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BROKE NEW GUN :-(

  • 02-09-2011 12:55pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭


    was out on the first for a duck, got a nice mallard and missed another one, unfortunately on the way back to car i twisted my ankle on a rock and dropped my brand new beretta 686 white onyx, it only fell about 1 foot to the ground and the stock snappped in two just above the trigger, was disgusted, does anyone know if my insurance with my gun club covers the breaking of a gun??

    cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    I think, and could well be mistaken, but if you are a normal NARGC member it is not covered. They are separate optional items under the scheme if I remember correctly

    Do you have house insurance as you may be able to get something for it through that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭goss101


    No house insurance no, renting an apartment in dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    goss101 wrote: »
    No house insurance no, renting an apartment in dublin.


    I actually think I would cry...

    I have seen stocks for sale on ebay before. Maybe you'll get lucky?
    Or you could repair it for now until you find one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    I feel for you man. That's an awful thing to happen, especially now. If it's the wrist, it can probably be repaired with a reinforcing rod, tape and glue, but realistically you'll probably want to get the stock replaced by a stockmaker. Not sure what cost will be but it might be best done early rather than later. No sense trying to get through a whole season with a bodged repair. I'd try salvage as much of it as possible. My sympathies though, rotten luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭goss101


    it's gone to gun shop already and will have it back next week with a new stock, no point having an ugly repair on a nice new gun, seen the stock online for 400 dollars, gun dealer said i should have a comeback on my insurance so here's to hoping, haven't contacted my club chairman yet to find out, on a good note after i broke the gun i got new permissions for a couple of hundred acres, full of corn, barley and other tillage! it's typical though i have an old valmet u/o and an old baikal s/s and in 20 years of shooting they haven't got as much as a scratch, and on the opening day of the season the new gun smashes after a tiny drop!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭323


    I feel for you man. That's an awful thing to happen, especially now. If it's the wrist, it can probably be repaired with a reinforcing rod, tape and glue, but realistically you'll probably want to get the stock replaced by a stockmaker. Not sure what cost will be but it might be best done early rather than later. No sense trying to get through a whole season with a bodged repair. I'd try salvage as much of it as possible. My sympathies though, rotten luck.

    Awful Luck, know the feeling, happened me two years ago, down through the wrist. My rifle discontinued a few years back and could not source a replacement, Styer never responded to numerous emails.
    Don't dismiss a repair, I had to, used Brownells Acragel from dealer on ebay in UK and a brass pin.
    When finished only one person has found where the splits were.

    Fairly good articleI found on fixing stocks below
    Repairing Split Cracked Stocks.PDF

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭goss101


    cheers for that article, the split in that one is nearly identical to mine but i have it on both sides of the stock, i'll try and repair it myself anyway and will always have it as a spare, but hopefully i'll never need it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    http://www.guntrader.co.uk/EquipmentForSale/detail.php?EquipmentID=110606211005175

    Nasty incident , it may be worth ringing around dealers and seeing if they have a stock sitting on a shelf , i bought a 682 stock off a dealer before for very small money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Croppy Boy


    You could get in touch with Pat Sludds in Enniscorthy, he'll make you up a stock for around €350. It would be custom made to fit you i.e. length, cast off and drop.
    http://www.gunstocks.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭beretta686s


    I have a spare 686 stock 100 quid if ur intrested


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭FISMA


    goss101 wrote: »
    was out on the first for a duck, got a nice mallard and missed another one, unfortunately on the way back to car i twisted my ankle on a rock and dropped my brand new beretta 686 white onyx, it only fell about 1 foot to the ground and the stock snappped in two just above the trigger, was disgusted, does anyone know if my insurance with my gun club covers the breaking of a gun??

    cheers

    That sux, sorry to hear it. That's the problem I have in taking a fine firearm out in to the field. It pays sometimes to have a beater shotty.

    I would repair the stock, maybe some dowels and glue? Post some images and we'll see.

    I don't know if complaining to Beretta will help. However, I have done worse with much less damage. A drop from one foot cracks the wood in half? Seems like the wood is a bit brittle.

    Again, I would repair the stock and the fix will be part of the history of the gun. Like an old floor, your stock will have character.

    Also, it's just like that first scratch/dent on your new car. After that, who cares!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭goss101


    to beretta686: it's gone off to get a new stock anyway but thanks for the offer.

    to fisma: i have two old beater guns, a valmet u/o and baikel s/s but whats the point having a good gun if it just stays in the safe! i was very surprised to see such damage from such a short fall and i was with two others who seen me fall over and they couldn't believe the state of the gun either, maybe i should send a letter to beretta, it couldn't hurt anyway, the wood does seem quite hard and brittle, not sure what type it is. anyway at least no one was hurt thats the main thing, i'll try and get some pics up when i get the gun back as i'll try to fix the stock as a spare


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭goss101


    just an update, and a few pics of the stock, i was talking to pat sludds and he said the only thing as far as a repair goes for the stock is to "put it on the fire"!!! well i guess he knows best. i got the gun fitted with a new stock and fore end for a beretta 687, which i have to say is a nice bit of wood and has a matt finish opposed to the gloss that was on the one i broke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    goss101 wrote: »
    maybe i should send a letter to beretta

    You should kick up a stink and a half about it, especially since the gun was new. I know they're not made for dropping but still, you might get something out of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭landkeeper


    any gun especially one with a stock bolt through the grip will break if you drop it on the stock the fibres of the wood ane short there if you look it broke with the grain
    still have a rattle at beretta you might get something out of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭deerhunter1


    goss101 wrote: »
    just an update, and a few pics of the stock, i was talking to pat sludds and he said the only thing as far as a repair goes for the stock is to "put it on the fire"!!! well i guess he knows best. i got the gun fitted with a new stock and fore end for a beretta 687, which i have to say is a nice bit of wood and has a matt finish opposed to the gloss that was on the one i broke.

    Thats looks a very bad break for such a small drop, I would get onto the importers especially since its new (Ardee Sports) I think? may have been a fault in the wood grain, They should take a=some bit of a knocking, give them a ring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    I'd be looking for a bit of goodwill from Beretta as well. Ok they're not designed to be dropped but a game gun should at least be able to resist falling from someone's hands without such damage being done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    goss101 wrote: »
    just an update, and a few pics of the stock, i was talking to pat sludds and he said the only thing as far as a repair goes for the stock is to "put it on the fire"!!! well i guess he knows best. i got the gun fitted with a new stock and fore end for a beretta 687, which i have to say is a nice bit of wood and has a matt finish opposed to the gloss that was on the one i broke.


    That is a nasty piece of timber through the wrist, (photos are not clear but that grain pattern is not suitable for a field gun) looks like it broke into 3 or more pieces.
    Take the advice of JohnGalway Stevie and others and approach Beretta (agent -dealer). One never knows.


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