Abortion as the ultimate liberal sacrament

Keaton

Many have long remarked that abortion is the Left's one and only sacrament.

Abby Johnson tells a story from her Planned Parenthood days that proves the point while being shocking and disgusting. A Doctor told a crying patient, upset over what she was about to do, " I will take on your sin."

About 3 months before I left Planned Parenthood, we had a young woman in the clinic who I had counseled before her abortion. She was very noticeably upset about having an abortion. I questioned her and encouraged her to go home and think about her decision. She was insistent…this abortion must happen today. This is what she wanted. She was just emotional, she said. She asked if I would be in the room with her to hold her hand during the procedure. I was happy to do that for people I counseled…especially those that were nervous or upset.

We got her in the room, I sat down beside her, got her blood pressure cuff on, and the sedation was given. But the sedation didn’t make much difference. She cried even harder. So hard she was shaking and her body was moving off the table. The doctor entered the room in the usual manner. He was about to sit down on his stool and realized she was very upset.

Then he did something that left me speechless. He walked over to her and stood next to my chair. He took her hand and began talking to her. “Why the tears?” he said. “I just feel really guilty about doing this,” she responded. He asked her why she felt guilty. She said, “Because I just know this is a sin.” He paused for a minute and looked at her…he was looking at her so carefully…so cautiously…I had never seen one of our doctors treat a patient like this before. He smiled gently at her and said, “No. It is not your sin. It is mine. I will take on your sin. I commit the sin. Not you.”

Now playing Jesus, the guy with the wire hanger.

Their one and only sacrament indeed.

Morbert

Contrived hysterical nonsense that can be immediately dismissed.

PDN

Morbert wrote: »

Contrived hysterical nonsense that can be immediately dismissed.

Agreed. But made even more annoying by introducing the American phobia of 'the Left' on an Irish internet forum.

Keylem

When America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold!

Doctors are meant to be healers, not killers, and certainly not meant to play God!

"Doctors and other health-care workers swear by the Hippocratic Oath before practicing medicine. The classical version of the oath reads in part: "I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly, I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness, I will guard my life and my art." A more modern version, written by Louis Lasagna in 1964, addresses the issue of dealing with human lives. "Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty and above all, I must not play at God."

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Science-Religion/2004/06/Supporting-Doctors-With-Ethical-Objections.aspx

PDN

Keylem wrote: »

"Doctors and other health-care workers swear by the Hippocratic Oath before practicing medicine.

Not in Ireland.

Keaton

Keylem wrote: »

When America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold!

Doctors are meant to be healers, not killers, and certainly not meant to play God!

"Doctors and other health-care workers swear by the Hippocratic Oath before practicing medicine. The classical version of the oath reads in part: "I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly, I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness, I will guard my life and my art." A more modern version, written by Louis Lasagna in 1964, addresses the issue of dealing with human lives. "Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty and above all, I must not play at God."

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Science-Religion/2004/06/Supporting-Doctors-With-Ethical-Objections.aspx

That modern version potentially paves the way for abortion as 'an awesome responsibility.' It's certainly ambiguous.

Genghiz Cohen

Keylem wrote: »

and certainly not meant to play God!

I'll let them know they should unplug all those life support machines so.

Keylem

PDN wrote: »

Not in Ireland.

I was merely writing in general, and was not singling out Ireland! Abortion is a global issue!

Keylem

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

I'll let them know they should unplug all those life support machines so.

Fair play to ya!!!

alex73

Happened to come across this thread on aborting Down Syndrome babies.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74121471#post74121471

I got angry at the how we can Choose the kill a child because they have a disability.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=74121471&postcount=3

I got an infraction:-

Reason: Back Seat Modding

---

Advocating killing children is not acceptable on this forum.


So it seems Boards.ie does have standards. They accept Killing Children is wrong.

PDN

alex73 wrote: »

I got an infraction:-

You'll get another one if you ever discuss moderation in another forum here again.

Monty.

Keaton wrote: »

Many have long remarked that abortion is the Left's one and only sacrament.

What's this ? USA style lies about the left ?

Firstly, regardless of religion, many people on the left are very anti abortion.

Secondly, many Christians are socialists, in fact Jesus could be claimed as the first true socialist.

PatricaMcKay2

Keaton wrote: »

Many have long remarked that abortion is the Left's one and only sacrament.

Abby Johnson tells a story from her Planned Parenthood days that proves .

What a stupid sentence. The "Left" is not a religion and now more has sacraments than the "Right". George Galloway the most famous "Old Left" figure on these islands at the moment is anti-abortion for instance also.

MrTsSnickers

PDN wrote: »

Not in Ireland.

Well they take the oath, but it's not legally binding. It's more ceremonial these days.