Flash mob haka.

Johro

Just saw this on BBC news, thought I'd share.

http://youtu.be/puXad30DSfg

foxinsox

I still love this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVufrShzUBw

Johro

foxinsox wrote: »

I still love this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVufrShzUBw

Yup.:)

mrboswell

I know that will possibly be a contentious post but here goes...

First off I think that the tradition of war dance prior to matches by NZ, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga etc. is fantastic. Traditions are always great, whether they are entertaining or not.

Now for the contentious part...
The tradition has been, for years, the "Ka Mate" haka. This has been performed by the union and league teams for years. I can remember as a kid the '87 world cup where all the white nz lads were out in the middle of the field not knowing what they were doing. Thats the tradition - the "Ka Mate" haka.

In recent years I have seen players "disrespect" the haka as performed by the kiwi's, wrongly in my opinion. It has been a tradition, that for the most part, has been respected. I remember one relatively recent incident where NZ had to perform the haka indoors and there was a bit of uproar about it.

In some respects, it may put opposition at a disadvantage having to stand watching as nz psych themselves up.
Personally, I think that as the kiwi's have actually changed their haka a number of times by adding in a throat cut or whatever, the tradition has been broken. So expecting opposition to stand and observe a tradition that keeps changing is a bit rich.

castie

mrboswell wrote: »

I know that will possibly be a contentious post but here goes...

First off I think that the tradition of war dance prior to matches by NZ, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga etc. is fantastic. Traditions are always great, whether they are entertaining or not.

Now for the contentious part...
The tradition has been, for years, the "Ka Mate" haka. This has been performed by the union and league teams for years. I can remember as a kid the '87 world cup where all the white nz lads were out in the middle of the field not knowing what they were doing. Thats the tradition - the "Ka Mate" haka.

In recent years I have seen players "disrespect" the haka as performed by the kiwi's, wrongly in my opinion. It has been a tradition, that for the most part, has been respected. I remember one relatively recent incident where NZ had to perform the haka indoors and there was a bit of uproar about it.

In some respects, it may put opposition at a disadvantage having to stand watching as nz psych themselves up.
Personally, I think that as the kiwi's have actually changed their haka a number of times by adding in a throat cut or whatever, the tradition has been broken. So expecting opposition to stand and observe a tradition that keeps changing is a bit rich.

We changed our song. Does that mean it should be sung in the dressing room?

Johro

Johro wrote: »

Just saw this on BBC news, thought I'd share.

http://youtu.be/puXad30DSfg

Oops.. Manners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puXad30DSfg

chris85

mrboswell wrote: »

I know that will possibly be a contentious post but here goes...

First off I think that the tradition of war dance prior to matches by NZ, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga etc. is fantastic. Traditions are always great, whether they are entertaining or not.

Now for the contentious part...
The tradition has been, for years, the "Ka Mate" haka. This has been performed by the union and league teams for years. I can remember as a kid the '87 world cup where all the white nz lads were out in the middle of the field not knowing what they were doing. Thats the tradition - the "Ka Mate" haka.

In recent years I have seen players "disrespect" the haka as performed by the kiwi's, wrongly in my opinion. It has been a tradition, that for the most part, has been respected. I remember one relatively recent incident where NZ had to perform the haka indoors and there was a bit of uproar about it.

In some respects, it may put opposition at a disadvantage having to stand watching as nz psych themselves up.
Personally, I think that as the kiwi's have actually changed their haka a number of times by adding in a throat cut or whatever, the tradition has been broken. So expecting opposition to stand and observe a tradition that keeps changing is a bit rich.

There are several haka, The "Ka Mate" one is the most common but others have been used by NZ. I forget the name of the one they introduced in 2007 but was good and was the one with the throat cutting. Its just a differing war song. Bit more brutal.

There was one incident were they had to perform it in the tunnel otherwise have not seen any disrespect of it.

The Munster quartet performing the haka was brilliant.

mrboswell

castie wrote: »

We changed our song. Does that mean it should be sung in the dressing room?

Our song* is not something that other countries don't get to have. Its not like they have to listen to ours and then don't get to hear thei own (or vice versa)

* Denotes rubbish song

chris85 wrote: »

There are several haka, The "Ka Mate" one is the most common but others have been used by NZ. I forget the name of the one they introduced in 2007 but was good and was the one with the throat cutting. Its just a differing war song. Bit more brutal.

There was one incident were they had to perform it in the tunnel otherwise have not seen any disrespect of it.

The Munster quartet performing the haka was brilliant.

I remember an England or Scot being fined for mooning during a haka a few years back and David Campese used to go off to the other end of the pitch and mess around with the ball.

But now it appears you must stand and watch:
Article that mentions the "do's and do not's" of the haka according to the IRB here

Looks like the Aussies are trying to wind them up:here

I think its a slight abuse of a privilege as they are the only nation to change their pre-match tradition.

SomeFool

I suppose we could always respond with this :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycVVKBLC1sQ