Starting pay scale

cmssjone · 18-08-2011 4:30pm #1

I am a British trained teacher (PGCE) with a number of years of teaching experience, both in the UK and International schools. Will these years of experience be included in the Irish system or will I be expected to start again on the bottom rung of the pay scale? Thanks for your help.

rainbowtrout · 18-08-2011 5:21pm

Don't know about your international experience but your years in the UK will count.

cmssjone · 18-08-2011 7:14pm

Thanks a lot for that rainbowtrout. At least I know where I stand.

rainbowtrout · 18-08-2011 8:36pm

Was talking to a friend earlier and she taught for a few years in Australia and her years there were recognised. She had to get a letter written by the school on headed paper stating how many years etc she had completed in the school. Department gave her credit for it.

rose23 · 18-08-2011 10:34pm

Im a NQT but I have two years teaching experience prior to the PGDE (maternity leave cover).. I dont think I will start on the new entrant scale.. what do ye think though??

oat · 18-08-2011 11:13pm

As far as I know Rose23 you'll start at te bottom again. I think it starts from after you complete the pgde, I could be wrong though

whiteandlight · 18-08-2011 11:21pm

rose23 wrote: »

Im a NQT but I have two years teaching experience prior to the PGDE (maternity leave cover).. I dont think I will start on the new entrant scale.. what do ye think though??

The two years teaching doesn't count as it was unqualified but you will be on the old salary scale not the new one as you have been employed by the department before

Moody_mona · 19-08-2011 4:02am

Musicmental85 wrote: »

rose23 wrote: »

Im a NQT but I have two years teaching experience prior to the PGDE (maternity leave cover).. I dont think I will start on the new entrant scale.. what do ye think though??

The two years teaching doesn't count as it was unqualified but you will be on the old salary scale not the new one as you have been employed by the department before

I have subbed unqualified and been on the department's payroll but I will be on the new entrant salary scale when I secure a teaching post as it was unqualified subbing. I have looked onto this on the INTO and ASTI websites. Sorry!

whiteandlight · 19-08-2011 10:01am

Moody_mona wrote: »

Musicmental85 wrote: »

rose23 wrote: »

Im a NQT but I have two years teaching experience prior to the PGDE (maternity leave cover).. I dont think I will start on the new entrant scale.. what do ye think though??

The two years teaching doesn't count as it was unqualified but you will be on the old salary scale not the new one as you have been employed by the department before

I have subbed unqualified and been on the department's payroll but I will be on the new entrant salary scale when I secure a teaching post as it was unqualified subbing. I have looked onto this on the INTO and ASTI websites. Sorry!

Where did you find that info? All I've seen was

"You will not be classed as a 'new entrant' if you have, prior to January 2011, given any Department paid teaching service. Any teacher who has given such Department paid service, even as a short-term substitute teacher, is not classed as a 'new entrant' for the purposes of salary.

You will be classed as a 'new entrant' if you had not, prior to January 2011, given Department paid teaching service of any kind."

You've been employed so would be on old scales?

Moody_mona · 19-08-2011 11:44am

I don't have any links, it was just from casual searching on the ASTI website. I'll have a closer look because I really thought I saw the word qualified in there and I would LOVE for you to be right!

Where is your quote from?

rose23 · 19-08-2011 1:19pm

I actually rang the ASTI a few weeks ago to ask about this and they seemed to think that I would be on the old salary scale..

However they werent 100% certain as the report didnt say anything about 'qualified/unqualified'... so I guess I may just wait and see when I get my first pay cheque! Heres hoping that I start on the old salary scale!

caroline72 · 19-08-2011 1:25pm

I'm in the exact same position, emailed Payroll on the 14th of july and they haven't got back to me at all! I think though we are on the old scale. We'll just have to wait and see!

raytray · 21-08-2011 1:53pm

I am in the same position also! I have emailed the department 3 times since the circular came out and have got no response! They probably have not copped on that this qualified/unqualified issue would exist. They also don't mention if you have to have subbed for a certain number of hours which would also be useful info as I just subbed during the year I was completing my PGDE so Im not sure if this counts.

raytray · 21-08-2011 2:00pm

I just noticed this in the FAQ in the circular:
I am a newly qualified teacher who has never worked as a substitute
teacher – Which pay scale will I start on?
Only service given in a teaching position pre-1 January 2011 will count as
prior service for eligibility for pre-2011 pay scales. If you have not served in a
teaching position (including as a substitute) before 1 January 2011 you will be
offered a contract at the new pay rates and conditions. You cannot receive
incremental credit for any training prior to entry to teaching.

The question would therefore imply that if you are an NQT who has worked as a sub you will be on old pay scale

Starting pay scale

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