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What breed are these sheep?

  • 29-08-2011 3:36pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    Just wondered if you had any ideas on this.

    A friend "came by" these sheep - they were more or less thrown in with a larger group he was buying to seal a deal - in the west of Ireland.

    He was told they are Jacobs, but they don't look like Jacobs to me, and all of them are polled.

    Any ideas on what they are? I wondered if they might be Welsh Mountain. They are smallish, maybe Cheviot sized or a little bigger, but have quite good conformation, nice lambs. There's three ewes and their lambs, and they are all clearly the same breed, as are the lambs.

    Thanks in advance,

    LostCovey

    PS they were sheared since this photo was taken a couple of months ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Cran


    Have seen black welsh mountain sheep before, and these do look slightly like them but slightly bigger. Any of the lambs male, as Welsh black rams have horns.
    Would say more likely just suffolk cross carrying the black gene and all are related rather than a specific breed though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭LostCovey


    Cran wrote: »
    Have seen black welsh mountain sheep before, and these do look slightly like them but slightly bigger. Any of the lambs male, as Welsh black rams have horns.
    Would say more likely just suffolk cross carrying the black gene and all are related rather than a specific breed though...

    Thanks Cran, that was fast!!

    Yes there was one ram lamb and he was polled too. That's quite likely what they are so - they do look like Suffolks but smaller and small-headed, compared to what I would have expected.

    LC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭5live


    The angle on them is bad but i would have thought suffolk would be broader across the head than those, even half breds:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 scub


    how about a Swiss Black-Brown Mountain Sheep?

    http://www.bergschaf.com/

    They hardly rambled in from the neighbours though lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 caseih


    they are jacobs just their crossed with suffolk a couple a times,,, had a few here some years ago...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭LostCovey


    caseih wrote: »
    they are jacobs just their crossed with suffolk a couple a times,,, had a few here some years ago...

    That's possible.

    One of the lambs has a small splash of white near the top of its head, but I left that out as I thought it was a red herring. It is the only Jacobish feature aming the lot of them.

    Thanks very much for all the suggestions, I will pass them on.

    LC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Did they come from Gort or Kylebrack?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭LostCovey


    EGAR wrote: »
    Did they come from Gort or Kylebrack?

    Possibly, but via Partry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    http://www.nationalsheep.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=9&Itemid=41

    Have a look here. am on a slow connection so pics wont load for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭LostCovey


    EGAR wrote: »
    http://www.nationalsheep.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=9&Itemid=41

    Have a look here. am on a slow connection so pics wont load for me.

    Thanks EGAR, gosh they look very like those Welsh Mountain, don't they (apart from the bits of white on the face). I wonder what Suffolk x Welsh Mountain would look like?

    LC


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭fanadman1


    LostCovey wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Just wondered if you had any ideas on this.

    A friend "came by" these sheep - they were more or less thrown in with a larger group he was buying to seal a deal - in the west of Ireland.

    He was told they are Jacobs, but they don't look like Jacobs to me, and all of them are polled.

    Any ideas on what they are? I wondered if they might be Welsh Mountain. They are smallish, maybe Cheviot sized or a little bigger, but have quite good conformation, nice lambs. There's three ewes and their lambs, and they are all clearly the same breed, as are the lambs.

    Thanks in advance,

    LostCovey

    PS they were sheared since this photo was taken a couple of months ago.

    we keep those at home :L there just refered to as the black texel up her :L i accualy take pride in haveing them and allways hold onto my ewe lambs as replacements as they can be hard to find i've seen black ewe lambs going for upwards of 130 euro each :L mabey were just silly up here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭razor8


    caseih wrote: »
    they are jacobs just their crossed with suffolk a couple a times,,, had a few here some years ago...

    100% right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Syrmaticus


    They look more like a zwartble cross, narrower face and longer body.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 maryc.


    ye they look like zwarable cross off suffock


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Jaysus, zombie thread alert. Closed


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