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what size cable

  • 03-09-2011 11:14am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭


    i am looking to run power out to a shed but dont know what size cable to run planning on putting a consumer unit in the shed. i will be putting in a few sockets and a light any help would be great


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    You could probably safely use 3 core 4 square or 6 square SWA for your shed.

    I used 3 core 10 square SWA for my garage,but thats for future proofing and to allow for future use of any diy equipment and machinery down there.




    The SWA runs underground through ducting,down through the back garden to the garage.

    The SWA goes into an IP Rated Fuseboard inside the garage (you must use an IP Rated board for a shed/garage) and I have 2 lights,4 double sockets,alarm system and leccy roller garage door on the garage fuseboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭mickjohnlong


    thanks for the reply would i need to go with the 10sq i would be putting a lot of stuff in it or much of a load on it also if i was using the armoured cable could it be clipped to the wall as i have no ducting to the shed


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    thanks for the reply would i need to go with the 10sq i would be putting a lot of stuff in it or much of a load on it also if i was using the armoured cable could it be clipped to the wall as i have no ducting to the shed
    To be able to size a cable it is essential to state length of run.
    If it just a light and a few sockets for general use and the run is short a 10 sq. as suggested should be fine.

    Yes you cloud clip to the wall, cleats with screws would be better. Use plenty of fixings or it will sag. A using chalk line will make it look better too (straight line).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭mickjohnlong


    its just for general use the run is roughly 50m


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    its just for general use the run is roughly 50m

    That is a long run!
    How big is the shed? Once the supply is in the shed, how far is the run to the furthest point?

    What sort/size of loads are you talking about?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    yes 50mt is a long run

    10sq is not the correct size for every job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭mickjohnlong


    its just a standard shed 12x12 i think mainly a light and sockets just to have if needed cant imagine any great load going on it


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    its just a standard shed 12x12 i think mainly a light and sockets just to have if needed cant imagine any great load going on it

    What you should do is:
    1) Work out your maximum possible load.
    2) I would add 25% to this for future expansion, but you don't have to. Treat this as your "design current"
    3) Select the next fuse size above this.
    4) Select the smallest sized cable that can safely carry this current continuously.
    5) Ensure that the volt drop using this cable size is within permissible values for this length of run while carrying the design current calculated earlier. If the volt drop is excessive go up a cable size until the hold drop issue is resolved.

    Also bear in mind:
    * It is best to have no joins on the cable whatsoever.
    * Ensure that the armor on the SWA is suitably bonded by using proper SWA glands. I personally prefer the CW type.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    yes that's about it i reckon

    the volt drop includes tails+sub-main and final circuit

    and a spark can get an idea of the end loop impedance from the impedance at main DB and impedance of sub-main and final cct
    http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Book/5.3.6.htm


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    M cebee wrote: »
    the volt drop includes tails+sub-main and final circuit
    Well said


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    It musy be a nasa control centre going in this shed.


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