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Dog for deer

  • 12-09-2011 1:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47


    Anybody on here use a teckel to blood track??
    I'm in the process of looking for a dog myself and was wondering what your opinion was on what dog to get. I was looking for a teckel myself but they are very hard to come by.
    Thanks in advance..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭DR6.5


    Uncle had one, hardy little dog. The one thing i would say about them is they are very stubborn/headstrong and can be hard to train.

    Another problem is that if you are stalking hill ground high heather can be a problem for them.

    I use a lab for the deer, would recomend a lab for deer, easy to train and great natured dog.

    Another dog you could look at is the GWP again a very good dog for deer.

    dr6.5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭gentleman jim


    i'd reconmend either a lab or a GWP as both are quite easy to train!
    both have great noses!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    i'd reconmend either a lab or a GWP as both are quite easy to train!
    both have great noses!

    Are you still in Australia Jim?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 reddeer1


    Buy yourself a Bavarian mountain hound like myself. Bought her off a chap in Tipperary last week. You won't get a better blood hound if trained properly:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭tfox


    I often thought I might like a teckel but as previously posted I'd imagine they'd struggle with high heather and brash ?

    I use a lurcher at the minute, shes getting on though, might replace her with a viszla or bavarian mountain hound :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,808 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    i'd reconmend either a lab or a GWP as both are quite easy to train!
    both have great noses!

    Yep - I can always tell when I'm in deer country by the body language of my Lab. He'd follow deer all day if he could:D;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 teckel


    must not be a lot of hunters using dogs to follow up on deer in this country??????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭fallowbuck


    Not as much as one would think i use GWHP, and a LabXSpinger and the mongrel is far better, more robust, less timid, better awareness of deer when we apprach them, better nose, and makes more comotion when he finds the deer if he needs to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    teckel wrote: »
    must not be a lot of hunters using dogs to follow up on deer in this country??????

    I'd say 1/20.
    I tried to conduct poll once......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 teckel


    but should'nt the mindset change here towards this type of hunting. we owe it to our quarry to follow up a wounded animal. I think we should be promoting dogs for deer.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    teckel wrote: »
    but should'nt the mindset change here towards this type of hunting. we owe it to our quarry to follow up a wounded animal. I think we should be promoting dogs for deer.....

    Touch wood I never lost a deer.
    also a torch is cheaper to feed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭fallowbuck


    But the bond with a dog is much more enjoyable tho. I do think anyone shooting deer should have access to at least 1 dog. How many of you out there do ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    fallowbuck wrote: »
    But the bond with a dog is much more enjoyable tho. I do think anyone shooting deer should have access to at least 1 dog. How many of you out there do ???

    I could get a hound if I needed one.
    Never needed one though.

    Friend of mine is in the ward union ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Nice to see that they are being called this here in the Bavarian manner and dialect.:D.
    The big design fault with them is their long spine and short little legs.So any leaping or climbing is absolutly bad news for them in th long run. By rights they shouldnt even be allowed to climb stairs.:eek:

    If they are working dogs,they can get the socalled Teckel lahmung.[Trans] Teckel paralisis.In which their rear legs give out,either permantely or for a short period of time.It is still not known wether it is a genetic hereditary defect or a age related problem.But is more common in the workers rather than the pets.Yes they are stubborn,and get cranky and vicious in old age if they are hunting dogs.
    If you want a fine little dog for foxes ,the Dackel is a great fighter and for wild boar they are demented to the point of sucidial.
    But were it just a tracker dog,there are plenty of others ,Hanovarian blood hound,Bavarian blood hound,Hungarian Vistula[?],American fox hound or coonhound are great scent dogs.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭ianoo


    fallowbuck wrote: »
    But the bond with a dog is much more enjoyable tho. I do think anyone shooting deer should have access to at least 1 dog. How many of you out there do ???

    recently got myself a GWP pup for that very reason ,missed having a dog with me when out stalking ....coming along nicely she is too :D:D

    ian ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭fallowbuck


    They are good company even tho at time's they can make a noise at the wrong time :eek: like shaking himself or sluping from a stream but a good deer dog is worth its weight in gold and a good friend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 teckel


    Touch wood I never lost a deer.
    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    No need for :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.
    I don't take a shot if I don't think I will get a clean kill.

    And I have never lost a deer, stalking since the late 90's.
    As I said, touch wood!
    If I needed a dog I could get one, Never needed one.
    I stalk in several counties so having a dog would severely limit my manoeuvrability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭arrowloopboy


    No need for :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.
    I don't take a shot if I don't think I will get a clean kill.

    And I have never lost a deer, stalking since the late 90's.
    As I said, touch wood!
    If I needed a dog I could get one, Never needed one.
    I stalk in several counties so having a dog would severely limit my manoeuvrability.

    Is it just aul soft fallow you stalk ,or do ya Sika Stag stalking aswell ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Is it just aul soft fallow you stalk ,or do ya Sika Stag stalking aswell ?

    Only soft fallow...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    Only soft fallow...
    You will be on the sika before the end of the deer season ....down here in wicklow ;).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭underthetumb


    Would love to get one, but living in the town at the min and until I move back home to the country I won't be getting one. I lost a deer last year, and it is an awful feeling, felt so quilty. Would have loved access to a good dog that night


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    tomcat220t wrote: »
    You will be on the sika before the end of the deer season ....down here in wicklow ;).

    That's a date ;)

    My mission this season is Red, Sika and fallow, although Technically I got a few fallow before season started.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭GixxerThou


    Had a good find yesterday evening with my GWP, Shot a pricket 10mins before dark off sticks, caught him a little far back, took out the liver. He ran into the wood and we lost sight of him. Being so close to dark it was hard to make myself wait before going to look but I have huge confidence in my dog. Took her to the strike and off she went like a rocket, 150 yards into the wood she brought me straight to him. I only started stalking with a dog last season when I inherited her from JWshooter but I will never be without one again. I feel they are an essential part of stalking kit, especially if your shooting woods in the evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭Mauser 308


    Guys in your experience/knowledge what are the better deer dog's for a novice trainer to work with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭tfox


    Mauser 308 wrote: »
    Guys in your experience/knowledge what are the better deer dog's for a novice trainer to work with?
    Lab for sure !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭fallowbuck


    I use a lab x spinger but id sway towards the lab also myself. Tho im sure the GWHP would be pritty good also>beagles and the likes would have a better nose for blood coming from the hound group but much harder to train.


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