maviv vs the rest, radial or crossed spokes on drive side

24conor

Does anyone know how come most manufacturers have crossed spokes on the drive side and radial on the left (e.g. time, easton etc) while mavic (kysrium(sp?) elite) is the opposite.
Which is best? who is right? or are they all just guessing?

Lumen

Crossing spokes spreads the load between spokes. The drive side takes more load. So crossery and drivesidery are correlated.

Diarmuid

Mavic has radial on the DS? Really? I doubt it. It's a big no-no in wheelbuilding.

ednwireland

Diarmuid wrote: »

Mavic has radial on the DS? Really? I doubt it. It's a big no-no in wheelbuilding.

you better ring then and tell them

http://www.mavic.com/en/product/wheels/road-triathlon/wheels/Ksyrium-Elite

http://www.mavic.com/en/product/wheels/road-triathlon/wheels/Ksyrium-SL

Diarmuid

I stand corrected.... Dunno the reason for doing this. The "traditional" rule is never radial on the rear wheel, I guess if one side is 2x cross you can do it....

cdaly_

Sheldon Brown has some thoughts on the subject. He mentions "Wrong-way Half Radial" which is what Mavic appear to be doing.

dquirke1

Zipp do the same thing on all their wheels, radial on the drive-side, cross on the NDS.
No idea why, but if two of the biggest wheel companies are doing it there must be some advantage to be had.

Diarmuid

dquirke1 wrote: »

No idea why, but if two of the biggest wheel companies are doing it there must be some advantage to be had.

Marketing and looks maybe?

Idleater

Diarmuid wrote: »

Marketing and looks maybe?

I'd go with that. I'd have thought that even minimal aero improvement would have the smoother (radial) side being the outer or non drive side with the cross inside.
My ksyriums are backwards and Extralites normal. Can't say I notice any stiffness or aero improvement or disimprovement with either system.

ednwireland

Diarmuid wrote: »

Marketing and looks maybe?

yep i think my sl's look cool