Talk Talk Party on with free beer

shaunandelly

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2036093/TalkTalk-lay-575-Irish-workers--bosses-hold-giant-party-free-beer-clay-pigeon-shooting-food-music.html

Party on dudes !
Is there no shame? Time to move the diaspora in the Uk to strike back at this lot.

Nody

Shame for what? It is clearly a case of team building planned months in advance (in our company we usually start planning it 6 months before date) in a different freaking country!

Are you saying that if a company decides to shut down an office that the rest of the company in other countries should all cancel any and all events because of this?

Cookie_Monster

It's a further kick in the face for the Irish staff but that's all. The money spent on that wouldn't keep the Irish operation continuing or anything and I'm sure other division(s) of the company have done a good enough job to deserve it.

The reason they shut down in Waterford is the astronomical cost of doing business in Ireland, that's all.

mrsdewinter

Heard about this on Marian Finucane yesterday. Apparently, a busload of the Waterford workers were due to travel over for the weekend - one of the women said she was still going to go. Take them for everything they got, seemed to be the attitude.
Hope she got to tell some of her UK colleagues what they can expect when Talk Talk figures out how to transfer the entire operation to some call centre to Asia...

shaunandelly

Nody wrote: »

Shame for what? It is clearly a case of team building planned months in advance (in our company we usually start planning it 6 months before date) in a different freaking country!

Are you saying that if a company decides to shut down an office that the rest of the company in other countries should all cancel any and all events because of this?

Yes.......It makes them look insensitive. It may be in another country,but that country is next door. Not quite just about "shutting down an office" though is it ? It's the way they did it that sticks in the throat.

shaunandelly

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

It's a further kick in the face for the Irish staff but that's all. The money spent on that wouldn't keep the Irish operation continuing or anything and I'm sure other division(s) of the company have done a good enough job to deserve it.

The reason they shut down in Waterford is the astronomical cost of doing business in Ireland, that's all.

Is that labour cost in this case do you reckon, because I know of multinational firms that have moved to Ireland recently. Weren't they on about 30k ? Overall human to human contact was down I believe by 40%. Mainly because of those multi choice filtering qeustions ...you know the one."have you tried to turn it on you idiot" Firms talk about centres of excellence, but when it comes to it, cheapest wins and hang the quality.

queensinead

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

It's a further kick in the face for the Irish staff but that's all. The money spent on that wouldn't keep the Irish operation continuing or anything and I'm sure other division(s) of the company have done a good enough job to deserve it.

The reason they shut down in Waterford is the astronomical cost of doing business in Ireland, that's all.

No, they will always find somewhere cheaper. I doubt that "the cost of doing business in Ireland" will ever equal the Phillipines or parts of India, which is where they are relocating many of the jobs to.

The Irish workers should forget about being offended by this jamboree in England, and try for the best redundancy they can get.

But they are in shock, because as one worker said "we worked like dogs for them". They thought that being hard workers, non-unionised, compliant, would make a difference. But now they know better. You need a bit of power in this world before anyone takes you seriously, or bothers informing you about anything.

The lack of humanity or basic civility in the company not even notifying its Irish management (who sent "thanks a million. keep up the hard work" emails to workers on Tuesday) was an absolute disgrace.

Their behaviour on keeping people in the dark was shameful. The Irish taxpayer gave them millions to keep them sweet and to try to satisfy their greed. But that is the way with these guys. No matter how you bend over for them, they'll always be on the lookout for some poorer country where workers will accept rock bottom pay and conditions. Once that country gets off its knees, they'll up sticks and find another.

Duke Leonal Felmet

queensinead wrote: »

I doubt that "the cost of doing business in Ireland" will ever equal the Phillipines or parts of India, which is where they are relocating many of the jobs to.

The exact same thing was said of Japan and South Korea once.

thebman

Stupid management making stupid decisions TBH. Seems the management of the company seriously lack people skills or media savvy. Doesn't really bode well for the future of the company TBH.

Irish won't soon forget this and neither will their fellow workers in the UK so when they try to relocate them, it will be a harder fight to get them to train people in other countries to replace them.

I think in the long run, companies like this get what is coming to them.

RichardAnd

thebman wrote: »

Stupid management making stupid decisions TBH. Seems the management of the company seriously lack people skills or media savvy. Doesn't really bode well for the future of the company TBH.

Irish won't soon forget this and neither will their fellow workers in the UK so when they try to relocate them, it will be a harder fight to get them to train people in other countries to replace them.

I think in the long run, companies like this get what is coming to them.

I wouldn't be so sure. Many german companies made use of forced labour during world war two and some of these are still with us today. It's nice to believe in Karma but in my eyes, those that cheat and swindle and treat other like crap fly high. Not that I'd ever merit that behaviour, regardless of success.

The IRish people might not forget what Talk Talk have done but there is a sad note in this. When Dell announced 140 high level IT jobs a few months ago, the whole government came out to thank them with cringeworthy obsequiousness. This is the very same company that put nearly 2000 people out of work only a few years ago so we can clearly see that Dell look out for Dell, which isn't really surprising. Thus, I believe that If Talk Talk came back in a year and tossed us 50 jobs, Enda would roll out the red carpet once again.

Massive corporations migth be responcible for some of the greatest technological breakthroughs of the modern age but they are also one of the most inhumane facets of the global economy. One the one hand, they can provide a massive jobs boost to an area but as Dell and Talk Talk demonstrate, that can change at the flick of a switch.

thebman

RichardAnd wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure. Many german companies made use of forced labour during world war two and some of these are still with us today. It's nice to believe in Karma but in my eyes, those that cheat and swindle and treat other like crap fly high. Not that I'd ever merit that behaviour, regardless of success.

The IRish people might not forget what Talk Talk have done but there is a sad note in this. When Dell announced 140 high level IT jobs a few months ago, the whole government came out to thank them with cringeworthy obsequiousness. This is the very same company that put nearly 2000 people out of work only a few years ago so we can clearly see that Dell look out for Dell, which isn't really surprising. Thus, I believe that If Talk Talk came back in a year and tossed us 50 jobs, Enda would roll out the red carpet once again.

Massive corporations migth be responcible for some of the greatest technological breakthroughs of the modern age but they are also one of the most inhumane facets of the global economy. One the one hand, they can provide a massive jobs boost to an area but as Dell and Talk Talk demonstrate, that can change at the flick of a switch.

Dells market share had been falling for a few years before that and is worse now. Was a time the majority of Pc's were Dell's.

jimmycrackcorm

I saw an Ad for Talk-Talk broadband in the UK @ £3.25 per month.
Obviously you're going to have to get third world support at that price.

djpbarry

queensinead wrote: »

But they are in shock, because as one worker said "we worked like dogs for them".

Working like dogs in a call centre? Really?

I’m not excusing the ridiculously short notice given by Talk Talk to its employees, but it’s a sad state of affairs when the closure of a call centre is seen as a worrying development. And I mean no disrespect to the people losing their jobs – I spent a bit of time working a call centre myself in the past.

shaunandelly

djpbarry wrote: »

Working like dogs in a call centre? Really?

I’m not excusing the ridiculously short notice given by Talk Talk to its employees, but it’s a sad state of affairs when the closure of a call centre is seen as a worrying development. And I mean no disrespect to the people losing their jobs – I spent a bit of time working a call centre myself in the past.

It is a sad state of affairs. Especially in Waterford,where it just seems to be one hammer blow after the next. The place will be empty soon........................and Australia full.