510%

Robus · 14-09-2011 7:59pm

almighty1 wrote: »

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510%

Pie in the sky chance.

Resi12 · 14-09-2011 8:17pm

Robus wrote: »

80% chance drugs related, many more reasons not innocent, still a small % left for innocent of anything bar not declaring?

Anyone living in a post 9/11 society knows how strict airport security is on anything and everything.

I'm sorry but you'd have to be clueless to think you could bring such a large amount of money to a different country (EU or not) and not have some sort of declaration to make. Like I am sure it would cross anyone's mind, you would surely Google it or ask someone.

You definitely wouldn't leave it up to chance, well I don't think a truly innocent/smart person would anyway. That and they wouldn't have it concealed.

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