Nippy diesel cars?

pudzey101

*Posting this for a friend*

would like to know of a quick reasonable priced diesel car with over 110bhp resp:)
(eg gttdi golf,130bhp bora)

any suggestions?

thanks

david,

barura

Maybe I'm crazy, but what's all this lark about a car needing to be quick? I don't get the diesel + quick malarky. Why not just get a decent 1.8 or 2 litre car that doesn't have the diesel "premium" for what is a more powerful and cheaper car comparably?

in before Octavia.

Edit 2: on topic though: http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2350932

bazz26

BMW 320d either 136bhp or 150bhp.

Anything with the Fiat M-Jet 1.9 150bhp engine is lively enough.

2.0 TDCi 130bhp Ford Mondeo.

Kev_ps3

gt tdi is supposed to be nippy

Marcusm

bazz26 wrote: »

BMW 320d either 136bhp or 150bhp.

Anything with the Fiat M-Jet 1.9 150bhp engine is lively enough.

2.0 TDCi 130bhp Ford Mondeo.

That Fiat engine is also in Alfa (obviously) but also Opel (Vectra, Signum, etc refereed to as 16v CDTI) and Saab (think it's TTID). Torque makes take off from lights quite competitive but I found mid range acceleration to be no more than average.

si_guru

Why not get the fastest diesel production car (at the time).

Seat Ibiza Cupra!

Vicxas

A GTTdi blasted past me on the M1 this morning, fairly nippy looking

Atomic Pineapple

Vicxas wrote: »

A GTTdi blasted past me on the M1 this morning, fairly nippy looking

You shouldn't be walking on motorways!!

Vicxas

I cant help it, i love danger :P

fletch

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2204300.htm

cadaliac

Mini cooper D - qiuck bloody yokes, small though.

ugglasdav

Sitec wrote: »

Ya them Gt TDI's would wipe any 130TDI Golf of the road!

i tought that the gt tdi was just a normal golf with any tdi engine and some gti features on it, is there actualy a model of golf called a GT TDI

166man

Renault Clio DCI with the 105bhp engine..

IrishZeus

Really need a price range to work with here....

tossy

Define nippy? As by my definition of nippy no one has mention a nippy diesel car yet in this thread.

si_guru

tosser wrote: »

Define nippy? As by my definition of nippy no one has mention a nippy diesel car yet in this thread.

Ibiza Cupra

0-60mph 7.6s
Max Speed 136mph

According to What Car "..brutal accerlation in high gears.."

Golf Gti Nm 280
Cupra Nm 330

alastair

Skoda Fabia VRS?

tossy

I know all about the cupra tdi was going to buy one a few years ago. I know 0-60 times aren't the be all but 7.6 secs isn't nippy.

si_guru

alastair wrote: »

Skoda Fabia VRS?

I had one.. after an Octavia (1.8) vRS. The Fabia has much more brutal "round town - overtaking" performance, it only lacked the (illegal speeds) top end of course. My only regret was not getting a remap - something I only tried for the first time on the next car I had (Vectra Sri CDTi).

..oh and you can get 60+mpg

pajo1981

si_guru wrote: »

According to What Car "..brutal accerlation in high gears.."

Golf Gti Nm 280
Cupra Nm 330

Apples and oranges comparison. The diesel will have longer gears.

pudzey101

maxed price = 6000euro:)

quick question, are them GTTDI's down on the logbook as that or just down as 1.9tdi golfs:) anyone know offhand?

sean1141

shouldnt be anyway because vw never made such a thing!! some of the 150bhp ones were made as 'gti tdi' by vw add were sold with a gti badge.

a seat leon fr would also be worth a look. 150bhp standard. usually a bit cheaper than a golf.

pudzey101

sean1141 wrote: »

shouldnt be anyway because vw never made such a thing!! some of the 150bhp ones were made as 'gti tdi' by vw add were sold with a gti badge.

a seat leon fr would also be worth a look. 150bhp standard. usually a bit cheaper than a golf.

thanks mate:) gttdi golfs do look the part though;)

sean1141

pudzey101 wrote: »

gttdi golfs do look the part though;)

yup they look the same as a 1.4 golf

x in the city

BMW 330 cd...

seriously thinking of getting one of them actually, not sure I can afford a 335d.!


and with leather...:rolleyes:

Pdfile

well, do you want responsive or ?? im sure an octivia with remap is ideal with its size/diesel engine ??

*awaits anti-skoda backlash*

savagecabbages

sean1141 wrote: »

yup they look the same as a 1.4 golf

Dont know about the GT TDI's whether or not they have the suspension + brakes from a petrol GTI... AFIK most were sold with the sports option (susp/brakes) + GTI interior making them fairly similar spec to a petrol GTI, but I dont know the specifics... People say they dont really exist, but surely if VW UK stuck badges on them and sold them from dealerships then technically they do exist??


There was def a diesel GTI made in 2001, but it only said GTI on the back, no mention of GT or diesel.... Only a few hundred made, only a few dozen brought into Ireland(guess).

coolbeans

tossy wrote: »

I know all about the cupra tdi was going to buy one a few years ago. I know 0-60 times aren't the be all but 7.6 secs isn't nippy.

Ah it is in fairness. We're not talking about exotica here. 7.6 is nippy (meaningless stat though).

TheUsual

Older Audi A4 TDi. Had a rental once and was surprised.

Pretty quick for what they are, small enough space inside though.

sean1141

savagecabbages wrote: »

Dont know about the GT TDI's whether or not they have the suspension + brakes from a petrol GTI... AFIK most were sold with the sports option (susp/brakes) + GTI interior making them fairly similar spec to a petrol GTI, but I dont know the specifics... People say they dont really exist, but surely if VW UK stuck badges on them and sold them from dealerships then technically they do exist??

the 150 has the same suspencion as the petrol. all the 130 and 150 tdis have 288mm front disks. some of the petrols had these and some of the later ones had 312s (i think) all have 232mm rears

if you look on the data sticker that VW put on the car in the factory it wont say GT TDI. it will have 1.9 HL (highline) or CL (comfort line)

I would rather go with what vw say than some badge a dealer stuck on! sure they would put a r32 badge on it if you wanted:D

savagecabbages wrote: »

There was def a diesel GTI made in 2001, but it only said GTI on the back, no mention of GT or diesel.... Only a few hundred made, only a few dozen brought into Ireland(guess).

thats the 25th anniversary golf. most are registered in 02. differances from the standard golf include
18 inch bbs alloys, 256mm rear disks, 312mm front disks, red calipers lower suspencion. different front and rear bumper valances, side skirts, smaller mirrors, black headlights, recaro seats with gti on them, black roof cloth and pillars, sun voisers etc only avilable in red, black and silver

Sobanek

only avilable in red, black and silver

Weren't they available in yellow too?

//oh yeah sorry, it's the 20th anniversary that was

savagecabbages

Sobanek wrote: »

Weren't they available in yellow too?

//oh yeah sorry, it's the 20th anniversary that was

The US mk4 20th anniversary came in yellow, though I've never seen one...
as did the mk3 colour concept, but not the european 20th anniversary(mk3).


@sean1141 I assume you'd be insuring them as a highline/comfortline then too? i.e. cheaper??

sean1141

Ya I would insure them as what they are on the data sticker

Mr. Manager

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

gt tdi is supposed to be nippy

Vicxas wrote: »

A GTTdi blasted past me on the M1 this morning, fairly nippy looking

Sitec wrote: »

Ya them Gt TDI's would wipe any 130TDI Golf of the road!

pudzey101 wrote: »

maxed price = 6000euro:)

Problem solved

EPM

Is €6k for 2003 Golf not absolutely insane money?

Vicxas

Aye, considering i was looking at a 07 1.9tdi for €9750...

TestTransmission

EPM wrote: »

Is €6k for 2003 Golf not absolutely insane money?

Yes,yes it is

bazz26

Never could understand the fascination young lads have for these Golf GT TDi yokes.

Sobanek

bazz26 wrote: »

Never could understand the fascination young lads have for these Golf GT TDi yokes.

Because the TDIs are very decent cars.
The fascination is probably due to the GT on the back
I haven't seen much difference in the GT TDIs except rear lights and them being a bit higher specced than ordinary TDI.
My cousin drives the Mk2 Ibiza (2002-2008) with a 1.9 TDI with 131hp. 6 Speed Manual and I've to say that it does 160kph without any problems. Very fast. (Not as fast as the 2.8 V6 though :pac:)

fletch

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Problem solved

I'd much prefer this tbh

squod

No such thing as a '03 Golf GT TDi. 110 bhp 1.8 Focus van is nippy, so I'm told.

EPM

fletch wrote: »

I'd much prefer this tbh

+1