New Holland TD80D

LivInt20

Anybody any opinion on a New Holland TD80D 4WD.

Are they a good tractor?

What price would a five or six year old tractor be?

Muckit

Hi there

We've a TD85D 4WD. Bought a 03 in 2006 for €22K. Good tractor. A basic Fiat tractor in blue overalls is how I could best describe it. No complicated electrics. A lot of cable controls like a Fiat (lift etc). Majority of maintenance is DIY.

A very comfortable, modern yet basic part time farmers tractor. It's like anything, it depends what you want from it.

We don't have a loader on ours, but use a Mchale 4'6" shear grab on mast on the back no problem.

It's lighter than a TL or TS of the same horsepower (If you've checked one out and looked at the backend you'I know what I mean). But they are less money and have a nicer more rounded cab.

If I had one thing bad to say about them, the brakes are not the best, especially if you've a load behind. It does have a hydraulic trailer braking coupling, but we've an old 12' X7' trailer with no brakes. Don't have a slurry tanker either.

Hope this helps

Muckit

reilig

Any clutch problems Muckit?

They have a dry clutch. In 2009 when I bought the T5050, I was looking at a TD5050D ( I Think) which would be a new version of the TD95D and €4000 cheaper than the T5050. However I was advised that the dry clutch can give problems after 3000 hours or at 2000 hours if you have a loader on it. T5050 has an oil clutch with a shuttle at the steering wheel and is supposed to have a much longer life!!

Muckit wrote: »

Hi there

We've a TD85D 4WD. Bought a 03 in 2006 for €22K. Good tractor. A basic Fiat tractor in blue overalls is how I could best describe it. No complicated electrics. A lot of cable controls like a Fiat (lift etc). Majority of maintenance is DIY.

A very comfortable, modern yet basic part time farmers tractor. It's like anything, it depends what you want from it.

We don't have a loader on ours, but use a Mchale 4'6" shear grab on mast on the back no problem.

It's lighter than a TL or TS of the same horsepower (If you've checked one out and looked at the backend you'I know what I mean). But they are less money and have a nicer more rounded cab.

If I had one thing bad to say about them, the brakes are not the best, especially if you've a load behind. It does have a hydraulic trailer braking coupling, but we've an old 12' X7' trailer with no brakes. Don't have a slurry tanker either.

Hope this helps

Muckit

Muckit

No clutch problems Thank God. Yes they have a dry clutch as opposed to a wet clutch on most other NH models. Personally I think lads put too much emphasis on this and it's a bit of scare mongering on the dealers part. A lot of it boils down to the use and the abuse.

We've still only ~800hrs on ours! As I said, if your part time farming they are ideal. What's the point in paying out big money on a tractor to haul in a few bales and a bit of topping during the summer and for an hours work max every other day during the winter feeding? And the clutch definitely isn't going to be wearing when its parked up in the shed the rest of the time!! We use contractor for silage and slurry.

Didn't make sense to me at the time to pay out the same or more money on an older well used and 'dolled up' TL90 or 6635 with 4000 hrs plus on the clock.

reilig

Muckit wrote: »

Personally I think lads put too much emphasis on this and it's a bit of scare mongering on the dealers part. A lot of it boils down to the use and the abuse.

It wasn't the dealer that advised me. It was a mechanic who has a lot of experience of having to re-do clutches on them. I agree that it boils down to how you use them. How do you find cab space in it? Its a bit tighter than the TL or T50 models - that was another reason for not buying for me.

Tora Bora

LivInt20 wrote: »

Anybody any opinion on a New Holland TD80D 4WD.

Are they a good tractor?

What price would a five or six year old tractor be?

Here you go. One for sale in Kerry. Give him a ring and let us know the price;)

http://fapequip.com/

Muckit

reilig wrote: »

It was a mechanic who has a lot of experience of having to re-do clutches on them.

I didn't realise they were that popular. Very few of them around these parts.

I never understand why lads want a 'big cab'. Perhaps you can explain your logic. I don't have a dog, rarely carry passengers and the tractor doesn't break down enough to have it packed with tools. As for myself, the driver, there's ample elbow room. Sure I'm taller than I am wide Thank God.

The rounded cab of the TD gives a great view out the back and to the sides as you don't have a corner pillar in your line of view. The curved side window are hinged at the back and direct a nice breeze in if needs be.



That tractor Tora is the exact same model as ours ('03/'04/' tractor). No front mudguards and the rear road lights are mounted directly on the mudguards as opposed to the latest ones that are out on stalks (Case's JX series are the same). They have fitted a lever for the lift outside aswel on the newer ones. This isn't a feature on this version, so I find myself having to inevitably reach in the back window to adjust when putting on machinery.

I see the dealer above has mounted the rims on the ouside of the centres to give her a wider stance on the front over standard fitment below.

Tora Bora

Muckit wrote: »

I didn't realise they were that popular. Very few of them around these parts.

I never understand why lads want a 'big cab'. Perhaps you can explain your logic. I don't have a dog, rarely carry passengers and the tractor doesn't break down enough to have it packed with tools. As for myself, the driver, there's ample elbow room. Sure I'm taller than I am wide Thank God.

The rounded cab of the TD gives a great view out the back and to the sides as you don't have a corner pillar in your line of view. The curved side window are hinged at the back and direct a nice breeze in if needs be.



That tractor Tora is the exact same model as ours ('03/'04/' tractor). No front mudguards and the rear road lights are mounted directly on the mudguards as opposed to the latest ones that are out on stalks (Case's JX series are the same). They have fitted a lever for the lift outside aswel on the newer ones. This isn't a feature on this version, so I find myself having to inevitably reach in the back window to adjust when putting on machinery.

I see the dealer above has mounted the rims on the ouside of the centres to give her a wider stance on the front over standard fitment below.

In fact these models, seem like an exact carbon copy of the Case JX, o the other way around if you prefer.

reilig

There are a few of them in this part of the country with 2 dealers within 25 miles of us on both sides.

I can't stand tight cabs. Its allright if you're in it for less than an hour a day, but if you are doing 5 or 10 hour days then comfort is paramount with an air seat and enough room so that you don't clip your elbows every time you turn the wheel. Well worth the extra money IMO and certainly a popular choice which is reflected by the number of TL models in the country as opposed to TD's.

Muckit wrote: »

I didn't realise they were that popular. Very few of them around these parts.

I never understand why lads want a 'big cab'. Perhaps you can explain your logic. I don't have a dog, rarely carry passengers and the tractor doesn't break down enough to have it packed with tools. As for myself, the driver, there's ample elbow room. Sure I'm taller than I am wide Thank God.

The rounded cab of the TD gives a great view out the back and to the sides as you don't have a corner pillar in your line of view. The curved side window are hinged at the back and direct a nice breeze in if needs be.



That tractor Tora is the exact same model as ours ('03/'04/' tractor). No front mudguards and the rear road lights are mounted directly on the mudguards as opposed to the latest ones that are out on stalks (Case's JX series are the same). They have fitted a lever for the lift outside aswel on the newer ones. This isn't a feature on this version, so I find myself having to inevitably reach in the back window to adjust when putting on machinery.

I see the dealer above has mounted the rims on the ouside of the centres to give her a wider stance on the front over standard fitment below.

Muckit

Tora Bora wrote: »

In fact these models, seem like an exact carbon copy of the Case JX, o the other way around if you prefer.

Of course! A few subtle differences, but yes basically the same.
They're both owned by the same company CNH, might explain it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNH_(company)

stanflt

you can win a case version in the irish indo:)

Muckit

reilig wrote: »

I can't stand tight cabs. Comfort is paramount and enough room so that you don't clip your elbows every time you turn the wheel. Well worth the extra money IMO and certainly a popular choice which is reflected by the number of TL models in the country as opposed to TD's.

As Brendan Grace once said about the clothes label ONE SIZE FITS ALL, 'I find it's one size fits some.' I'd have to have grow arms like a chimpanzee to clip my elbows inside our TD. It helps I suppose too when you've good level ground.

It's probably more the dry clutch to be fair that puts most lads off them rather than the cab size.

Muckit

stanflt wrote: »

you can win a case version in the irish indo:)

Seen that alright. They must be sh*t, when they're giving them away !!

epfff

Muckit wrote: »

Seen that alright. They must be sh*t, when they're giving them away !!

Any new views on these

rs8

am i right in think theres a smaller engine in the td as aposed to the tl models?

powerfarmer

There was a few New Holland TD90Ds around here mostly on stud farms .
Some of them gave clutch problems with worn release bearings mostly due to inexperienced drivers ,and drivers unfamiliar with the pto clutch arrangement.

I drove both the NH and Case versions theyre a neat small tractor and the cab is comfortable enough with great visability.