The Conspiracy Files: 9/11 Ten Years On

MRPRO03

On tonight on BBC Two at 21:00

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0148yz5

A decade after the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania, the Conspiracy Files looks at why some people still question what really happened on 9/11. Conspiracy theories continue to evolve and now question every aspect of the official account. Why, they ask, was the hole in the Pentagon so small? Why did the World Trade Centre buildings collapse as if being demolished by explosives? Why did one skyscraper fall when it was never hit by a plane? And why was the world's greatest military power so unprepared and so slow to react when warnings had been received?

The death of Osama Bin Laden might have been expected to put an end to the conspiracy theories, but the failure to release any pictures of Bin Laden's death and the hasty disposal of his body in the Arabian Sea, has instead given these theories a new burst of life.

Featuring key witnesses, CIA and FBI interviewees and leading sceptics, the programme analyses the evidence and looks at what makes conspiracy theories so persistent and so powerful.

Obelisk

My guess is that it will be another propaganda piece from the 'beeb'. Time will tell...

Boo Radley

This could open a can of worms and I'm not in any shape or forming willing to get into a huge perpetual debate addressing the points in the following link.

I thought it was a neat cluster of CTs and official retorts for those who may be interested.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14665953

Border-Rat

Pretty sure it won't mention;

a) Israeli Mossad agents dancing and celebrating mass murder across the river in New Jersey
b) The anamoly of Israeli Mossad having a camera erected to record the first impact
c) Israeli Mossad agents arrested on 9/11 failing lie detector tests
d) Israeli security firm cameras failing on the exact day/hour of 9/11 that would've captured crucial evidence
e) Israeli Special Forces members posing as dead flight passengers
f) The fact that Israeli Mossad tried to blow up the George Washington Bridge
g) Israeli Security winning the contract for WTC security and powering both buildings down the weekend prior to 9/11 to perform unprecedented 'maintenence'
h) The fact that, due to 9/11, no other Country benefitted from the invasion of Iraq like Israel, as they gained 40+ billion per annum in oil trans Mosul/Haifa pipeline - presumably why their Mossad danced for joy.

They will mention, however;

1) Holographs
2) Nuclear bombs
3) Planes being dump in oceans

ETC

SamHarris

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14665953

Just thought people here might be interested in it.

I fall very firmly into the "if there was a conspiracy, it was one of ineptitude" category, but what does everyone think of this? Is there anything that you felt wasnt sufficently gone over?

jimmynokia

SamHarris wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14665953

Just thought people here might be interested in it.

I fall very firmly into the "if there was a conspiracy, it was one of ineptitude" category, but what does everyone think of this? Is there anything that you felt wasnt sufficently gone over?

this has been covered on the discovery channel a long time ago its probably the same thing

Penn

Threads Merged.

Border-Rat

SamHarris wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14665953

Just thought people here might be interested in it.

I fall very firmly into the "if there was a conspiracy, it was one of ineptitude" category, but what does everyone think of this? Is there anything that you felt wasnt sufficently gone over?

By definition a 'Conspiracy' is deliberate, unless you're referring to a deliberate cover-up of ineptitude. The question of ineptitude can be ruled out, anyway. Carelessness does not rig a 110 story building to implode from the basement-up.

If it was ineptitude, then it was repeated on 7/7. What are the odds that on 9/11 a terror-drill simulating the act was taking place? However great they were, the same thing happened again on 7/7 - a terror 'drill' covering suicide bombings on the tube, on the same day.

Coincidentally 7/7 fell on three plateau's;

a) The eve of a major Shi'ite offensive in Southern Iraq by the Badr Brigade and Mahdi Army, one which ultimately disposed the British in 2007.
b) The beginning of the Taliban offensive, which got into gear proper in 2006. This is customary for an Afghan guerilla war, a few years are spent monitoring the enemy and preparing a plan of action
c) Nose-diving polls for New Labour and their wars in general

Above all, b) was most important. That can be listed now as a failure as well, the Taliban control almost 100 out of 105 sectors in Afghanistan.

Di0genes

Border-Rat wrote: »

Pretty sure it won't mention;

a) Israeli Mossad agents dancing and celebrating mass murder across the river in New Jersey

Evidence/

b) The anamoly of Israeli Mossad having a camera erected to record the first impact

Evidence?

c) Israeli Mossad agents arrested on 9/11 failing lie detector tests

Evidence?

d) Israel
i security firm cameras failing on the exact day/hour of 9/11 that would've captured crucial evidence

Where? and evidence?

e) Israeli Special Forces members posing as dead flight passengers

What? And of course, source?

f) The fact that Israeli Mossad tried to blow up the George Washington Bridge

What? And of course source.

g) Israeli Security winning the contract for WTC security and powering both buildings down the weekend prior to 9/11 to perform unprecedented 'maintenence'

Again. Source.

h) The fact that, due to 9/11, no other Country benefitted from the invasion of Iraq like Israel, as they gained 40+ billion per annum in oil trans Mosul/Haifa pipeline - presumably why their Mossad danced for joy.

They will mention, however;

1) Holographs
2) Nuclear bombs
3) Planes being dump in oceans

ETC

Just because they don't fixate on your clearly anti Semitic/ (oh sorry anti Israeli/Anti Zoinist) fixation.

Di0genes

Border-Rat wrote: »

If it was ineptitude, then it was repeated on 7/7. What are the odds that on 9/11 a terror-drill simulating the act was taking place? However great they were, the same thing happened again on 7/7 - a terror 'drill' covering suicide bombings on the tube, on the same day.

The drills were paper simulations that had no control over trains, emergency services, or any real world assets and were held for a private company, for private companies.

c) Nose-diving polls for New Labour and their wars in general

The 7th of July attack happened over a month after labour won a comfortable overwhelming victory in the may general election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2005

Geekness1234

This is what annoys me about conspiracy thoeries there is never any evidence supplied.If the person ranting about the isrealies can supply evidence then i will actually acknowledge your post.

Athlone_Bhoy

Di0genes wrote: »

The drills were paper simulations that had no control over trains, emergency services, or any real world assets and were held for a private company, for private companies.

The 7th of July attack happened over a month after labour won a comfortable overwhelming victory in the may general election.

A drill on the same train, same bus, same station come on seriously the odds of that are near enough impossible.

This is what annoys me about conspiracy thoeries there is never any evidence supplied.If the person ranting about the isrealies can supply evidence then i will actually acknowledge your post.

Didn't the FBI say that the five guys who were arrested on 9/11 had knowledge that the attacks were going to happening? I think FOX even reported that.

Di0genes

Athlone_Bhoy wrote: »

A drill on the same train, same bus, same station come on seriously the odds of that are near enough impossible.

You're completely mistaken.

Peter Powers ran simulation about multiple attacks on underground stations. There were no buses period. The drills focused on attacks on stations. The terrorists attacked trains. The drills focused on Kings Cross due to the fact that the 1987 fire gives detailed information of how quickly kings cross can be evacuated in a fire.

The Drill had no authority over police. Over the underground. Over Buses. Over Emergency services. It was a theoretical paper exercise.

You are completely mistaken.

Didn't the FBI say that the five guys who were arrested on 9/11 had knowledge that the attacks were going to happening? I think FOX even reported that.

No they didn't and no FOX didn't it.

Border-Rat

Israeli Mossad knew that first plane would hit, they recorded it then laughed, mocked and hi-fived. Their behaviour was so outrageous, locals called the cops. The cops arrested them and found traces of explosives on the van, of course the sniffer dogs who smelled it were wearing tinfoil hats? Anti-semites perhaps?

The Israelis knew it was about to happen;

The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34250,00.html

"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park."

The Record, N.J News, 12/09/01

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery

- Ha'aretz Newspaper, 17/09/01

"They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness." - Witness

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1

Happy about what? What type of vermin would be happy over the murder of 3,000? Wait, we're all mistaken and the witness was an hysterical anti-semite. Now lock her up!

[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage.

- Associated Press, Print Edition, 17/09/01

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact

- The Record, N.J News - 12/09/01

Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot.

Yediot America (Hebrew), 02/11/01

That many, huh? Why so happy?



Now, this is just on portion of Israeli filth being exposed - the claim that they celebrated and recorded the impacts. I could provide more, but I can't be bothered. And I could go on about other instances and offer proof as I have already proven I can back up a claim.

Instances such as one Daniel Lewin, former Israeli Special forces and alleged passenger victim being curiously in good health years after the Mossad Attacks. Why for example was his obituary prepared before the day (The 11th?) was even over? Or Israeli Mossad agent Michael Goff providing a backdoor to NORAD computers to the Israeli Army.

Or the Israeli Security firm that won the contract for the WTC, then rigged the two buildings from head-to-toe with military-grade explosives. Or Urban Moving Systems, the moving company (A front) used by Israeli Mossad in New York. Their head man, Dominik Suter, fled New York to Israel days after 9/11, in such a hurry he left hot coffee on his desk and didn't pack a single bag. The same moving company used by the terrorists filming the event. The same moving company that left a van on the George Washington Bridge packed with explosives - lets not talk about that, that would be an anti-semitic conspiracy theory!

Or the Israeli security firm in charge of airport camera's that mysteriously had cameras fail. Just as they did on 7/7. All of this can be backed up by numerous sources. All of this and more.

But, no. It was really 19 Arab drunkards. Arab drunkards who could master a jetliner and pull off manouevres better than the best pilots in Europe. They then hit skyscrapers at several hundred miles an hour at the top, which then imploded from the bottom up.

And then, in a rage, Goyim marched into Iraq. And after he'd marched into Iraq, the fresh-water logistical concerns Israel had were solved, they had Iraqi water. And they had the added bonus of stealing 45 billion per annum out of Mosul in oil, piped straight to Haifa. US Marine Corps died by the hundreds protecting it. Of course, that was coincidental to the real reason - Dey Hate our Freedumbz.

Border-Rat

I'll tell you one thing, former head of US War College Alan Sabrosky is right - if the American's ever find this out, they'll nuke Israel. They'll do it. You just don't have the humiliation of 9/11, you have the humiliation of Afghanistan, bankruptcy and probably over 10,000 US troops dead, the total number of casualties is grossly under-reported.

Its outright humiliation, rape.

Di0genes

Border-Rat wrote: »

Israeli Mossad knew that first plane would hit, they recorded it then laughed, mocked and hi-fived. Their behaviour was so outrageous, locals called the

One has to wonder simply this.

Why would highly trained specialised secret agents do this?

On the day of the attack it was reported that a car bomb went off in the capital of the US, should we believe that as well?

Now, this is just on portion of Israeli filth being exposed - the claim that they celebrated and recorded the impacts. I could provide more, but I can't be bothered.

Quelle Surprise.

Instances such as one Daniel Lewin, former Israeli Special forces and alleged passenger victim being curiously in good health years after the Mossad Attacks. Why for example was his obituary prepared before the day (The 11th?) was even over? Or Israeli Mossad agent Michael Goff providing a backdoor to NORAD computers to the Israeli Army.

Sources please...

Or the Israeli Security firm that won the contract for the WTC, then rigged the two buildings from head-to-toe with military-grade explosives.

Source.

Or Urban Moving Systems, the moving company (A front) used by Israeli Mossad in New York. Their head man, Dominik Suter, fled New York to Israel days after 9/11, in such a hurry he left hot coffee on his desk and didn't pack a single bag. The same moving company used by the terrorists filming the event. The same moving company that left a van on the George Washington Bridge packed with explosives - lets not talk about that, that would be an anti-semitic conspiracy theory!

Source.

But, no. It was really 19 Arab drunkards. Arab drunkards who could master a jetliner and pull off manouevres better than the best pilots in Europe. They then hit skyscrapers at several hundred miles an hour at the top, which then imploded from the bottom up.

Except they didn't

And then, in a rage, Goyim marched into Iraq. And after he'd marched into Iraq, the fresh-water logistical concerns Israel had were solved, they had Iraqi water.

Whut?

if the American's ever find this out, they'll nuke Israel.

If Americans ever found out about this? Apparently you broke this whole case wide open via the internet.....

Plug

Out of the guys who said this was a conspiracy im sure they are getting a nice little income from their websites etc.