gun in car ar work

lordarpad

Hi guys

does anybody know the rules for having my gun in my car at work with intent of going directly to the range after work? How do people handle that?

Sparks

Legally, there aren't any. There are recommendations aplenty, but no laws.
However, if your firearm is stolen from your car...
...well, odds are you'll have a hard time getting a new licence after that. At best.

lordarpad

OK, that makes sense. Although the odds for that are _very_ low on a company car park in an industrial estate.

Tackleberrywho

lordarpad wrote: »

Hi guys

does anybody know the rules for having my gun in my car at work with intent of going directly to the range after work? How do people handle that?

Reccomendations would be firearm in locked box, with a major component removed (Bolt or slide) And box to be locked to the Chasis.

Should not be on view, and potential passengers should not have access to it.

But they are not laws, more of a best practice approach.
Personally I would not reccomend it, and leave it at home

deeksofdoom

lordarpad wrote: »

Hi guys

does anybody know the rules for having my gun in my car at work with intent of going directly to the range after work? How do people handle that?

If I were you I'ld just bring it into work with you rather than leaving it out in the car.:D

Sparks

deeksofdoom wrote: »

If I were you I'ld just bring it into work with you rather than leaving it out in the car.:D

Actually, that's a better approach, if the office is okay with it. It'll be in a locked case anyway, just tucked under the desk or left in the security guard's office (if you have one). I did that for quite a while back when I was working in sandyford. It just wasn't a big deal.

lordarpad

yeah I asked security about that, they weren't happy with it. Too big a company sadly. And I defo can't leave it at my desk.

CardBordWindow

lordarpad wrote: »

yeah I asked security about that, they weren't happy with it. Too big a company sadly. And I defo can't leave it at my desk.

Did you ask whilst the gun was in your hand?

Tackleberrywho

lordarpad wrote: »

yeah I asked security about that, they weren't happy with it. Too big a company sadly. And I defo can't leave it at my desk.

Bolt out is best you can do then.
Without the bolt/slide or barrel, a rifle/pistol/shotgun is useless, Or change Jobs and Join the Army and lock it into the gard house

lordarpad

yeah, I'll do that. Thanks guys!

kildare.17hmr

iv had mine with me in work a couple of times. Locked it in the computer server room and kept the only key in my pocket for the day. Left it in the van once but it was parked right outside my window. I Wouldn't leave it with a security guard anyway!

clivej

I can't see a problem as long as you don't tell all and everyone its there. Have a look in the boot to see if there are any strap hold down loops, look under the boot mat.
Then you could get a small length of chain and a padlock to secure it down through the trigger guard and round the action, that way you have done all you can to prevent theft.

tommyboy26

I have done this once or twice. I keft it locked in the boot and broght the bolt in with me. I also told no one it was there this saves you the hassle of people wanting to look at it.

cavan shooter

I see the guards have something
http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/CP%20Info%20Sheet%20-firearm%20security%20-%20English.pdf

I have a length of plastic coated steel wire and a pad lock in the pick up which allows me to secure the case. Also when I have the auto I can run the cable through the trigger up via the loading latch and out the action. You can get the cable in woodies or any good DIY

clivej

4. During transport, firearms must always be stored
in a case/sleeve, out of sight in a locked vehicle
boot. They should not be immediately accessible
to the driver or any passenger.

5. No gun should be loaded with ammunition while
travelling to or from a shoot.

6. Where possible, rifle bolts and shotgun fore ends,
pistol top slides and magazines should be
removed and kept separately.

7. A firearm should never be left inside the seating
area of a vehicle: whether occupied or
unattended.

8. If it is necessary to stop and leave the vehicle,
reasonable steps should be taken to ensure the
safety of the firearm in question. It is a good idea
to also place in the boot anything which might
indicate that a firearm may be in the vehicle e.g.
hunting clothing, stalking stick, hunting knife,
binoculars, decoys, hunting hat etc.

lordarpad

I love #5! Amazingly enough i have read stories from German hunters who, coming back from hunting picked up their gun in the car and shot straight through the car door and into the wall of their house!

Who on earth doesn't unload a gun before entering the car?

Sparks

lordarpad wrote: »

Who on earth doesn't unload a gun before entering the car?

You do hear horror stories about firearms with full clips inserted, not just in transit, but in safes, in dealers gun rooms, on the rack at the range, and so on -- usually followed by reiterating rule number 2 (all guns are loaded).
It's like they tell you when you start learning to drive - don't just assume all other drivers are bad drivers who drive like highly aggressive idiots, know that they are (and drive accordingly)

Thios Mean Intleacht

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Grizzly 45

lordarpad wrote: »

I love #5! Amazingly enough i have read stories from German hunters who, coming back from hunting picked up their gun in the car and shot straight through the car door and into the wall of their house!

Who on earth doesn't unload a gun before entering the car?

Proably because in Germany,you can use a vechicle for stalking in your reserve.So it is quite acceptable to have a loaded gun in the vechicle ,but not to shoot from it.So its quite possible that somone will forget to unload their gun.:eek::(

243Xpress

You need to be careful.In my work contract it states the bringing weapons or ammunition to your place of work would be grounds for dismissal.This is probably in most work contracts.

FISMA

lordarpad wrote: »

Hi guys
does anybody know the rules for having my gun in my car at work with intent of going directly to the range after work? How do people handle that?

lordarpad,
I think it is a bad idea to have the gun unattended in your car an an even worse idea to bring it in to work.

First, you would be surprised at how fast and far word travels. Once people know that your car has a firearm, I would not be surprised when she is stolen or broken into. It is just an invitation for theft.

Bringing the firearm in to work announces to the world that you have a item coveted by criminals. Even if the people you work with are sound, they are only a few conversations within criminal earshot.

You'll probably develop a pattern, like shooting on Fridays or having in the car during the season. Once they get your pattern down, it will not be safe.

If you really have to take it to work, you better have a lot of extra driving or inconvenience to go through to warrant having it on you. How far, time/dist, are you going to be put out of your way?

Consider the conversation you are going to have with the Gardai if it gets stolen and how they will view your wanting to have it in the car.

This is only my opinion, but the less people that know you have a gun, the better.

Slan

lordarpad

It's not like I tell people that I have a gun in my car ...

derek_g34

You never know what a fella might be carrying in his laptop bag;)

Irish_Elect_Eng

One word of warning:

Two Multinationals that I have worked for have had instant dismissal policies for bringing any weapon onto company property (Incl. Car-Parks).

I only remember it happening once, for a Muppet that bought a sword in to show to a friend, was seen waving it around the car-park and fired on the spot.

So,please be careful,with your career as well as your gun.

2011

Irish_Elect_Eng wrote: »

One word of warning:

Two Multinationals that I have worked for have had instant dismissal policies for bringing any weapon onto company property (Incl. Car-Parks).

Snap.
I worked for a well known american pharmaceutical company and this was clearly stated in my contract.

ace86

2011 wrote: »

Snap.
I worked for a well known american pharmaceutical company and this was clearly stated in my contract.

Work for a Pharmaceutical company myself and must look into my contract or the plant agreement as they call it to see what it says but it would be definite grounds for dismissal i be thinking to carry any weapon on site.

Sparks

You guys wouldn't seriously show up to work with a firearm in tow without talking to your manager first, would you?
I mean, come on.
Some things you'd think wouldn't need saying.

Irish_Elect_Eng

Sparks wrote: »

You guys wouldn't seriously show up to work with a firearm in tow without talking to your manager first, would you?
I mean, come on.
Some things you'd think wouldn't need saying.

Perhaps, but working for a multi even your manager would not have the authority to grant you permission. If a co-worker ever found out, the manager would get sacked also.

I agree only a foll would bring a gun onto a work site without asking, but I would not expect any sort of positive response if the company is a multi, H&S rule supreme in those environments.

Sparks

If your manager wouldn't have the authority to grant permission (as mine didn't), they'd know who would and how likely it would be to be granted and what would happen if you showed up with the firearm and without permission (as mine did). I can't see anyone who made it to manager level in a multi giving permission without authority, any more than I can see a politician making a publicly unpopular decision because it was the right thing to do