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Which field of academia failed us most in contributing to the current Irish recession

  • 04-09-2011 9:34am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭


    Law?
    Politics?
    Property?
    Construction?
    Planning?
    Finance?
    Commerce?
    Philosophy?

    Am I missing any?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Law?
    Politics?
    Property?
    Construction?
    Planning?
    Finance?
    Commerce?
    Philosophy?

    Am I missing any?
    Astronomy.

    They discovered Planet Bertie!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    The top field, the tractor sunk in '03, been there since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭PAULWATSON


    well first of all, who is "US"?

    I'd say the global warming scam is the biggest racket in town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob


    PAULWATSON wrote: »
    well first of all, who is "US"?

    I'd say the global warming scam is the biggest racket in town.

    "Us" as in the citizens of the Irish nation - excuse me for not being clearer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    PAULWATSON wrote: »
    I'd say the global warming scam is the biggest racket in town.
    Didn't you hear? We don't have global warming anymore

    First there was the ozone layer and we fixed that
    They we had global warming
    Climate change is where it's at these days :cool:

    In the next decade climate change will be replaced by some new buzzword


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭PAULWATSON


    mikemac wrote: »
    Didn't you hear? We don't have global warming anymore

    First there was the ozone layer and we fixed that
    They we had global warming
    Climate change is where it's at these days :cool:

    In the next decade climate change will be replaced by some new buzzword

    And you'll pay through the nose for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭PAULWATSON


    "Us" as in the citizens of the Irish nation - excuse me for not being clearer

    The irish nation? The "EU" run the show these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob


    PAULWATSON wrote: »
    The irish nation? The "EU" run the show these days.

    I am still referring to the citizens of the nation and how they were failed.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    English Literature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    the ability to see into the future acadamy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭PAULWATSON


    I am still referring to the citizens of the nation and how they were failed.....

    They were failed? I'll give you an insight into life, none of your beloved leaders gets up in the morning and thinks "what can i do for the little people today?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    I am still referring to the citizens of the nation and how they were failed.....

    "They"?....are you not part of "us"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    "They"?....are you not part of "us"?

    I am - please excuse me for my errant ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭PAULWATSON


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    "They"?....are you not part of "us"?

    :D "all in this together"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    economics


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭gigino


    The public service - because it was the government, regulator + central bank who made + were supposed to enforce the rules / run the country ...and they f=====d up the economy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭PAULWATSON


    gigino wrote: »
    The public service - because it was the government, regulator + central bank who made + were supposed to enforce the rules / run the country ...and they f=====d up the economy

    true, and a squad of pigs are flying outside my window.

    So what happened every otherr economy in europe, the spanish are wrecking the place, so are the greeks, porto is supposedly on its last legs. Did berty run those shpws as well?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    gigino wrote: »
    The public service - because it was the government, regulator + central bank who made + were supposed to enforce the rules / run the country ...and they f=====d up the economy

    what about the private sector individuals (and everyone else) who borrowed from them?

    Are they to be absolved from their share of the blame?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    How can I put this as to the value of academia.

    The current and deepening crisis was set off by the graduates of the best schools in the world. All those bankers and economists trained at the London school of economics, Yale and the Ivy league, Oxbridge and other prestigious world universities.

    Also the most intellectual US cabinet in years was the Bush whitehouse, so education and professionalism is overrated when it comes to things like politics. Successful politics is more about luck then anything else.

    In Ireland we failed ourselves, the ordinary voter also the journalists and news organisations have a case to answer for.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    Let's be real: if the entire faculty at UCD and Trinity came out in 2006 and told the country that it would all end in a vale of tears, would anyone really have given a ****? Certainly Bertie and the good folks at ICTU wouldn't have...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    which field of academia failed us ?

    Construction?

    :confused:
    Am I missing any?

    yes the immigrants, its always the immigrants and the cats too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭REXER


    The Educators.

    The Irish educators from the bottom to the top are responsible for raising generations of people that are not capable of independent thought, refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions and have a herd mentality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    REXER wrote: »
    The Educators.

    The Irish educators from the bottom to the top are responsible for raising generations of people that are not capable of independent thought, refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions and have a herd mentality.

    Yep I agree, definitely this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    The Law. If we had adequate regulation in the banking sector, we would have avoided a world of pain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    Eh.. the financial advisers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Let's be real: if the entire faculty at UCD and Trinity came out in 2006 and told the country that it would all end in a vale of tears, would anyone really have given a ****? Certainly Bertie and the good folks at ICTU wouldn't have...

    Well considering that there WERE academics in UCD, Trinity and further afield saying that it was all going to end in tears (and well before 2006), we can safely say it didn't matter a jot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    The legal system OP. Serious answer. No-one should have allowerd the traitors away with bailing out the banks in a recession. Esp when it was clear to everyone involved that the guarantees were put in place to allow the banks to deal with their debts, not lumbar the tax payer with them.

    Not one politician or civil servant has been tried for teason over this when the case is so clear. That puts Gardai and the like on the wrong side of the law.


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