Gun/hunting clubs in Munster?

CarlaAnkiah

Hi,

We moved to Ireland just over a year ago and we have just began the process of making our hobby of Taxidermy into a business. My husband needs to get a gun licence so he can hunt and shoot fox, rabbits, crows etc. We have permission to shoot over 60acres of land once he gets his licence. Are there any gun/hunting clubs in our area? Does he need to join one to get a licence?

Also at present we are taxidermying things found dead on the road and the occasional fox shot by friends, so if anyone picks up anything unusuall suitable for taxidermy please contact me as I would be happy to give you a bit of something for it.

kfod

Welcome Carla,
I think that your husband will not have to join a gun club if he has permission to shoot on 60 acres. He will need letters from the landowners saying he can shoot their land.

The application form is here:
http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/fca1%20%28english%29.pdf

the relevant section is 5.2

the section on firearms licencing on this forum is very helpful also:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/announcement.php?f=466

Grizzly 45

Er,sorry to but in here.But where exactly is there an acerage limit set down in the firearms acts for either rifle or shotgun??????

deeksofdoom

CarlaAnkiah wrote: »

Hi,

We moved to Ireland just over a year ago and we have just began the process of making our hobby of Taxidermy into a business. My husband needs to get a gun licence so he can hunt and shoot fox, rabbits, crows etc. We have permission to shoot over 60acres of land once he gets his licence. Are there any gun/hunting clubs in our area? Does he need to join one to get a licence?

Also at present we are taxidermying things found dead on the road and the occasional fox shot by friends, so if anyone picks up anything unusuall suitable for taxidermy please contact me as I would be happy to give you a bit of something for it.

The way taxidermists operate is that you would bring something for them to stuff. Why not just advertise yourself as a taxidermist and see what business you get?

Vegeta

deeksofdoom wrote: »

The way taxidermists operate is that you would bring something for them to stuff. Why not just advertise yourself as a taxidermist and see what business you get?

I'd say they need some example work to show people deeks. Handiest way (and most enjoyable way) to do that is probably go out and shoot it yourself

Vegeta

Op to answer one of the questions, there are a lot of gun clubs in Munster.

poulo6.5

CarlaAnkiah wrote: »

Hi,

We moved to Ireland just over a year ago and we have just began the process of making our hobby of Taxidermy into a business. My husband needs to get a gun licence so he can hunt and shoot fox, rabbits, crows etc. We have permission to shoot over 60acres of land once he gets his licence. Are there any gun/hunting clubs in our area? Does he need to join one to get a licence?

Also at present we are taxidermying things found dead on the road and the occasional fox shot by friends, so if anyone picks up anything unusuall suitable for taxidermy please contact me as I would be happy to give you a bit of something for it.

where abouts in munster are you, its a big place and most if not all gun clubs would be local clubs for local people if you know what i mean, you would have to be proposed and seconded so at least one or two people in the club would have to know who you are. at least thats how it is in my club. i'm not saying its right but thats how it is.
have you tried to call into your local gun dealer and find out from him who is who and maybe he could point you in the right direction.
bast of luck with your new venture.

kfod

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Er,sorry to but in here.But where exactly is there an acerage limit set down in the firearms acts for either rifle or shotgun??????

hi Grizzly, is it me you were asking?

If so, the OP says they have permission to shoot 60 acres, I wasn't implying you need 60 acres, sorry for any ambiguity.

To go off thread though, I wonder what the minimum land requirement would be. Say I have an acre site in the country, will they licence me on that. I suppose it is up to the Gardai's discression.

To the OP, the NARGC website has a list of the member clubs, but has no contact details listed, here:

http://www.nargc.ie/site/partners/club_links.aspx

you need to contact NARGC for the details.

Grizzly 45

That was my point kfod.There isnt any acerage requirements!!Unlike the UK which has some sort of minimum acerage to shoot over.We dont!:)

CarlaAnkiah

First of all thanks you guys for the advise.

We do, do comissions however as we sold pretty much everything when we moved we do not have many of examples of our work. I do not like accepting commisions when the customer has not seen a good variety of the work we do. Taxidermy is a form of art (in my opinion) and like most art, everyone has there unique style.

We are in Meelin a wee little village just outside Newmarket in North County Cork. About an hour from Cork city, Limerick, Tralee, and Killarney. We are sort of slap bang in the middle of them all. The people we know round here with gun licenses own them for hunting and are not members of any club. I have looked online but just can't seem to find anything. To be honest I am still trying to get my head around the gun licensing legislation and i am not sure if my husband would need to join a gun club or not?

J.R.

CarlaAnkiah wrote: »

Hi,

Also at present we are taxidermying things found dead on the road and the occasional fox shot by friends, so if anyone picks up anything unusuall suitable for taxidermy please contact me as I would be happy to give you a bit of something for it.

Hi,

As you've move to Ireland from abroad I'm not sure if you're familiar with the legalities of setting up a taxidermy business here in Ireland.

If you intend to practice taxidermy here in Ireland and mount protected species you will need to apply for, and get, a Wildlife Dealer's Licence. This is free and available from the National Parks & Wildlife Service (N.P.W.S.)

http://www.npws.ie/licences/importexporttrade/wildlifedealerslicence/

When you apply the local N.P.W.S. Ranger will call to your premises and inspect. If you are deemed suitable to be granted a licence it will be posted to you within a week with a log book to record all protected items mounted.

Without the above licence you are not allowed mount any protected species....this included crows, pigeons, jackdaws, magpies etc. which are protected. You are only allowed mount vermin without the licence which are: mouse, rat, grey squirrel, rabbit, mink, Muntjac deer, fox & feral goats.

As you requested unusual items in the above post you will have to be very careful that the unusual species is not a protected species. Having protected species mounted when being inspected by the N.P.W.S. ranger for your Wildlife Dealer's Licence could seriously jeopardize your chances of being successful (in my opinion!)

Hope I haven't 'knocked the wind out of your sails' but you are better off to know the full details and requirements and get set up legally and within the law.

When you do get your Wildlife Dealers Licence the N.P.W.S. Ranger can be very strict on protected species found on the roadside. See my previous post here (post number 7) :

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=73914798#post73914798


Wildlife dealer's licence.

Wildlife Act (Ammendment) 2000

53.—The Principal Act is hereby amended by the substitution of the following for section 48:


“48.—(1) The Minister may, on application being made in that behalf, if thought fit and on payment of the prescribed fee (if any), grant or renew a licence (in this Act referred to as a ‘wildlife dealer's licence') authorising the applicant to carry on business as a wildlife dealer at premises specified in the licence.

(2) A wildlife dealer's licence shall, unless it is previously revoked, remain in force until the 31st day of July following the year in which it was granted or renewed.

(3) The Minister may, on application being made in that behalf, from time to time and on payment of the prescribed fee (if any), renew a licence granted under subsection (1) of this section.

(4) (a) Every applicant for the grant or renewal of a licence under this section shall have the right of appeal, to the District Court for the District in which the applicant resides, against the refusal of the Minister to grant or renew such a licence.

(b) Where, in the case of the refusal by the Minister to grant or renew a licence under this section, the applicant is the holder of a subsisting licence under this section, then the licence shall continue in force pending the determination of an appeal against such refusal, or the appeal ceases for any other reason.

(c) The Minister shall be notified in writing by registered post by the applicant of any such appeal not less than 21 days before the hearing of the appeal and shall have the right to appear and be heard at the hearing.

(d) Where an appeal under this subsection is allowed, the Minister shall grant or renew, as appropriate, a licence subject to any conditions which the judge allowing the appeal may require to be attached to the licence.

(5) The Minister may, in considering an application for the grant or renewal of a licence under this section, have regard to the following:


(a) the suitability of the applicant, taking into account the purposes of this Act, to hold a wildlife dealer's licence,

(b) the suitability of the premises, taking into account all relevant legislative provisions relating to food hygiene and food safety, where the applicant proposes to carry on the business of wildlife dealing, and

(c) the ability of the applicant to comply with regulations made under section 46(2) of this Act which are for the time being in force.


(6) (a) The Minister may, having given 21 days' notice to the holder of a licence issued under this section, revoke the licence if the holder has failed to comply with the conditions thereof or with regulations made under section 46(2) of this Act which are for the time being in force, and shall notify the holder of the reasons for such revocation.

(b) The holder of a wildlife dealer's licence shall have the right to appeal, to the District Court for the District in which the applicant resides, within a period of 21 days in respect of the notification by the Minister to revoke the licence.

(c) Where, in the case of the notification of revocation by the Minister of a licence under this section, the holder of the licence appeals to the District Court in accordance with paragraph (b), the licence shall continue in force pending the determination of an appeal against such revocation, or the appeal ceases for any other reason.

(d) The Minister shall be notified in writing by registered post of any appeal to which paragraph (b) relates not less than 21 days before the hearing of the appeal and shall have the right to appear and be heard at the hearing.

(7) The Minister may, on application being made in that behalf by the holder of the wildlife dealer's licence, amend a licence issued under this section.”.


Full details here in the act:

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2000/en/act/pub/0038/print.html#sec53

CarlaAnkiah

Hi,

Thanks for the information on the legislation. The legislation is infact very similar in England so I pretty much know the ins and outs of it. There are a few differences with regards the animals that are and arn't protected.

Everything we mounted in England was done 'by the book' with all the relavent certification from DEFRA and licencing etc. And just to clarify we intend to do everything by the book here

lolliemunster

thanks for posting that info j.r it was very usefull for me!!

BryanL

Joining a club may not be necessary but could be very beneficial for you and your husband.
Bryan.

terminator2

kfod wrote: »

hi Grizzly, is it me you were asking?

If so, the OP says they have permission to shoot 60 acres, I wasn't implying you need 60 acres, sorry for any ambiguity.

To go off thread though, I wonder what the minimum land requirement would be. Say I have an acre site in the country, will they licence me on that. I suppose it is up to the Gardai's discression.

To the OP, the NARGC website has a list of the member clubs, but has no contact details listed, here:

http://www.nargc.ie/site/partners/club_links.aspx

you need to contact NARGC for the details.

any club that has their own website has contact details posted

Hunter21

I'm trying to contact the original starter Iof thus thread for awhile now but no success, can anyone help? Anyone know the person