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Absent parents

  • 21-08-2011 1:30pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭


    Should they be chased and made to pay for their off spring?,im not sure if there's a core age that does it,maybe its more prevalent in young lads/young wans who hate the notion of been tied down with kid and partner,leaving the state to pick up the tab,or maybe some use the absenteeism to gain more from the state in welfare.
    newstalk reports a bill is been drafted-

    http://www.newstalk.ie/2011/uncategorized/should-absent-parents-be-penalised-for-not-paying-maintenance/
    Should absent parents be penalised for not paying maintenance for their children? It is said that one in four parents are not coughing up for maintenance. New legislation is being drawn up under the Civil Law Bill to crack down on parents who do not pay.Agreed maintenance payments vary between €5 and €500 per week. Average maintenance contributions of €65 per week are paid to spouses caring for a child. 16,000 maintenance cases will be dealt with by the government’s maintenance recovery unit.
    The state pays a further €1 billion a year in lone parent payments and rent allowance to single parents. The overwhelming majority of these are women.
    In the UK the state are threatening suspension of parents driving licences and passports who do not pay.

    Should the state force absentee parent to pay up? 22 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    100% 22 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    Asbetee :D teehee.

    and yes of course they should be chased for payments. I don't see why this is even a question or point for debate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Of course. If you make a kid its your responsibility to ensure that that child is looked after. Its not up to the rest of us to look after your kids you selfish twats.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,532 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    *waits for absentee parents to vote no*


    EDIT: I voted yes, but just to clarify, if the absentee parent has no or limited access to their child because the parent who has custody won't allow them any or they're only allowed like one or two days a week then they should pay nothing or reduced maintenance respectively.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 687 ✭✭✭headmaster


    YES, any parent should be responsible for a life they've brought into the world. The mothers should get nothing until such time as the name and address of the father is given. If the girl has another child out of wedlock, she should be given nothing by the irish state. The amount of women who are living permanently with long term boyfriends and not giving the fathers name to the child, are also sinful, because they claim single mothers allowance. Is there anywhere i can report people who are doing this? i know 2 who are very brazen about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Take your sinful nonsense and shove it :D

    As a separated father, yes I think we should pay maintenance for the child, but should also be granted access to equal guardianship in turn.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    headmaster wrote: »
    If the girl has another child out of wedlock, she should be given nothing by the irish state. The amount of women who are living permanently with long term boyfriends and not giving the fathers name to the child, are also sinful

    Would you ever fúck off.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,532 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Take your sinful nonsense and shove it :D

    As a separated father, yes I think we should pay maintenance for the child, but should also be granted access to equal guardianship in turn.

    Agree entirely, if someone has to pay full maintenance for their child then they should have equal entitlement to guardianship of that child as the parent who the child lives with full time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Some use maintenance as a bargaining chip for access

    I can't vote yes or no until that's sorted
    If you're going to be making contributions you should have access and guardianship

    edit, Sonics has much the same above


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    Yes but when the majority are scummers on the dole it would just be a waste of resources tracking them down and demanding they hand over 20 a week from their 188 euro of state money.

    Plus you have the problem of fathers not having access but being landed paying maintenance while the mother is on welfare receiving child allowance for being a single parent. Whole thing is a mess. But in theory yes, each parent should be equally responsible for the wellbeing, and financial needs of the child.


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