Community Welfare

1saddude

I signed on a few months ago after a FAS course with a new address so I have to wait for ages while they means test me. I went to Community Welfare and now I am getting 23 euro a week. I'm wondering if this what I will get on the dole? I heard they give you half of what the dole give you, but I dunno. Please help.

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1saddude wrote: »

I signed on a few months ago after a FAS course with a new address so I have to wait for ages while they means test me. I went to Community Welfare and now I am getting 23 euro a week. I'm wondering if this what I will get on the dole? I heard they give you half of what the dole give you, but I dunno. Please help.

Probably just the 23, its not great but lidl and aldi do good

1saddude

Will they sell me a nice, sturdy rope?

Balagan

Would recommend that you go back to the Community Welfare Officer asap and talk through why the Supplementary Welfare payment they are giving to tide you over till your JSA claim is processed is so low.

Also remember that the St Vincent de Paul would provide help to you till this is sorted. You can locate their office nearest to you through this http://www.svp.ie/contact-us.aspx

maryk123

you need to give more infor-are you living with someone-living at home-what means do you have that you got 23eur. was it benefit and privilege?????

1saddude

Finally got my dole back today. After 2 fecking months I got 98 euro. I can't wait till the next elections, I'm gonna scream at every politician that comes to my door.

mrsbyrne

1saddude wrote: »

Finally got my dole back today. After 2 fecking months I got 98 euro. I can't wait till the next elections, I'm gonna scream at every politician that comes to my door.

Full dole is 188euro. to be only getting 98euro you must have some other means, other income, under 25 and living with parents, living with spouse/partner who is working etc.

1saddude

im aware of that. I got 98 after it was building for for 2 months. im only getting like 20 euro. Is absolutely ridiculous that I'm not even eligible for (what they call) the minimum! I had no idea things were actually cheaper for me than for a 25 year old.

mrsbyrne

your in your early twenties. you havent worked enough to have paid enough PRSI to be entitled to "benefit", or youve exhausted your benefit. Youve applied to the DSP for assistance..your living at home with mam and dad. The DSP have looked at mam and dads income. mam and dad are not going to let you go hungry or cold. You cant expect to get the same as someone older living independently from family who has been working for years, surely?

1saddude

There's people younger than me that never worked a day in their lives getting full dole. What am I honestly expected to do with 20 euro? They might aswell have given me nothing.

Balagan

Am puzzled at your payment of Euro 20. Surely if you are at home with your parents and your means based on their income has been assessed at more than the rate of SW you are entitled to, you would get nothing, and if they have been assessed at less than the amount you are entitled to, you would be due the minimum payment of Euro 40? Maybe some of those posting here who are famililar with SW payments would throw light on why someone would be getting less than the minimum payment. Has the minimum payment been changed?

mrsbyrne

1saddude wrote: »

There's people younger than me that never worked a day in their lives getting full dole. What am I honestly expected to do with 20 euro? They might aswell have given me nothing.

Rates
Jobseeker Allowance rates from January 2011

Maximum rate for people aged 25 or over
New and existing claimants Personal rate Increase for a qualified adult Increase for a qualified child
Maximum rate €188 €124.80 €29.80
Maximum rate for people under 25
Age Personal rate Increase for a qualified adult
18 - 19 €100 €100
20 - 21 €100 €100
22 - 24 €144 €124.80
Exceptions to age-related Jobseeker's Allowance payments for people under 25

The reduced age-related personal and qualified adult rates of Jobseeker’s Allowance for claimants under 25 years of age do not apply in the following cases:

Claimants with dependent children
People transferring to Jobseeker’s Allowance immediately after finishing their entitlement to Jobseeker’s Benefit
People transferring from Disability Allowance to Jobseeker’s Allowance
Where an existing Jobseeker’s Allowance claimant is assessed at the higher rate of allowance gets work but loses that job and is back on Jobseeker’s Allowance within 12 months
People under 25 participating in a course of education, training or Community Employment. However, when the course ends you will return to an age-related JA payment, if you were getting one before you started the course.
You were at least 20 years of age on 30 December 2009 and became unemployed on or before 30 December 2009
You were 18 or 19 on 30 December 2009 and you became unemployed on or before 29 April 2009
You are 22 to 24 and taking part in the Work Placement Programme run by FÁS
Certain children in the care of the HSE during the 12 months before reaching 18 years of age will also be assessed using the JA rate for people aged 25 or over.

eastbono

Balagan wrote: »

Am puzzled at your payment of Euro 20. Surely if you are at home with your parents and your means based on their income has been assessed at more than the rate of SW you are entitled to, you would get nothing, and if they have been assessed at less than the amount you are entitled to, you would be due the minimum payment of Euro 40? Maybe some of those posting here who are famililar with SW payments would throw light on why someone would be getting less than the minimum payment. Has the minimum payment been changed?

OP has no minimum entitlement as it is JSA and that is means tested. With means testing you only qualify for whatever your means are assessed at.

Balagan

eastbono wrote: »

OP has no minimum entitlement as it is JSA and that is means tested. With means testing you only qualify for whatever your means are assessed at.

But...

Minimum Weekly Payment
The minimum weekly payment of JA in cases where the customer's means are solely derived from benefit of parental income and where those means are less than the personal rate of JA is €40.00. This is effective from 7 April 2004http/webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NSqG4EgKaVIJ:www.welfare.ie/EN/OperationalGuidelines/Pages/ua_benpriv.aspx+jobseekers+allowance+benefit+and+privilege&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie&source=www.google.ie

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When you apply for Jobseeker's Allowance, your means is assessed to find out whether you will qualify. If you are 24 years of age or under and you are living with a parent or a step-parent in the family home, your parents' income is also taken into account. The Department of Social Protection call this an assessment of the benefit and privilege you get from living with your parents.

This means, while you may have no income, your parents' income can affect the amount of your social welfare payment. If however your only means are from the benefit of your parents' income and those means are calculated as less than the personal rate of Jobseeker's Allowance, the minimum weekly payment you are entitled to is €40.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/how_parents_income_can_affect_jobseekers_allowance.html

Assume it the Euro20 pw payment is because the OP has means other than the benefit and privilege from parents' incomes.

eastbono

Hi Balgan,

I will double check this and get back to OP tomorrow.

OP has not stated what their personal circumstances are e.g. living with parents or living with partner.

Update

If the only means being assessed for OP are parental then OP is entitled to a minimum of €40 per week.

1saddude

eastbono wrote: »

Hi Balgan,

I will double check this and get back to OP tomorrow.

OP has not stated what their personal circumstances are e.g. living with parents or living with partner.

Update

If the only means being assessed for OP are parental then OP is entitled to a minimum of €40 per week.

sorry for necrobump.

This is not true, I am under the age of 25 so I don't qualify for the minimum of 40. Because, as we all know, everything is cheaper for people under 25.

Kerry3333

How are things cheaper for people under 25?
I dont understand what you are supposed to do with 20 euro a week, I would have preferred nothing.
Can you not go to Citizens Info and see what you are entitled to.
I wouldnt accept 20 euro a week!
When I went into CWO, she offered me 100 euro a week I refused, as I have rent and esb to pay, petrol to put in the car, a loan to pay back every week.
There is no way people can survive on 20 euro a week. Its an insult to even offer it!

cee_jay

Its a means tested payment. If someone is getting 20 euro a week there are means coming into the household apart from Jobseekers.
And €100 is better than nothing!