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A question for people of various age groups

  • 01-09-2011 11:35am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭


    I often noticed, as a small child, that my spelling and grammar were close to perfect. A misplaced comma, or a forgotten full-stop, or the use of apostrophes with wild abandon were things you would never find on my homework.

    Now however, as I grow older, I've noticed my attention to grammar and spelling are slipping. Is this, like crankiness and senile incontinence, one of the inevitabilities of growing older?

    I often find that old people, contrary to what you might expect, have terrible spelling, and am just wondering whether this is something people have noticed in themselves as they age? It's not so much that you might forget the rules, but that you might simply forget to apply them. Maybe it's something to do with losing your sharpness?
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Two words: keep reading. (Wait, depends on what you're reading!)

    Also this should give you a laugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    Me fail English?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Me spelling n gramar iz bang on. and im 96. De granson got me on twitter, like so i is reedin lotz.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    Thats unpossible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭FetchTheGin


    100% OP.

    I need to get back to reading more.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Me spelling n gramar iz bang on. and im 96. De granson got me on twitter, like so i is reedin lotz.

    That's one thing that really annoys me, older people using "txt spk". My own mother has started to abbreviate her texts, half the bloody time I have no idea what she's trying to say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭FetchTheGin


    TheZohan wrote: »
    That's one thing that really annoys me, older people using "txt spk". My own mother has started to abbreviate her texts, half the bloody time I have no idea what she's trying to say.

    U r adptd lolz.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    U r adptd lolz.

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    My spelling and grammar are OK, my handwriting however has become totally unreadable...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭blaze1


    I had to handwrite an application form yesterday...
    It took me 3 attempts and my hand was fuuuuucking killing me after it..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    U r adptd lolz.

    Adapted? I blame evolution and nature over nurture. Damn opposable thumbs. <picks up cup of coffee>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭FetchTheGin


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Adapted? I blame evolution and nature over nurture. Damn opposable thumbs. <picks up cup of coffee>

    Yes, makes sense that it probably said adapted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    I learned myself to spoke!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    later10 wrote: »
    I often noticed, as a small child, that my spelling and grammar were close to perfect. A misplaced comma, or a forgotten full-stop, or the use of apostrophes with wild abandon were things you would never find on my homework.

    Now however, as I grow older, I've noticed my attention to grammar and spelling are slipping. Is this, like crankiness and senile incontinence, one of the inevitabilities of growing older?

    I often find that old people, contrary to what you might expect, have terrible spelling, and am just wondering whether this is something people have noticed in themselves as they age? It's not so much that you might forget the rules, but that you might simply forget to apply them. Maybe it's something to do with losing your sharpness?

    I dare you to come over here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1480
    and say that! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Yes, makes sense that it probably said adapted.

    Your sarcasm detector needs new batteries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    chucken1 wrote: »
    I dare you to come over here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1480
    and say that! :p
    I don't wanna.


    They smell like nursing home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    I'm the opposite; wasn't too hot with grammar and punctuation when in school (was always a good speller though)...in recent years, with a lot more reading done and a lot more stuff written or typed, I find I'm much better at both...mind you the simian scrawl that passes for my handwriting is getting worse as the years go by...I think I rebelled against the system that tried to teach me joined-up script in primary school and bastardised it with misplaced small capitals in the middle of words and tbh I think a 6 yr old could better me in terms of legibility.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    later10 wrote: »
    I don't wanna.


    They smell like nursing home.


    :eek: You're not too old to be put over my knee :mad:,whippersnapper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    TheZohan wrote: »
    That's one thing that really annoys me, older people using "txt spk". My own mother has started to abbreviate her texts, half the bloody time I have no idea what she's trying to say.

    Me too. My dad was away recently and just dropped him a text about something the evening he left.

    He replied saying he got there fine "TG".

    I couldn't figure out what the hell he was talking about. I thought of it at the weekend and asked him what it meant ..... it was Thank God :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭LeeHoffmann


    Have you learned any foreign languages since then OP? I've noticed I sometimes have problems with spelling but my spelling was perfect before I learned German.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Have you learned any foreign languages since then OP? I've noticed I sometimes have problems with spelling but my spelling was perfect before I learned German.
    Interesting, I started Italian lessons recently and am giving French lessons in return.

    Maybe the langauge part of my wee brain is packing things to the back of the filing cabinet because of all this new information... I hadn't thought about it but seems credible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    My spelling and grammar are OK, my handwriting however has become totally unreadable...

    I'm the same, anything i write by hand looks like it was done by an epileptic chicken on speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,304 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    I wonder do native speakers of languages other than English have their own varieties of txtspk ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 427 ✭✭scotty_irish


    bonzodog2 wrote: »
    I wonder do native speakers of languages other than English have their own varieties of txtspk ?

    french are terrible for it. it's already hard enough for me to understand french without deciphering the txtspk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    bonzodog2 wrote: »
    I wonder do native speakers of languages other than English have their own varieties of txtspk ?
    Yes, they do, the French txt speak tends to include more number/letter combinations. It's very confusing, even for them.

    b1sr = bien sur
    edr = lol,
    etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    My thoughts race ahead of my typing speed so I tend to leave out entire words from paragrahps I write!

    I can do it right if I really want to though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Is the sudden explosion in grammar thread wankery to do with the recession or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    The same thing's happened to me. I'd still very rarely write out a word and think it's ok when it's actually wrong though. But I'll often find myself having to stop and think of how to spell a word I used to be able to spell automatically. Or else I'll misspell it but notice straight away as it looks wrong.

    My grammar's fine, though when I'm typing I'll occasionally find myself leaving out an apostrophe or typing "your" instead of "you're" or "there" instead of "they're" or "their," but on the rare occasions I do that I'll always spot the mistake and correct it when I'm reviewing it.

    It worries me though, that I might get worse, as I've always been particularly proud of my grammar and spelling :(.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,226 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    I have no problem with written communications, but I lately find that I frequently can't find the word I'm looking for while talking to someone, and I just trail off...

    Going grey, deteriorating eyesight and wobbly handwriting I can deal with, but if I start to go properly senile then I'm ending it, if I can just hold this gun steady.

    Bang!

    Damn, missed again. ****, another hole in the ceiling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    Have a degree in English and was quite good with grammar, spelling etc.

    Worrying thing was that when I was in 4th year, I used to mentor a few 1st years. They would often ask me to have a look at essays before submitting them for marking. The standard was often atrocious!

    One essay used txtspk more times than I could count, both in the prose and narrative including the likes of "lol", "omg" etc.

    There were full sentences with no vowels! No vowels at all I tell's you!!! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    Bad grammar is everyones enemy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    People need to learn to talk proper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    'lesser being's.
    Ah yes, definitely lesser being's. I often think all those boy's and girl's are lesser being's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Maybe people should be sent to a 'Skool for People Who Cant Do Grammer Good'.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭LeeHoffmann


    Interesting, I started Italian lessons recently and am giving French lessons in return.

    Maybe the langauge part of my wee brain is packing things to the back of the filing cabinet because of all this new information... I hadn't thought about it but seems credible
    I'd think different languages have different spelling patterns/rules (obviously enough) and so, when you learn a new language, the different spelling patterns/rules of these different languages can get mixed together in your brain and hence the mistakes. At least that's what I've noticed about my own mistakes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    TheZohan wrote: »
    That's one thing that really annoys me, older people using "txt spk". My own mother has started to abbreviate her texts, half the bloody time I have no idea what she's trying to say.

    yeah its hard to make out what she says in fairness, luckily though the pictures she sends me give a fair idea what she wants :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    IrishZeus wrote: »
    Have a degree in English and was quite good with grammar, spelling etc.

    Is grammar taught in English degrees these days?


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