Cascarino controversy over holocaust comment.

28-08-2011 7:30pm #1

"Having a holocaust" - Never heard that saying before...

A football pundit has sparked outrage after he described a player as having a "holocaust" of a game.
Tony Cascarino made the inflammatory comment on Sky Sports News during a match between Manchester United and Arsenal which saw the north London team suffer a crushing 8-2 defeat.
Discussing defender Armand Traore's performance on the pitch, Cascarino said: "Poor Traore at right back is having a holocaust because he's finding himself against (United winger) Nani, who's literally running him from everywhere and (Arsenal midfielder Andrey) Arshavin's just not tracking his runners."
Angry fans immediately hit out at his comments on micro-blogging site Twitter.
One user wrote: "Tony Cascarino should be sacked on the spot. He said an Arsenal defender was having a "holocaust". Apallingly ignorant."
Another shocked social networker added: "I CANT BELIEVE HE SAID THAT!" while one observed: "Looks like Tony Cascarino could be the next ex-pro on the persona non-gratis list after that on air comment..." Another micro-blogger branded the comment "horrendous", adding: "I hope Tony Cascarino is dealt with appropriately".
A clip of the incident, broadcast during the Old Trafford clash, quickly appeared on YouTube.
Sky Sports News said presenter Natalie Sawyer had apologised straightaway for Cascarino's remarks.
It said in a statement: "Tony Cascarino made his comments in the heat of the moment. An immediate apology on behalf of Tony and Sky Sports was made on air as soon as possible for any offence caused."

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/outrage-over-holocaust-182538233.html

Mars Bar · 28-08-2011 7:32pm

Having a holocaust doesn't even make sense!

mike65 · 28-08-2011 7:33pm

At least he didn't say he was raped.

alchemist33 · 28-08-2011 7:33pm

the word had a meaning before WWII. Sounds like people looking for controversy, again. And the day we look to "social networkers" to set our moral compasses by, is the day I head for the hills with the family and the shotgun.

Amirani · 28-08-2011 7:35pm

Storm in a teacup. He misused a phrase, hardly like he's gone and denied/tried to justify the thing. What the hell is with news sites quoting people on twitter? I don't care what some micro-blogger writes.

Diabhal Beag · 28-08-2011 7:36pm

Poor Tony is having a genocide

LeixlipRed · 28-08-2011 7:36pm

Total over-reaction. Press should focus on the fact Cascarino is a complete twat as opposed to ignorant slips of the tongue.

mikemac · 28-08-2011 7:38pm

Gas man that Cascarino, he needs to concentrate more

Maybe it's the fact that it's a North London club. Though Spurs would be better known for that demographic
If a North of England club had their player singled out I doubt this would be picked up on at all

deisedevil · 28-08-2011 7:39pm

hol·o·caust
/ˈhɒləˌkɔst, ˈhoʊlə-/ Show Spelled[hol-uh-kawst, hoh-luh-] Show IPA
noun
1.
a great or complete devastation or destruction, especially by fire.
2.
a sacrifice completely consumed by fire; burnt offering.
3.
( usually initial capital letter ) the systematic mass slaughter of European Jews in Nazi concentration camps during World War II (usually preceded by the ).
4.
any mass slaughter or reckless destruction of life.
Origin:
1200–50; Middle English < Late Latin holocaustum (Vulgate) < Greek holókauston (Septuagint), neuter of holókaustos burnt whole. See holo-, caustic

Yes, the word originated in 1200–50. Some people need to get a grip!

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 28-08-2011 7:40pm

mikemac wrote: »

Gas man that Cascarino, he needs to concentrate more

Maybe it's the fact that it's a North London club. Though Spurs would be better known for that demographic
If a North of England club had their player singled out I doubt this would be picked up on at all

:pac:

Zebra3 · 28-08-2011 7:41pm

rarnes1 wrote: »

"Having a holocaust" - Never heard that saying before...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/outrage-over-holocaust-182538233.html

Use myself when someone has had a bad game and know loads of people who do as well.

I'm sure the Armenian community will be up in arms about it.

28-08-2011 7:42pm

It's a storm in a teacup alright but it could be blown out of proportion.

I think if he said it on Irish tv it would probably be largely ignored.

Turtyturd · 28-08-2011 7:43pm

Good thing he didn't say Nani was having a stormer...east coast of America would be up in arms.

mikemac · 28-08-2011 7:45pm

Where does it stop?

"Until Shamrock Rovers recently, the famine endured and the Irish were starved of success in Europe"

Nobody would find that offensive.
Though the odd loon out there might

28-08-2011 7:48pm

mikemac wrote: »

Where does it stop?

"Until Shamrock Rovers recently, the famine endured and the Irish were starved of success in Europe"

Nobody would find that offensive.
Though the odd loon out there might

The Spuds might find that offensive

thegreengoblin · 28-08-2011 7:49pm

The worst part was that the lovely Natalie Sawyer was forced to apologise for him live on air.

michael999999 · 28-08-2011 7:50pm

mikemac wrote: »

Where does it stop?

"Until Shamrock Rovers recently, the famine endured and the Irish were starved of success in Europe"

Nobody would find that offensive.
Though the odd loon out there might

Im highly offended, post reported!

tony1kenobi · 28-08-2011 7:52pm

Cascarino says that the whole time.It's just that all the other times nobody was listening to him.And they were all correct.

Son Of A Vidic · 28-08-2011 8:10pm

Surely a word will or will not offend depending on the context of its use? Considering Cascarino used it to describe a horiffic performance, it's amazing it caused any offence. PC rubbish gone mad yet again.

Now if he said - " I'm going to have such a good time on the town tonight, I'll leave the place like a Holocaust." Now that undoubtedly could cause offence, it's all about the context.

Pinturicchio · 28-08-2011 8:11pm

Traore was actually playing at left back, not right back...

28-08-2011 8:14pm

Remember Souness..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYg3hJdq96I

jaykay74 · 28-08-2011 8:21pm

No fan of Cas as a pundit but this is a nothing story.

skregs · 28-08-2011 9:59pm

People are a bit precious to get upset over this

osnola ibax · 28-08-2011 10:23pm

Phrase doesnt make sense. Cas is the worlds greatest blagger, kind of admire him for it.

pickarooney · 28-08-2011 10:31pm

Nani really made a Shoah him.

murpho999 · 29-08-2011 1:35am

I know Cascarino is a bit stupid but to give him his jew he probably thought it would be a gas thing to say.

Yakult · 29-08-2011 3:32am

Meh, he's a douche anyway.

HalloweenJack · 29-08-2011 7:42am

FFS, I've never heard Ethiopians complain when a player goes on a goal drought.

stovelid · 29-08-2011 10:32am

This is so dumb that I'm almost tempted to deploy the ultimate mongo-ism of PC gone mad.

UpTheSlashers · 29-08-2011 10:37am

mikemac wrote: »

Gas man that Cascarino, he needs to concentrate more

Maybe it's the fact that it's a North London club. Though Spurs would be better known for that demographic
If a North of England club had their player singled out I doubt this would be picked up on at all

Subtle yet genius.

homerjay2005 · 29-08-2011 10:39am

jaysus, if the silly presenter didnt say a word, all would have been ignored. silly bint..

thing of nothing.

dan1895 · 29-08-2011 10:39am

stovelid wrote: »

This is so dumb that I'm almost tempted to deploy the ultimate mongo-ism of PC gone mad.

That's offensive to laptops and Macs

tayto lover · 29-08-2011 10:47am

Now if he had said "left-back is an Accident Black Spot" it might even have true.

MaceFace · 29-08-2011 11:17am

Cas is a fool because I bet it is not part of his day to day language.
I bet he wanted to use a big word to make himself sound intelligent but when he opened his gob the word holocaust came out.

29-08-2011 12:30pm

I like Cas myself tbh. The world is gone mad if people are offended. The word massacre is more commonly used to describe a hammering in sport and there has been alot of real massacres worldwide and in particular the US in recent times. Besides compared to what Okey Dokey Bill O'Herlihy said about the twin towers crumbling (referring to the German centre backs) a few years ago its tame by comparison

noodler · 29-08-2011 12:40pm

I usually agree with the majority here and say who cares?

At the same time though...having a holocaust? Who the hell says that? Its like he intentionally tried to provoke a reaction!

29-08-2011 12:44pm

I see he's describing the incident as his own personal 9/11

heh heh heh

UglyBolloxFace · 29-08-2011 2:01pm

baz2009 wrote: »

:pac:

Why did this post, a smiley face pointing out a pun, get more thanks than the actual post by MikeMac? That's the one thing I really hate about the Soccer forum.

mikemac wrote: »

Gas man that Cascarino, he needs to concentrate more

There were two brilliant puns in MikeMac's post, and it seems nobody picked up on the other one!

Dozen Wicked Words · 29-08-2011 2:01pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

jaysus, if the silly presenter didnt say a word, all would have been ignored. silly bint...

How very dare you, its NATALIE SAWYER!

Anyway, I think she might be of Jewish descent herself. Not basing it on anything other than Natalie has origins as a Jewish first name, she is half Eastern European, and dark haired. So basically a complete guess and there is every possibility I am talking out of an orifice that isn't my mouth.