Frontline to discuss church/state relations

Delirium

Frontline will be discussing church/state relations. Thought it might be of interest to some of forum.

From Atheist Ireland facebook:

Jane Donnelly and Micheal Nugent will be audience participants in a discussion on church state relations on RTE's The Frontline tonight at 10.30pm

MagicMarker

Sweet, Kenny will show Tubridy how it's done.

Will this be the main feature or will it be stuck in for the last 15 minutes?

strobe

MagicMarker wrote: »

Sweet, Kenny will show Tubridy how it's done.

Will this be the main feature or will it be stuck in for the last 15 minutes?

Going to be the main topic:


http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0912/blog-frontlineblog.html

"The law of the land should not be stopped by a crozier or by a collar" Taoiseach Enda Kenny, 14 July
Monday, 12 September 2011

Tonight The Frontline returns for a new season.

With the Cloyne report and the Taoiseach’s speech to the Dáil, relations between the State and the Catholic Church are at an all time low and about to sink even further.

New proposals on child protection will introduce mandatory reporting and any failure to report allegations of child abuse shall be subject to sanction such as a fine and a prison sentence.

But what about the seal of confession? The Church is calling for an exemption to be included in the legislation but Ministers insist they will make no exception for what is said in the privacy of the confession box.

Cardinal Seán Brady, the Archbishop of Armagh and Primate of All Ireland described this as “a challenge to the right of every Catholic to freedom of religion and conscience.”

Is there any middle ground to be found here? And is the row over confession distracting our attention from the other issues surrounding mandatory reporting - can our already overstretched child protection system even cope with the upsurge in reporting that the new system will bring?

We’ll be putting this to the Minister for Children Frances Fitzgerald and also in the studio Bishop Leo O’Reilly, former Supreme Court Justice Catherine McGuiness, campaigner Andrew Madden and many other interested parties.

Do join us on The Frontline, tonight 22.35, RTÉ One.

Should be good enough. A Minister, a Bishop and a SC Judge (walk into a bar..{sorry})

MagicMarker

Jaysis we start with a bleedin' nutjob.

vicwatson

Yeh it didn't start well ! Why don't they move to an island and then they don't have to obey civil law, :mad::mad: they can have whatever laws they want, freak

vicwatson

Sorry two freaks to start

vicwatson

Yeh sense at last !

cavedave

A:So your institution covered up abuse by priests for decades?

B: Let us worry about a hypothetical case and spend all our time talking about it.

A: Eh no can we talk about the actual actions of the hierarchy of your institution?

B: "Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey!" causing a juror's head to explode.

Delirium

kenny asked the bishop, "in a multi-cultural society, how do we decide what religious traditions are exempted from civil law"?

bishop basically says, "sure catholism has worked great for ages." and avoids answerng the question.

UDP

koth wrote: »

kenny asked the bishop, "in a multi-cultural society, how do we decide what religious traditions are exempted from civil law"?

bishop basically says, "sure catholism has worked great for ages." and avoids answerng the question.

Worse than a politician. He avoided talking about all the suffering they have caused too and wiggled out of the whole point of the question. Nobody can answer why the RCC should get a specific exemption. I thought the minister did a great job of pointing out time and time again that the law will apply to all organisations and that it is there to protect children.

It is crazy to hear the RCC arguing against protecting children...oh wait...