ACP Slammed by Dr Mark Dooley

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Professor of Philosophy accuses Irish Assoc. of Catholic Priests of ‘cynical opportunism’

BY DEACON NICK,ON JULY 28TH,2011

Dr Mark Dooley,professor of philosophy,Maynooth,and author of ‘Why be Catholic?’,has written a column for the Irish Daily Mail accusing the Irish Association of Catholic Priests of ‘cynical opportunism’to promote dissent in the Church and a break with Rome:

‘There is no moral courage in playing to the gallery or hopping aboard a populist bandwagon. Least of all is valour to be found in lampooning an easy target. At its best,moral courage means doing what it is right in spite of the clamouring crowd.

http://protectthepope.com/?p=3435

gimmebroadband

Are they excommunicated from the Catholic Church??

Keylem

ACP are just another bunch of heretics!

Manach

Withholding judgement myself on the ACP, I'd mention that the nationalist vs Vatican centers of allegience are nearly as old as Christianity itself. For instance during the French revolution, a significant percentage of the clergy (1/3?) switched their loyalty to a State church. Not all of these did so for venial or fearful reasons. Some honestly believed that serving the State helped their parishioners or that Rome was not relevant.

gimmebroadband

Ron Conte
Roman Catholic theologian

http://www.catholicplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=37735

"Essentially, this group called the Association of Catholic Priests (ACP) is heretical and schismatic. They express their rejection of Church teaching and Church authority with careful and veiled wording. But the meaning is clear:

"the primacy of the individual conscience" by which is meant that conscience supercedes the teaching of the Church on morality.

"the status and active participation of all the baptised."
"the task of establishing a Church where all believers will be treated as equal."
by which is meant that anyone can be ordained, and that the roles of ordained and non-ordained persons are much the same. This false equality also implies that the Bishops lack the authority to teach definitively.

"A redesigning of Ministry in the Church, in order to incorporate the gifts, wisdom and expertise of the entire faith community, male and female." by which is meant that women should be ordained priests and bishops.

"A re-evaluation of Catholic sexual teaching and practice that recognizes the profound mystery of human sexuality and the experience and wisdom of God’s people." by which is meant a rejection of definitive magisterial teaching on sexual ethics.

"Recognition that Church and State are separate and that while the Church must preach the message of the Gospel and try to live it authentically, the State has the task of enacting laws for all its citizens." which implies a rejection of the teaching of Unam Sanctam that the authority of the state is beneath the authority of the Church.

"Full acceptance that the Spirit speaks through all people, including those of faiths other than Christian and those of no religious faith, so that the breath of the Spirit will flow more freely." which implies a rejection of the teaching of the Church that the Catholic faith is above other Faiths."

Onesimus

I agree with everything Gimmebroadband except for the last part. The Spirit does use other people and not just people but those of no faith such as animals ( reference to God speaking through the Donkey in Deutoronomy ).

It doesnt imply though that their faith is any better than ours or that they have the complete truth or complete gift of the Holy Spirit that we receive at confirmation. The Holy Spirit can use people of Non-faiths to perform acts and speak words or elements of truth, for all truth arises from one source...The Holy Spirit.

PDN

Manach wrote: »

Withholding judgement myself on the ACP, I'd mention that the nationalist vs Vatican centers of allegience are nearly as old as Christianity itself. For instance during the French revolution, a significant percentage of the clergy (1/3?) switched their loyalty to a State church. Not all of these did so for venial or fearful reasons. Some honestly believed that serving the State helped their parishioners or that Rome was not relevant.

It's fascinating when stuff I remember from Church History textbooks starts to become a live issue again: Ultramontanism