Scottish Conservative Party to disband

HellsAngel

Maybe because the oil is running out but the Tories are disbanding in Scotland. Is this yet another wee crack in the facade of the 'United' Kingdom ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/scottish-politics/8739927/Scottish-Conservative-Party-set-to-disband.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/09/04/telegraph-scottish-conser_n_948246.html

blahfckingblah

Good to see the tories suffering and as you say its another step towards scottish independance.

Dionysus

HellsAngel wrote: »

Maybe because the oil is running out but the Tories are disbanding in Scotland. Is this yet another wee crack in the facade of the 'United' Kingdom ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/scottish-politics/8739927/Scottish-Conservative-Party-set-to-disband.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/09/04/telegraph-scottish-conser_n_948246.html

Very interesting and significant.

dsmythy

It's replacement would still sit with the Tories in the house of commons and support Scotland being within the UK. No change really. A "reboot" of sorts is required going by their recent performances in Scotland.

Fratton Fred

So the Scottish Conservative and Unionist party will become the Scottish Unionist and Conservative party.

Wow.

Batsy

blahfckingblah wrote: »

Good to see the tories suffering and as you say its another step towards scottish independance.

The Tories aren't suffering.

What's merely going to happen is that the Conservative Party in Scotland will be disbanded but another right-of-centre party will take its place. It is hoped that this fresh new party will gain many Scottish supporters and breathe new life into the Right in Scotland (and it needs to happen. The Scots have embraced socialism for too long).

But having no Conservative Party in Scotland is nothing new. There wasn't a Conservative Party in Scotland until 1965. Prior to then, Scotland had a Unionist Party, but which was associated with the Conservative Party in England and Wales. However, in 1965 the Unionist Party of Scotland merged with the Conservative Party in England and Wales (just as the Liberal Party merged with the Social Democratic Party in 1988 to form the Liberal Democrats).

And, by the way, hoping that the proposed disbanding of one right-of-centre political party in Scotland, to be replaced by another right-of-centre politcal party in Scotland, will somehow pave the way for Scottish independence is wishful thinking of the highest order.

A Dub in Glasgo

Most Scottish people will see through this just as most people saw through Windscale -> Sellafield, Long Kesh -> HMP Maze etc

It is a rebranding which most toxic groups go through to try and start afresh

laoch na mona

Batsy wrote: »

The Scots have embraced socialism for too long

care to explain i dont remember seeing the sicle and the hammer around glasgow

A Dub in Glasgo

Batsy wrote: »

The Tories aren't suffering.

They are in Scotland

Fr Tod Umptious

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

They are in Scotland

Yea the Tories in Scotland got decimated at the 1997 general election, left without a seat.

They had 21 in 1983 and it declined down to 0 by 1997, they got one back in 2001

So I really don't see how this is such a big deal, they were dead anyway

irishh_bob

Batsy wrote: »

The Tories aren't suffering.

What's merely going to happen is that the Conservative Party in Scotland will be disbanded but another right-of-centre party will take its place. It is hoped that this fresh new party will gain many Scottish supporters and breathe new life into the Right in Scotland (and it needs to happen. The Scots have embraced socialism for too long).

But having no Conservative Party in Scotland is nothing new. There wasn't a Conservative Party in Scotland until 1965. Prior to then, Scotland had a Unionist Party, but which was associated with the Conservative Party in England and Wales. However, in 1965 the Unionist Party of Scotland merged with the Conservative Party in England and Wales (just as the Liberal Party merged with the Social Democratic Party in 1988 to form the Liberal Democrats).

And, by the way, hoping that the proposed disbanding of one right-of-centre political party in Scotland, to be replaced by another right-of-centre politcal party in Scotland, will somehow pave the way for Scottish independence is wishful thinking of the highest order.

the tory brand has been toxic in scotland for a very long time but i have no doubt that thier is a market for a right wing party in scotland , the scotts are cut from the same cloth as the unionist in northern ireland , they are not a lily livered wooly liberal people , on the contary , they are a hard people

HellsAngel

Batsy wrote: »

The Tories aren't suffering.

What's merely going to happen is that the Conservative Party in Scotland will be disbanded but another right-of-centre party will take its place. It is hoped that this fresh new party will gain many Scottish supporters and breathe new life into the Right in Scotland (and it needs to happen. The Scots have embraced socialism for too long).

But having no Conservative Party in Scotland is nothing new. There wasn't a Conservative Party in Scotland until 1965. Prior to then, Scotland had a Unionist Party, but which was associated with the Conservative Party in England and Wales. However, in 1965 the Unionist Party of Scotland merged with the Conservative Party in England and Wales (just as the Liberal Party merged with the Social Democratic Party in 1988 to form the Liberal Democrats).

And, by the way, hoping that the proposed disbanding of one right-of-centre political party in Scotland, to be replaced by another right-of-centre politcal party in Scotland, will somehow pave the way for Scottish independence is wishful thinking of the highest order.

Clearly the Tories are seen as an English party, the indentity of British is fading. SNP can only benefit, the Conservatives weren't trying to limit their influence in the Scottish parliament for nothing.

Son Of A Vidic

This development comes as no surprise, considering the Tories have been irrelevant in Scotland for quite a few years now.