Puppy Toilet problem

lolly28

Just wondering has anyone any advice for me.

We just got a new puppy recently. He is a Caviller King Charles. His tempermant is great and behaviour has settled down really well.

But he is outside all day, i have a hug garden and is let rome around outside while we are in and out of the house. At night he is put to bed which is in our porch (which is filled in and like a proper room now) but he is still going to the toilet there. Because he is out for so long he can go as often and where ever he wants so when he is in the porch he does the same. He does although go on newspaper. He is 13 and a half weeks now.

I don't know how to approach training him not to go at night? Will this come in time?

P.S He isnt put to bed until 11ish at night and is let out at 7am the next morning.

Thanks

Kash

He's a bit young to hold it for 8 hours...

Ours sleep in our bedroom, so we trained our little'un by waking up at roughly the same time every night to bring her out to pee. In the beginning this was typically 3 times a night. After a while, I spaced out the toilet breaks until it was just two, then one, then none

She was holding it through the night by five-six months.

Hope this helps!

DamagedTrax

are you cleaning the porch properly with the right products to get rid of the scent? if he can still smell it then he'll assume thats where he should be going.

if you catch him in the act give him a very stern NO and lift him out to where he should be going. remember to praise him to heaven when he goes outside in the right place! but dont scold him if you find some business after he's done it, he wont know what you're talking about and will just end up confused.

if he goes on paper thats great, at 13 weeks his bladder is still developing so there's no real training him not to go at night.

andreac

Ok firstly, a 13 week old puppy should not be outside all day by itself and you wont get a pup toilet trained this way.

Secondly, you have to train a pup where you want it to go to the toilet as they dont automatically know themselves where they have to go and will just go whenever they need to go. Their bladders are very week at that age and they cant hold it for very long so if they need to go, they just will, no matter where they are.
You need to bring the pup outside every so often and praise and encourage the pup to go to the toilet, then it realises that outside is good and the place where they should go.

Also at night, they cant hold it in all night, so you will have to get up once or twice during the night to let it out to go, as they wont be able to hold it for that long. 8 hours is far too long to leave a pup without letting it out for the toilet.

I would also suggest crate training. Its a brilliant way to speed up toilet training.

planetX

it's gonna be months before he gets through the night reliably. I'd be more concerned about him not getting housetraining in the day - he's not learning not to pee in the house. Might be saving up trouble rather than tackling it now?

lolly28

Hes not outside all day on his own, as i said he is outside with us there going in and out, gets loads of attention, that isnt the problem.

Also thanks for the replies. When he is in the house with us he doesn't go toilet as he walks to the door and hes let out. Will defo try getting up in the middle of the night.

andreac

lolly28 wrote: »

Hes not outside all day on his own, as i said he is outside with us there going in and out, gets loads of attention, that isnt the problem.

Ive given advice about night time too. You cant expect a 13 week old pup to hold it in for 8 hours, its very unfair. So you are going to have to get up during the night and let it out until it gets to an age where it can hold it for long enough, but that wont be for a few months at least.

aisher

My puppy was born 25 April so around the same age- she is able to go from 11 to 8.30 without the need to go to the toilet so I think its possible at a young age - she is a small dog - a cross between a Cavalier and a Bichon so size wise similar to your own. I have her in a crate at night - for the first two weeks when we took her home we had to let her out to wee/poo during the night - around 3.30 (she would cry in her crate) and then the minute she got up she would go again. I think the problem you have is that the porch is big enough for her to soil and still have a clean bedding area - in a crate the dog wont soil as it does not like to sleep in its own mess. Before we got the crate (first two nights) she soiled the kitchen floor. My advice would be to get a crate - also if she out during the day she is 'free' to let go whenever she wants so she is not being trained - could you keep in her during the day and give her regular toilet breaks - if not she may never learn the concept of house training. Good Luck - it gets easier lol

lolly28

Thanks that helps! I was thinking that the porch was too small cause he did spend one night somelse just for a different reason and it was much smaller! When he is in the house he doesn't go.

SlimCi

We are crate training our puppy and he has held it since he was 9 weeks old and never once had an accident in the crate. I think a crate may be very suitable. Also you do need to socialise the pup a bit more in the house I think and get him used to what is allowed and what is not.