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9/11 First Responders Not Invited To 10th Anniversary Ceremony At Ground Zero

  • 01-09-2011 2:25pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭


    – First responders will not be invited to this year’s 9/11 ceremony at Ground Zero. That’s the word from city officials who say there isn’t enough room for the tens of thousands of firefighters, police and other rescue workers.





    According to a report by the Daily News, security issues and making sure that all of the victims’ families will be able to participate in the 10th anniversary of 9/11, contributed to first responders not being invited to the ceremony.

    Phil, a construction worker at Ground Zero, says the city needs to figure out a way to have first responders at this anniversary.

    “I think that they should be allowed to go because too many of their brothers and sisters lost their lives and they should be the first ones that are included,” he said. “They should make it happen. I’m sure there are going to be a lot of people here who shouldn’t be here.”


    First responders will be given a separate ceremony at a later date.

    Both President Barack Obama and former president George W. Bush will be at this year’s ceremony as well as former mayor Rudy Giuliani and other dignitaries, meaning extra security will be on hand.

    In addition, only a limited number of lawmakers from the Tri-state area will be allowed to attend.

    On Friday, House Speaker Rep. John Boehner said the government would be paying for representatives from New York, New Jersey and Connecticut to attend the ceremony.

    An estimated 91,000 police, firefighters and other first responders helped with the search and rescue efforts in the wake of the September 11th attacks.



    shocking i think,bush and his cronies get to be there but not the brave ones who tried to help.


    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/08/13/report-911-first-responders-not-invited-to-10th-anniversary-ceremony-at-ground-zero/


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle


    I read the other day that Bush went to bed at 10 p.m. on 9/11. All that flying around in Air Force One must have tired him out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    to be fair it does make a certain kind of sense... how could hey securly commemorate the event with so many people at it...?

    ( unless they changed it to rally style event)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭DjFlin


    Wattle wrote: »
    I read the other day that Bush went to bed at 10 p.m. on 9/11.

    Whats your point?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Wattle wrote: »
    I read the other day that Bush went to bed at 10 p.m. on 9/11. All that flying around in Air Force One must have tired him out.
    Probably an urban myth, really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    barone wrote: »

    On Friday, House Speaker Rep. John Boehner said the government would be paying for representatives from New York, New Jersey and Connecticut to attend the ceremony.

    He must lead a hard life


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    Probably an urban myth, really.

    And even if it is true, it made sense for him to get his sleep early.

    America has one of the best staffed and stocked major emergency response structures in the world. It doesn't need the president to run that. His decisions were gonna take place the following week, and he knew that. It was hardly a 'fiddling while rome burns' scenario. He (and various previous governments) have made sure that america lead the way in major disaster, mass casualty scenarios.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭barone


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    to be fair it does make a certain kind of sense... how could hey securly commemorate the event with so many people at it...?

    ( unless they changed it to rally style event)

    america does everything big,it would not be a problem id imagine,seems like a slap in the face to me, let the politicians go but ye firemen and police stay away..

    yuk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    He must lead a hard life

    Its pronounced bayner


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Its pronounced bayner

    I wonder how many thousand times he said that through school.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    They can stay home and watch the rugby sure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    I'm not sure how they can be expected to fit 90k+ people in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    shur just get them to do the security, im sure they'd be happy to do it for free for a chance to be there, solves two problems, everyones happy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,078 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    You would need some funtion room to fit 90K people into it would prob need to put a gazeebo outside aswell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    discus wrote: »
    And even if it is true, it made sense for him to get his sleep early.

    America has one of the best staffed and stocked major emergency response structures in the world. It doesn't need the president to run that. His decisions were gonna take place the following week, and he knew that. It was hardly a 'fiddling while rome burns' scenario. He (and various previous governments) have made sure that america lead the way in major disaster, mass casualty scenarios.

    Wonder what time he went to bed at when New Orleans descended into anarchy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle


    DjFlin wrote: »
    Whats your point?

    Just that if true it sounds like he was a little disengaged for a Commander In Chief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭rednik


    To be fair to bush, cheney did tuck him into bed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Tim the Enchanter


    Well they weren't invited 10 years ago either, but they still showed up!!!!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Wattle wrote: »
    Just that if true it sounds like he was a little disengaged for a Commander In Chief.

    It's a hard lesson to learn, and I've seen officers get burned out over it, but if there's no decisions that need making at that moment and time, you need to trust your subordinates to do their job and and stay rested so that when you do need to be awake to make decisions, you're in a fit condition to do so.

    That's why commanders leave wake-up criteria. If the issue is important enough that it requires his attention, the staff will wake him. If not, then staying awake for the sake of staying awake is stupid and destructive to yourself, and to the morale of the staff who get the impression that the boss doesn't trust them and feels to need to hover over their shoulder.

    10pm Eastern would have been, what, 12 hours after the event? How long should he have stayed up? 14? 18? 24? Three days later? Never know when he might need to make a decision...

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭DjFlin


    Wattle wrote: »
    Just that if true it sounds like he was a little disengaged for a Commander In Chief.

    Maybe. Whenever I lose someone I go to bed pretty early. Dont have to deal with grief when your sleeping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Am I the only one who cannot believe ten years have passed since 9/11 !?

    I remember it like it was yesterday, the images will stay with me for the rest of my life.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Wattle wrote: »
    I read the other day that Bush went to bed at 10 p.m. on 9/11. All that flying around in Air Force One must have tired him out.

    The world might have been a safer place if he had stayed in bed a lot more and let others (better?) run in his stead!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Am I the only one who cannot believe ten years have passed since 9/11 !?

    I remember it like it was yesterday, the images will stay with me for the rest of my life.
    I can't.

    MAinly because I was in school then and I'm still in school now :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    My Aunt witnessed the attack on Pentagon.

    Her friend had footage on tape, handed it over to Police, never got it back.

    Was weird time that, so much panic...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    My Aunt witnessed the attack on Pentagon.

    Her friend had footage on tape, handed it over to Police, never got it back.

    Was weird time that, so much panic...
    Cue the conspiracy in 3....2.....1....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Overheal wrote: »
    Cue the conspiracy in 3....2.....1....

    :pac::pac::pac:

    Ah sure thats all been gone through too much now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Am I the only one who cannot believe ten years have passed since 9/11 !?

    I remember it like it was yesterday, the images will stay with me for the rest of my life.

    For some reason I feel like it's been longer. I think it's because the subsequent wars that were launched since the bloody thing happened have been going on for what feels like forever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    It's a hard lesson to learn, and I've seen officers get burned out over it, but if there's no decisions that need making at that moment and time, you need to trust your subordinates to do their job and and stay rested so that when you do need to be awake to make decisions, you're in a fit condition to do so.

    That's why commanders leave wake-up criteria. If the issue is important enough that it requires his attention, the staff will wake him. If not, then staying awake for the sake of staying awake is stupid and destructive to yourself, and to the morale of the staff who get the impression that the boss doesn't trust them and feels to need to hover over their shoulder.

    10pm Eastern would have been, what, 12 hours after the event? How long should he have stayed up? 14? 18? 24? Three days later? Never know when he might need to make a decision...

    NTM

    He shoulda hit the hay after 14 hrs and 45 mins and got in another 15 minutes reading the pet goat book before lights out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Sickend. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Wattle wrote: »
    I read the other day that Bush went to bed at 10 p.m. on 9/11.

    Was that idiot ever awake during his presidency?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Wattle wrote: »
    I read the other day that Bush went to bed at 10 p.m. on 9/11. All that flying around in Air Force One must have tired him out.
    Probably an urban myth, really.

    Nah, it's true. Program on ITV tonight, his wife said they went to bed at 10pm, I lol'ed. Old people shouldn't allowed be president.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    i got invited...

    well...


    i jihad ya goin their for a minute :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Wattle wrote: »
    I read the other day that Bush went to bed at 10 p.m. on 9/11. All that flying around in Air Force One must have tired him out.

    I heard he was at school that day learning to read.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle


    He probably was awake all night trying to find Afghanistan on a map.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Nah, it's true. Program on ITV tonight, his wife said they went to bed at 10pm, I lol'ed. Old people shouldn't allowed be president.

    So as a nice, energetic, young guy, what time would -you- have gone to bed that day, and why?

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    So as a nice, energetic, young guy, what time would -you- have gone to bed that day, and why?

    NTM

    He'd still be up. :)


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