NCT Backed Down on this one

kincaid

ok spoke to a guy today that said he purchased a 2004 car several months ago and got a booking date for nct..
anyway car has not been tested by previous owner for 18 months or so and got a cert for the vehicle when passed the nct which would expire in 6 months time and explained it was not his fault it was not tested and why should he be punished for other person etc as he now the new owner..
he contacted his solicitor stating the facts and took it further has now got the full 2 years cert on his car..

antocann

tbh ,
what the guy would of paid for a solicitor , it would of been just easyer to test it again

Jimdagym

How much did the solicitor cost?
More than €50 which is how much a test would have cost in 3 months time anyway, i'd imagine.

kirving

Back-dating a mechanical test is ridiculous. I know it's to force people to pay, but if the goal of the test is to increase safety, why charge people at all?

Jimdagym

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Back-dating a mechanical test is ridiculous. I know it's to force people to pay, but if the goal of the test is to increase safety, why charge people at all?

I Didn't think it was backdated, just the expiry date doesn't change.

kirving

Oh ok, but it still makes a mockery of the test that one day it's valid for 6 months, and another day it's valid for two years. It should be free, and the cost incorporated into motor tax.

Guy:Incognito

Kevin Irving wrote: »

It should be free, and the cost incorporated into motor tax.

How would that be free? Your just shifting the way you pay for it.

kincaid

@antocann...think it was the principle of it rather than the money, ( and fair play to him for taking a stand) he use to live in the Uk Where you would get a 12 months from the date of completed test regardless of how long it was out of test before,,,, it seems a more reasonable system in the UK when you think about it..
it seems like screwing more money out of the people for the nct centres with their silly backdating...

mickdw

kincaid wrote: »

ok spoke to a guy today that said he purchased a 2004 car several months ago and got a booking date for nct..
anyway car has not been tested by previous owner for 18 months or so and got a cert for the vehicle when passed the nct which would expire in 6 months time and explained it was not his fault it was not tested and why should he be punished for other person etc as he now the new owner..
he contacted his solicitor stating the facts and took it further has now got the full 2 years cert on his car..

Im going to call bull**** on this.

I cannot see how he would ever manage to get a cert that didnt run out on anniversary of registration as this would cause much confusion and tbh buyers would run away from it if this was the case as it would be a one off.
I think there is a large amount of bull**** in the story and I cant see why the rules would have to be or even could be changed for a one off case without at least testing it in court.
So he originally tested the car 6 months before reg. anniversary. Perhaps with all the messing with solicitors, 3 months passed which brought the car into the 3 months from where it was eligible for a 27 month cert. If this was the case perhaps he toook the car in again to nct people who retested it and I would think at most, waived the test fee as a goodwill gesture to put an end to the legal wrangling.
The important question here is - Does the cert run out on anniversary date of the car still?

Del2005

kincaid wrote: »

@antocann...think it was the principle of it rather than the money, ( and fair play to him for taking a stand) he use to live in the Uk Where you would get a 12 months from the date of completed test regardless of how long it was out of test before,,,, it seems a more reasonable system in the UK when you think about it..
it seems like screwing more money out of the people for the nct centres with their silly backdating...

The UK MOT is not a system to advocate for vehicle testing. It's riddled with corruption and fake documents, at least with ours there's only a little in it.

The NCT centres are not doing people out of money they are doing themselves out of money. The rules are clear that's it's tested on it's 4th birthday and every 2 years after that till it's 10, or 6/3 months early, and gets a 2 year cert. You can get a 30 or 27 month test for €50 if you prepare, can you do that in the UK?

If people aren't willing to spend €50 on a basic safety check I'd query their more important safety work and walk away.

shawnee

Del2005 wrote: »

The UK MOT is not a system to advocate for vehicle testing. It's riddled with corruption and fake documents, at least with ours there's only a little in it.

The NCT centres are not doing people out of money they are doing themselves out of money. The rules are clear that's it's tested on it's 4th birthday and every 2 years after that till it's 10, or 6/3 months early, and gets a 2 year cert. You can get a 30 or 27 month test for €50 if you prepare, can you do that in the UK?

If people aren't willing to spend €50 on a basic safety check I'd query their more important safety work and walk away.

You are merely quoting the rules of the NCT, however there is clearly anomoly and I can understand the man's annoyance at taking a car for NCT and passing it and then being told he would have to take it again in six months time. The NCT is not just about the cost , for many it can also mean inconvenience and the loss of work.. Fair play to the person who challenged it and won...

corktina

if he did... obviously he would have known there was no NCT when he bought it and should have taken the situation into account rather than moaning wehen he only got a short cert. I dont think this holds water, I believe it when I see evidence, meantime its filed with the other stories under the title "a man in the pub told me"

kincaid

I cant be sure if this is true or not, just what he told me but was interested to hear other opinions etc..
i know the mot test in MAINLAND UK is done at private garages where things can be overlooked but in Northern Ireland its carried out at the DVA's own test centres and they have got very tight in recent times as i myself and friends got few cars tested and they let nothing away at present believe me..

Del2005

shawnee wrote: »

You are merely quoting the rules of the NCT, however there is clearly anomoly and I can understand the man's annoyance at taking a car for NCT and passing it and then being told he would have to take it again in six months time. The NCT is not just about the cost , for many it can also mean inconvenience and the loss of work.. Fair play to the person who challenged it and won...

The anomaly is that the person bought a car without it having passed the most basic safety check. If the last owner isn't willing to spend €50 to prove their car is safe I again question their maintenance of the car.

Also since it's back and white about the dates of the car test and how long it's valid for then the person should have either not bothered testing the car for 6 months or factored the €100 off the sale of the car for the 2 tests. The NCT for all it's faults is at least clear on how long and when a test is due.

Coming along and moaning about only getting a 6 month pass cert means they didn't do enough research before buying the car.