tyres - the more expensive the better???

bungaro79

probably going to buy some tyres from camskill for the car and get them put on at a garage but not sure which ones to buy. i know the well known brands like michelin, goodyear, etc but i'm wondering which would be the best ones to get?? looking at the details below for about €100 (incl delivery) which would ye recommend??


http://www.camskill.co.uk/m4b0s386p0/Car_Tyres_-_MPV_Tyres_-_People_Carrier_Tyres_-_14_inch_R14_inch_-_165_70_14_165_70_R_14

CiniO

bungaro79 wrote: »

probably going to buy some tyres from camskill for the car and get them put on at a garage but not sure which ones to buy. i know the well known brands like michelin, goodyear, etc but i'm wondering which would be the best ones to get?? looking at the details below for about €100 (incl delivery) which would ye recommend??


http://www.camskill.co.uk/m4b0s386p0/Car_Tyres_-_MPV_Tyres_-_People_Carrier_Tyres_-_14_inch_R14_inch_-_165_70_14_165_70_R_14

From your link the most expensive are at 49.30 pounds, so way less than €100

bungaro79

my bad cinio, meant for two tyres. so looking at the conversions i'd be looking for the best tyre around the £40 mark. but if the dearer ones are alot better then i'd pay more as its not much of a difference

hrcbob

Price doesnt always mean quality. Ive tries a lot of the middle price range tyres before and reckon some are better than well known brands, At the minute im runnin Falken on one car in 205 60 13s.. Brilliant tyre.. I have kumho in 195 65 15s on a citroen van , they wook well but i think the van sspension is too soft to let them work. i have yokahamas on my no1 "toy" They are like train tracks but the type i have on arent available in your size.. Actually the only ones in that size and model ive tried are the vredestien t track.. they did a decent job from what i remember.. good mileage and decent grip in the wet..

homer90

Depends what you define as better... Grip, wet & dry performance and wear etc. More expensive is not always better.
I cant fault mid range tyres, VREDESTEIN, Falken FK452, I have used previously. They had a good balance between performance and wear rate. Have had a car with Continental sport contacts fitted and found them to be excellent also, although a bit more expensive than most others.

It all depends what you want from a tyre.

bungaro79

thanks for the replies so far guys, thats two votes for the vredestien so might get them so!

Paddy001

Have you actually checked locally? Some of them makes are very expensive in that size there, dont forget to factor in delivery and fitting at 10-15 euro each

galwaytt

I'm on my set of Falken 452's from Camskills, and rate them highly. And well priced too.

I tried my local guy(s) first, and he told me straight up that if I was buying online he couldn't match them, but he'd be happy to mount the tyres and balance them.

If he was anywhere reasonably close, I'd have bought them locally, but the price gap was just too big - he stripped my old tyres off, and I went home and cleaned them, and brought them back for him to fit and balance the new ones on. Charged me €25. To do the 4. Bargain, and a nice guy, to boot.

TestTransmission

galwaytt wrote: »

Charged me €25. To do the 4. Bargain, and a nice guy, to boot.

That's a great price for the 4.

hrcbob

I think the norm for fitting and balancing is a tenner a wheel,, down this way atleast.. If youre like me and drive like miss daisy den balance is less of an issue so if youre doin mainly town driving you could consider giving that bit a miss..
some of the guys round here charge extra for sticky weights for alloys..

lomb

Got a set of Firestone f590s the other day on my golf. Budget tyre cost but very impressed versus previous Michelin Energys used. Very good wet grip levels, and said to wear slowly. Cant see the point in paying more?

hrcbob

Id be very wary of any tyre with the word "eco" or "energy" in their title.. It usually means that they are designed with a low rolling resistance to help car manufacturers to get lower co2 levels on tests. Low rolling resistance comes from using less sticky rubber and special thread patterns that let the tyre roll easily.. Neither of the the two above traits are useful for someone who wants a tyre that grips when they need it most.. They are prob great for someone who does a lot of motorway driving giving fuel economy and hard wearing but not so good for joe bloggs on the twisty wet crud covered irish winter roads.

Fishtits

Its funny. As I got older, tyres became less important.

Perhaps in my dotage I stopped squeeling around bends etc. and hence was less likely to find their limit of adhesion - under normal circumstances anyway.

Given the OP's tyre size, I'd suspect he doesn't spend Saturday night discussing ultimate grip in the wet vs dry with his mates...

My advise would be to choose a well recognised brand (I use Continental) cough up and drive on.

Leave the elaborate reviews to the racing drivers.

ventillenpimp

Got a set of Falken Ziex Ze-912, 215/50 R17s fitted and balanced for €440, good tyres at a good price i think!!

fletch

ventillenpimp wrote: »

Got a set of Falken Ziex Ze-912, 215/50 R17s fitted and balanced for €440, good tyres at a good price i think!!

Had these on my last car and I found them awful tbh (205/45/16)

kerten

OSI wrote: »

One thing I always look for in a tyre is the wet weather grip. Living in Ireland means you're unlikely to go a week without at least some, if not a lot, of rain so grip in the rain is very important to me.

I would highly recommend the Uniroyal Rain Sport/Expert series for just such the job, I find their wet grip to be exceptional, and I push very hard.

Agreed completely. I think dry grip limit is already quite high even for worst tyres(wanli, triangle, etc) in the market.

Rules change when it comes to wet grip. Emergency brake or taking a corner faster than it should be in a wet road are the worst scenarios for any tyre. And cheapest tyres on the market can't handle these situation as good as proper mid range or premium tyres.

IMO, Uniroyals are good tyres for irish weather and they are not expensive. I use rainexperts and am happy with dry and wet grip. They are a little bit noisy in my yaris but it is better to be safe than comfortable.

ventillenpimp

fletch wrote: »

Had these on my last car and I found them awful tbh (205/45/16)

What was so awful about them?This my second set of them and no probs! What had you got them on if ya dont mind me asking??

challengemaster

I'd recommend taking a trip up north and getting some part worns tbh - Was up yesterday, £50 for 3 tyres fitted and balanced, two p6000 and 1 hankook matched to the best one left

kerten

challengemaster wrote: »

I'd recommend taking a trip up north and getting some part worns tbh - Was up yesterday, £50 for 3 tyres fitted and balanced, two p6000 and 1 hankook matched to the best one left

I wouldn't recommend anyone part worns unless they know

- how to check production date of a tyre
- how to inspect a tyre for cracks
- how to check invisible bulges after fitting tyres inside and outside
- how to confirm if two tyres on same axle comes from same axle of same car
- how to drive with part worns(zero risk)


I may be overthinking but I see people just find themselves in ditches then blame other drivers, roads or cars itself instead of their no grip or problematic tyres(cheapest brand new, 7 years old michelin part worns, etc).