The Emigration Option

donfers

let's say people have been looking for work in Ireland for a few months and have no success, they have qualifications and a few years experience so they think about emigrating

let's say they choose england

a few questions


what sort of cash would they need to fund themselves before they get a job there?

how do they afford that? (I mean you'd hardly be able to pay travel, cost of living, accommodation and deposit for a few months having only been on the dole the last few months)

should they secure the job before they go and how difficult is that?

positivethinkin

In the age of the internet it much easier to find job adverts in the countries you want. I just got a job in Germany. I have never been to germany. Risky I know but with the country in the S&%t what else can someone do. You can ask for skype interviews, phone interviews and if you are going for high paid job. They may even pay for you to fly to interview. Try your best to get a job before going.

MOney to go without a job to england. You would need to find someone there to help you. Maybe a shared room near companies you want to work for. so 2 months rent, food & transport costs. Flight money back if it all goes wrong.


Good luck. You are doing the right thing by asking for advice. Read as much as you can about the subject. Ask for advice & be as informed as you can before leaving.


You can do it

donfers

isn't the likelihood though that many of these employers/agencies willt ake one look at your CV and realise you are in Ireland and think it's not worth the hassle? (pps numbers/bank accounts etc etc)

also what about your qualifications - do you have to get them "translated" so to speak so they are made into the equivalent of the host country's educational requirements

i wish it was as easy as emailing CV and letter to foreign company but jesus if you think irish companies/agencies are bad for getting back to you, maybe foreign ones will be even less likely to get in touch

How hard is it and is it worth it?

Fran79

Hi
You may find this site helpfull
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/index.htm

philboy

I moved over to Newbury 3 months ago to be with my girlfriend who is here working for an Irish company. As regards money, it depends on where you are going to live. London obviously is more expensive than other areas. The estate agents over here are extortionate, we were asked to pay £800 in estate agents fees just for accepting a flat to rent. Then we are required to pay 6 weeks rent as a deposit(another £1k) and then a months rent in advance (£700). But this is only if your looking to rent the whole place yourself. We were lucky to find a place being let directly by the landlord so avoided the estate agency fees. If you are just renting a room, you'll avoid these heavy charges.

There is also water charges approx £110 per year. Council Tax broken into bands but around £50/60 a month per person. Once again, if you rent a room, your charges are probably a lot less.

Travel is quite expensive, but if your living near where your job searching it won't be as bad.

If your getting a car, insurance is more expensive as your an immigrant. There are special brokers that deal with immigrants and can save you money or else you could use a site like go compare. Petrol/Diesel is quite expensive £1.35 a litre for petrol @ the min.

For your National Insurance Number (NIN), which is equivalent to your PPS number. You just ring up and you will get an appointment within 3 days. If you need one straight away, your employer can use a temporary one.

For your CV, you could always get a UK Sim card and have a UK mobile number and put down a friends address in the UK *if that's an option. If a company rings then just say your at home tidying up some loose ends. Problem here is, interview would probably within a week or two and flights could be quite expensive.

I don't know what qualifications you have but you can transfer your leaving cert and courses into UCAS points which is what they'd look for in certain jobs.

Overall, its quite expensive, but if you just rent a room and use public transport, its doable. There is a lot more work over here than back home and not really any talk of recession either.

Cannibal Ox

I've done both living over there and applying from here. I'd advise starting with applying from here first. Give yourself a fixed timetable, say 3 or 4 months, and apply to as many as you can while saving up some cash. If you've got an address and number over there that'll help! If you do get an interview in short notice, sail and rail is cheap enough to do it but you need to give a full day for traveling. Get the fast boat too.

Money is really dependent on yourself. While looking I was living on between 50-60 per week and was lucky enough to have a few couches/floors to stay on, but if you have to you can get somewhere outside of the center of London for relatively decent prices. Then it's just a matter of paying for transport when you need it and when you do get a job getting somewhere closer.

krissovo

If you have skills that are in demand getting a job abroad from Ireland is no issue. If your skills are not in demand then you are probably best establishing a base in your desired country. I work for German company and the first interview was telephone, the second was a web conference with cam and last one was in Germany where I could claim for expenses.

If you are not established in the country when you start then you will pay the local emergency tax which is normally around 50% or so until you become registered correctly. The biggest challenge I had was opening a bank account but the employer helped me out with that.

deaglan169

why not look for work in the north, alot easier to attend an interview and open bank accounts etc

sentient_6

donfers wrote: »

how do they afford that? (I mean you'd hardly be able to pay travel, cost of living, accommodation and deposit for a few months having only been on the dole the last few months)

Well this is exactly where i call shenanigans on the whole media thing of crying over 'young people' heading to canada, oz & new zealand. They're doing it because they want to, nobody is on the bread line. If they were they wouldn't be doing it in the first place.

I don't mind people doing it at all, but to make out there's a gun to their heads, with Mary Black' No Frontiers playing in the background, is BS.