ROLAND JUNO 106 OR DAVE SMITH POLY EVOLVER

A V A

iv been through many snyths and they didnt have the sounds i was looking for, i dont like using vst or plugins, i prefear to have the synth right onfront of me so i can play with the sounds manually.
i dont know weather to get the 106 or the poly, should i get the i get the poly for the simplicity of it and the origional pad sounds etc , or should i get the pole because its a modern synth and more things can be done with it etc but it looks hard to use , im not use to synths with programing and peripherals etc

if you could give me your 2cents that would be great

cheers

splitrmx

The Roland Juno 106 sounds great, however due to a manufacturing fault, a lot of their voice chips are now failing so if you get a 106 the chances are that one of its 80017A chips will die, which means you only have five note polyphony instead of six.

I know a few people who have had this problem. It can be fixed though by replacing the voice chip, more information here: http://analoguerenaissance.com/D80017/

If I were you I'd check out the Dave Smith Prophet 08.

A V A

yea cheers for that


the prophet o8 is a little out of my price range and iv played it in xmusic and that was a mindf*ck haha

rcaz

A V A wrote: »

iv been through many snyths and they didnt have the sounds i was looking for, i dont like using vst or plugins, i prefear to have the synth right onfront of me so i can play with the sounds manually.
... im not use to synths with programing and peripherals etc

If you're not used to programming synthesisers, maybe you shouldn't spend so much money on an analogue keyboard just yet? Having a hands-on piece of hardware won't make programming any easier than a softsynth if you don't know your way around a synth yet. And when you become a better programmer, you might be wishing you could start over with a different synth.

If you're dying to have something hands-on, get a MIDI keyboard with some knobs and assign them to parameters on a softsynth and program them that way. Don't jump to a top of the line analogue keyboard before you know your stuff inside out, imo.

A V A

i have tried the whole software thing but it annoys me, from what iv been told anyone could use a 106 ,it looks simple to me , i can program a elektron drum machine and things like tht but just midi sycning them and sequencing them is what i cant seem to figure out , thats all ,people have friends etc that are there to show them a few things ,but my friends dont like electronic music of any sort just simple guitar stuff if i had someone to point me in the right direction i would be sorted if you know what i mean

jtsuited

I presume you've read this?

rcaz

A V A wrote: »

i have tried the whole software thing but it annoys me, from what iv been told anyone could use a 106 ,it looks simple to me , i can program a elektron drum machine and things like tht but just midi sycning them and sequencing them is what i cant seem to figure out , thats all ,people have friends etc that are there to show them a few things ,but my friends dont like electronic music of any sort just simple guitar stuff if i had someone to point me in the right direction i would be sorted if you know what i mean

Soft and hardsynths do exactly the same stuff through different methods (real electric current vs. quantised numbers) and if you don't know the methods inside out yet, it's just the interface you'd be benefitting from at that stage. And you can sort that interface out for under €200 (under €100 too, but I'm guessing you'd like at least 49 keys and some knobs and buttons).

I want a modular synth, and I could save up for one within the year (alright, within the year, that wouldn't be much of a synth but it'd make noise...) and buy it, but I wouldn't know what the **** to do with it yet. But when I know analogue synthesis theory well enough, I'm gonna know exactly what kind of modules I want and I'll get a eurorack and I won't look back. But till then, I'm gonna stick with Pure Data and my NanoKontrol (free software and a €40 MIDI controller), a digital approximation of what my modular synth might be like. Just trying to save you a few grand

A V A

i know about saw waves etc

but im talkin about getting my way around synths ,it just confusses me !!!
iv no problem buyin a 106 i have the money ,iv saved for one!! maybe should i get someone to give me some pointers like a guitar lesson nearly ( dont kill me for saying that )

Neurojazz

JP8000 - Gives you stability and many more sounds - worth checking that out.

Valcin

I've owned and sold a Polyevolver and a Juno 60 which is basically the same synth as the Juno 106.
They are both very different synths. The polyevolver is brilliant, it can make loads of sounds never heard before, i loved it. But it is very complicated, it will take up a lot of your time and it has its own sound so you will find it hard to replicate synth sounds that you have heard from your favourite albums on it modern or vintage. It is a beautiful instrument.

The Juno 60/106 is very limited in the amount of sounds it does but those sounds are great. It sounds very 80's. You can get sounds from it that you have heard on albums you have. It is also a beautiful instrument. It is much less complicated than the poly evolver in fact it is very simple. In my opinion it will help you learn synths much quicker than using software or the polyevolver, it is very immediate and only for owning it it would have taken me a lot longer to learn synthesis but as I said it is very limited in its sounds.

Also, I am all for buying hardware synths because when you buy them second hand you can sell them for roughly the same price or even make a profit on them so I had both those synths for about a year or two for next to nothing and I personally find them a lot better for learning synthesis on than software.

I couldn't recommend one over the other to you though as they both have very different sounds that neither can replicate.

I hope this helps.

A V A

sounds like words of wisdom:D

i was lookin at waldorf blofeld the one with keys