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planning and construction drawings

  • 29-08-2011 3:15pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭


    Decision is due on planning this week. Presuming its passed I need to look at getting construction drawings done. I presume most people do this with their architect who did the planning drawings etc.

    I'm thinking of getting a timber frame house and hopefully to quite high efficiency specs. I don't feel that the architect has this experience of doing timber frame to do this.

    Has anyone any experience of getting someone else to do their construction drawings? Is getting the builder (timber frame company) to do them leaving yourself open to trouble is it?


    Help and comments please

    Mod, sorry I put this in BER thread by mistake, Can you move to const & planning

    edit: done ;)
    sydthebeat


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Has anyone any experience of getting someone else to do their construction drawings? Is getting the builder (timber frame company) to do them leaving yourself open to trouble is it?
    getting someone else to do the drawings fine, you may even get a recommendation from your architect. its not rocket science he should be able and prepared to design/ oversee construction of a timber frame.

    in reality the timber frame company may do a good set of drawings but that's probably only the top five guys in the country, many of whom can now build to passive standards. however, I would strongly recommend you have an architect to prepare drawings and spec or at the very least to ensure your builders drawings are correct. you should also be looking for your chosen arch to be administering some form of contract between you and the builder.

    best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭bold_defender


    Just found out planning refused! Other issues to worry about now.

    Thanks for the info though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Ah, that's a toughy......... :(

    As for the plans - all timber-mfg companies do their own CAD plans, for their own manufacture, but there's a lot more involved that the frame to consider.

    It comes down to whether you're using an architect, builder, or self-build etc, that will dictate how much you'll have to do.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭bold_defender


    BryanF

    Do you think that the big TF guys can do passive well or are the guys who are passive specialised are better suited?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    BryanF

    Do you think that the big TF guys can do passive well or are the guys who are passive specialised are better suited?
    well if it were me and even if the PH guys were a few quid more id go with them (if they've done such work before then in theory they will need less managing on site), because trying to achieve good air-tightness etc.. can be a learning curve, a good team will save you money during the build.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 penny123


    Hi,
    I have obtained full permission for house, but wish to apply for a slightly larger house so putting in another planning application. If I do, and if this was unsuccessfl can i then revert back to my original permission-basically is my grant for permission safe?:confused:

    not sure if have posted to right place if not can this be redirected please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,550 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    penny123 wrote: »
    Hi,
    I have obtained full permission for house, but wish to apply for a slightly larger house so putting in another planning application. If I do, and if this was unsuccessfl can i then revert back to my original permission-basically is my grant for permission safe?:confused:

    not sure if have posted to right place if not can this be redirected please
    Simple answer is yes. You can fall back on the original permission if the new application is unsuccessful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 penny123


    thanks for info- putting in new application quite soon, fingers crossed-if fails, have original any way
    penny :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭pamweld


    the second application you put in will be retention to change your current planning permissions, if refused you still have your current plans so no worries. you know you're untitled to a pre-planning meeting which may help put your ideas forward to the planners before officially submitting giving you a fair idea if your new plan will be granted or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,550 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    pamweld wrote: »
    the second application you put in will be retention to change your current planning permissions,
    No it wont :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    muffler wrote: »
    No it wont :)
    +1

    Retention planning only applies to works which are already carried out which differ from those granted planning permission, in this case there's no works carried out yet..


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