landcruiser or discovery ???

kincaid

hi

i'm on the lookout for new 4X4 and its between a new type 2005 on dicovery or landcruiser. i like the look of both but im finding it very hard to make up my mind..
i really like the shape of the discovery but heard they are not that reliable but then the landcruiser has problems too..
i would not be doing that much tough work with them really

any advice-which would you go for

101sean

Nearly everyone on here is going to shout Landcruiser for reliability! :rolleyes:
There was an issue with injectors in one engine, if you do a search, you'll find some posts on it.

I assume by 2005 on you are looking at Discovery 3? No real issues with them and spares and accessories support is excellent. Have a look at http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/ for known problems.

colm_mcm

the cruiser indeed does have its issues. the disco is way more refined and sounds a billion times nicer.

A lot of older cruisers have had a hard life. get a nice one if you can

101sean

A V8 petrol one sounds even nicer but that's never going to happen here :rolleyes:

enda1

101sean wrote: »

A V8 petrol one sounds even nicer but that's never going to happen here :rolleyes:

Putting a V8 petrol engine into a 4x4 utility vehicle is probably one of the most stupid decisions a man could make.

Edit: Actually, why not since he's not gonna be doing much heavy duty work I guess.

101sean

Oooh, red rag to a bull (well a V8 fan at least)

V8 petrol engines are very common elsewhere where fuel prices aren't as crazy and have tons of low down torque. Big V8 petrols are options on ROW spec Land Cruisers and other full size 4x4s. To say a V8 petrol isn't capable of hard work is nonsense, just totally impractical in most of Europe:rolleyes:

My 101 was designed with a V8 as there were no decent diesels at the time and in service would have been running at a GCW of 5-6 tons with the gun hung on the back. The MOD were footing the fuel bill though!

Tora Bora

Nothing, but nothing on four wheels, is as unreliable as a Land Rover. They are crap, through and through. Utter crap.
OP, get yourself anything else on the market, and you will be better off. I mean anything.

101sean

Nice helpful well informed comment :rolleyes::mad:

kincaid

yes it would be a discovery 3, surely they are not that bad

my friend was also interested in one and was going to purchase a commerical in Dublin and bring it into Northern Ireland and covert it to a passenger vehicle but i believe there is some issues with this as think it will state on irish logbook that the vehicle is commerical

101sean

If it was a proper factory commercial he'll have problems, seatbelt holes welded, flat floor welded in, steel panelled doors etc. It would be far easier just to buy a passenger one.

kincaid

but most are the proper factory ones ?

think there is a problem with the logbook too switching from commerical to passenger -anyone know?

he can get the leather interior at 500stg

101sean

Vast majority would be but there may have been the odd one converted here after a while registered as passenger, you don't need to wreck so much as VRT has already been paid, you used to just need to satisfy DOE. Nothing is impossible but it will be a heck of a lot of work inc possibly reprogramming the BECU to get rear windows to work

Shouldn't make any difference tax wise in the north as they are all the same PLG classification?

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Fishtits

Tora Bora wrote: »

Nothing, but nothing on four wheels, is as unreliable as a Land Rover. They are crap, through and through. Utter crap.
OP, get yourself anything else on the market, and you will be better off. I mean anything.

I guess you got a bad one?

I've owned/driven/lived with dozens of different 4x4s in literally dozens of countries, military, civilian and armoured. From Africa to the Middle East to Asia.

Based on my experience, I don't agree with your opinion.

They may not be the most reliable, but they're not that bad.

Theanswers

101sean wrote: »

Vast majority would be but there may have been the odd one converted here after a while registered as passenger, you don't need to wreck so much as VRT has already been paid, you used to just need to satisfy DOE. Nothing is impossible but it will be a heck of a lot of work inc possibly reprogramming the BECU to get rear windows to work

Shouldn't make any difference tax wise in the north as they are all the same PLG classification?

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Na, The window motors should be there.
Just plug it in by ripping off the door card.

I'd nearly bet a weeks wages it would work...

LCruiser Kid

Buy a landcruiser. You no it makes sense :cool::cool:
Enough said

mosesgun

I have a Landrover Discovery for work and we have a Landcuiser as our family car. Both great vehicles. I do long miles in the Landover and it's comfortable, dependable and feels like a car to drive. We've had the Landcruiser for 3 yeards and it's never skipped a beat, fantastic vehicle. Never anything wrong with it. I find the Landcruiser a bit more agricultural and not as refined as the Landrover but having said that I've had some small issues with the the Landrover and it's only 2009. On balance I prefer driving the landrover but I trust the landcruiser a bit more.

paulmcn

mosesgun wrote: »

I have a Landrover Discovery for work and we have a Landcuiser as our family car. Both great vehicles. I do long miles in the Landover and it's comfortable, dependable and feels like a car to drive. We've had the Landcruiser for 3 yeards and it's never skipped a beat, fantastic vehicle. Never anything wrong with it. I find the Landcruiser a bit more agricultural and not as refined as the Landrover but having said that I've had some small issues with the the Landrover and it's only 2009. On balance I prefer driving the landrover but I trust the landcruiser a bit more.

Just wondering what kind of problems u had with your discovery, gathering my shillings to buy one or a landcruiser. Was chatting a lad who has one from new '06 and only prob he had was an egr valve. Tis hard to get a cruiser that hasnt collosal mileage or the arse pulled out of it.:D

beretta686s

sales man in work has an 07 disco 3 pure money pitt eats tyres off it as well landcruiser all the way

Fishtits

beretta686s wrote: »

sales man in work has an 07 disco 3 pure money pitt eats tyres off it as well landcruiser all the way

I'm going to get banned for this but that post is ignorance.

The rest of the Disco owners have no issue with tyre wear, get it set up right.

323

Tyre issue sounds strange, Have not experienced this or even heard of anything like that.

Bought 07 Disco 3 in January last. Have driven Land Cruisers a lot and a few friends have them.
Find the Discovery much more spacious, more comfortable and solid to drive, defiantly more stable on the road, it is a vastly more advanced in design to the Land Cruiser and with decent tyres for those not afraid to dirty them more capable off road.

The electrics reliability issues, which were very real in the Range Rover, generally went away after BMW took over Land Rover in the Late 90's

The collapsible (forward facing) back row seats making it a full 7 seater, are great when needed.

101sean

No reason to ban you Fishtits, just try and keep replies reasonably polite

Only reason for a D3 to eat tyres is suspension out of alignment, needs setting up on a full 4 wheel laser alignment rig by someone who knows what they are doing.

beretta686s

101sean wrote: »

No reason to ban you Fishtits, just try and keep replies reasonably polite

Only reason for a D3 to eat tyres is suspension out of alignment, needs setting up on a full 4 wheel laser alignment rig by someone who knows what they are doing.

all that done he just does a lot of road work pulling trailers and that

101sean

Ok, fair enough, just a hard working one then!