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...a quick drive in........a new Alfa Giulietta....

  • 14-08-2011 10:55pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭


    ...because I have a new motto: Never Say No To Free Stuff.........I've been tootling around in a new Alfa Giulietta for the last two days :) , and it goes back tomorrow..... :(

    God have new cars improved. I'd forgotten by how much. This car is beautiful to look at on the outside, but the inside is even better (imho). It's not Audi for solidity, but has that special lightness-of-foot that just makes you want to drive it all the time.

    Indeed, I have just spent the last hour-and-a-half driving it..........nowhere in particular, on a dark and wet night.......because it's a hoot. I don't know what it is that Alfa's do to people, but I've never felt the same compunction to drive a Golf, or a Toyota, or a Nissan........even a hot one.

    As soon as I came home........Mrs Gtt took it out........and she's been gone for 40 minutes so far.........the last car that made me want to do that had '911' on the rear bootlid..........

    So, what's it like to actually drive ? Well, it's a (very) torquey, powerful, smooth 170bhp Hot Hatch, with a nice touch of Class. Lovely heated, perforated charcoal leather seats, with contrasting red stitching, incl the logo on headrest's...........powerful climate control that's not too noisy. A sound system that ........gives sound........with auto volume level (goes up as you speed up...).

    Lovely light gearchange, progressive brakes.

    The doors close with a nice 'thud', the bonnet and rear hatch less so.........but I could care less, tbh.

    Like many new cars, the road noise is a function of the very large tyres and diabolical road surfaces.......so a comparison run on the new M6 showed it to be a lovely quiet interior.

    Clocks, dials, switchs all have a loveliness that the Mini tries for, but fails....while the Alfa pulls it off.

    Nice LED lights to front and rear, twin exhausts (but no parking sensor's.........strange, that.....) and the rear window has a hint of Brevia about it's lower edge.

    The seats have full electric fore/aft, height and recline, and 3 memories as well, and the height adjustment was particularly great in range.

    I found the driving position lovely for me, but someone taller than I I know finds the seat squab short.........tough, baby !! :p

    Compared to a VAG I drive a lot, it's much more refined. I don't think it'll be as light on juice, though, but previous experience with the 150bhp version of that engine would support my view that it will be more reliable.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    some pics......black wouldn't be my first choice, but it's nice on this car nonetheless.......

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Does it still have that feeling that only Italian and British cars come with that something is going to fail/break/falloff/not do what it's meant to do feeling that they have come with for generations and still feel like it's fun???????????:D

    I keep hearing people repeat the negative comments the journalists say but when I drove it I thought it was great. In fact I'd be willing to put the credit unions money where my mouth is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Forgot to add: the Alfa DNA.

    I thought this some clever marketing gimmick.......Vorsprung Durch Italian, as it were.........what it actually is, is..........a 3-map power switch on the dash.

    D for Dynamic
    N for.....Normal
    A for....Allweather.

    A prompts short shifting etc etc, for snow I gather.......
    N is normal mode, and again prompts for upshifts quite low down....for economy
    D is for..........Yeah Baby !!...........coming down an off-ramp, I toggled from N to D...........and it was as if I had changed down a gear, such was the marked difference in response. Coming off roundabout's etc, it made a huge difference, and I daresay it would become the Mode of Choice, if you owned it.........lovely, lovely, lovely......

    Despite this, and spitting rain, I found no mad understeer, and no impromptu flashhing of ESP etc and no hint of torquesteer. Dunno how they did that, but it seems to work.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    Does it still have that feeling that only Italian and British cars come with that something is going to fail/break/falloff/not do what it's meant to do feeling that they have come with for generations and still feel like it's fun???????????:D

    I keep hearing people repeat the negative comments the journalists say but when I drove it I thought it was great. In fact I'd be willing to put the credit unions money where my mouth is

    Tbh, no - I thought the dash etc very well screwed together, and door handles etc seemed well fixed as well. Looking under the bonnet revealed it to be v.similar to my Saab............which is at it should be........and the turbo is right at top, front of the engine, which should bode well for both cooling and servicing.

    Even access to gearchange linkage seemed quite straightforward.......as I had been looking at same on a Golf earlier today, it was just something I remarked on.

    I didn't hear a strange rattle, thump or vibe the whole time, so I can't say I suspect anything to go any more awry than on any other car I've driven........

    [edit] and another thing.......has a good-sized boot and - horror of horror's ! - a spare wheel !! Whatever will they think of next !! ?? Henry Ford Focus eat your heart out !!

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Alfa were a brand I was always aware of, but never interested in, because of their reputation. But while on the lookout for a good economical car thats cheap to run but nice and with lots of toys...Alfa were the only choice.

    Yes the electrics are mad (cruise control wont work all the time, my rear fog light fails regularly, to come back instantly, fuel gauge goes fully empty to fully full to correct constantly), but its a very nice, quick (for a car id view as being very low-cost), comfortable car with every extra you could really want (bar leather).

    I'll definitely be buying Alfa again...too much spec for too little money!
    The Giulietta is gorgeous!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Alfas look a lot better built these days. Back in the 156 days you could see how things didn't fit together right.

    Looks wise I have to admit the Giulietta looks like a bit of a pig in a poke to me, moreso at the front, which is disappointing considering most Alfas are beauts.

    Haven't driven one tho, but no doubt it's as good as you say it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭georgefalls


    Having owned my first Alfa, a 166, for the last 18 months. I have to say, its gorgeous. It is the only car I have ever owned that actually cries for you to drive it. Every time you look out out the window at it, you can hear it, whispering, "drive me, drive me please come and drive me..!"
    There is no escape from this constant nagging, like a supermodel you can't ignore it. The only cure is to go out and drive. Which is exactly what I do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    galwaytt wrote: »
    The doors close with a nice 'thud'

    Like a Golf? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭zinzan


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Forgot to add: the Alfa DNA.

    I thought this some clever marketing gimmick.......Vorsprung Durch Italian, as it were.........what it actually is, is..........a 3-map power switch on the dash.

    D for Dynamic
    N for.....Normal
    A for....Allweather.

    A prompts short shifting etc etc, for snow I gather.......
    N is normal mode, and again prompts for upshifts quite low down....for economy
    D is for..........Yeah Baby !!...........coming down an off-ramp, I toggled from N to D...........and it was as if I had changed down a gear, such was the marked difference in response. Coming off roundabout's etc, it made a huge difference, and I daresay it would become the Mode of Choice, if you owned it.........lovely, lovely, lovely......

    Despite this, and spitting rain, I found no mad understeer, and no impromptu flashhing of ESP etc and no hint of torquesteer. Dunno how they did that, but it seems to work.

    Hope it's better than the silly(sele)speed... after ~60,000 miles our 147 refused to find a gear, resulting in approx 6 months back and forth to garage - twice I got the 'yes it's fixed this time' and didn't even get home before problem arose again.. letters and phone calls to Alfa Ireland and Italy finally resulted in a new gearbox and actuator being fitted before it was driveable again.
    Oh and the seat ratchet broke - got a replacement on ebay for €25 - Alfa wanted ~200 for it. Took the old one apart and the entire seat lifting mechanism relies on a small plastic cog to lift it.. every other part of it is metal but the plastic bit that failed... go figure.

    So when it works, it really makes the blood pump, when it's not working it really makes the blood boil!

    It would take a lot to get us to buy a new Alfa!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    Alfa's are like a mistress really. Great fun to ride around in but by **** will it hurt your pocket eventually.

    That said still dont think I'd drive anything other than an Alfa (despite my OHs constant requests to get rid of it :) )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    zinzan wrote: »
    Hope it's better than the silly(sele)speed... after ~60,000 miles our 147 refused to find a gear, resulting in approx 6 months back and forth to garage - twice I got the 'yes it's fixed this time' and didn't even get home before problem arose again.. letters and phone calls to Alfa Ireland and Italy finally resulted in a new gearbox and actuator being fitted before it was driveable again.
    Oh and the seat ratchet broke - got a replacement on ebay for €25 - Alfa wanted ~200 for it. Took the old one apart and the entire seat lifting mechanism relies on a small plastic cog to lift it.. every other part of it is metal but the plastic bit that failed... go figure.

    So when it works, it really makes the blood pump, when it's not working it really makes the blood boil!

    It would take a lot to get us to buy a new Alfa!

    LOL, you think that's bad ? That's just a seat.......at least the engines are top notch. Which is more than can be said for another Italian mfr of motoring devices......Aprilia.......and which has my heart broken as well: I mean, a plastic OIL PUMP gear........ffs! More, here... http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193038

    miju wrote: »
    Alfa's are like a mistress really. Great fun to ride around in but by **** will it hurt your pocket eventually.

    That said still dont think I'd drive anything other than an Alfa (despite my OHs constant requests to get rid of it :) )

    I hear you, but given they are so cheap to buy anyway (used), I don't see the cost being an issue tbh. Cheap to buy, cheap to sell, fun in the meantime.

    How un-Golf ?

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    mtb_kng wrote: »
    Like a Golf? :D

    Indeed !! :D Some thing's about VAG's, I love. (where to you think my 'moniker' comes from ) ?

    The Superb , for instance :p:p

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Was a away for a weekend a few weeks ago where we had hired cars to get around. Was expecting a Ford Focus, went out side and seen one of these, instantly I wished I had volunteered to do the driving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭PaddyFagan


    Damn you TT - I've been looking at these with envy for a while - and had just about convinced myself that it would be asking for trouble - but now..... git.

    Paddy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭Mar4ix


    Id say most cars are grate when NEW, but when they start falling apart, we get a lot bad comments.
    Same like older generations of alfas, ..... to be honest.. never drove any, but from people who owned, got very good comments ... comfort, power, nice looking .... (actually what most people looking at), BUT.... when time coming for repairs(here we go for bad comments), it is very expensive and complicated..... most people sold Alfas for silly cheap money or scrapped, cos it didnt worth to be repaired.
    Id love try drive alfa, but not own it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Mar4ix wrote: »
    Id say most cars are grate when NEW, but when they start falling apart, we get a lot bad comments.
    Same like older generations of alfas, ..... to be honest.. never drove any, but from people who owned, got very good comments ... comfort, power, nice looking .... (actually what most people looking at), BUT.... when time coming for repairs(here we go for bad comments), it is very expensive and complicated..... most people sold Alfas for silly cheap money or scrapped, cos it didnt worth to be repaired.
    Id love try drive alfa, but not own it.

    Well my experience is the opposite -I used to have the older Giulietta, and that never gave any major grief to me. An errant indicator stalk, yes, and I repainted it after a few years.

    Not saying they're perfect - but repair bills weren't any more or less than any other brand I've had.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Mar4ix wrote: »
    Id say most cars are grate when NEW, but when they start falling apart, we get a lot bad comments.
    Same like older generations of alfas, ..... to be honest.. never drove any, but from people who owned, got very good comments ... comfort, power, nice looking .... (actually what most people looking at), BUT.... when time coming for repairs(here we go for bad comments), it is very expensive and complicated..... most people sold Alfas for silly cheap money or scrapped, cos it didnt worth to be repaired.
    Id love try drive alfa, but not own it.
    You need to price parts up for a Passat to know what expensive is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭Mar4ix


    in garage where i was working, got alfa 146 with snapped timebelt. .. got it for 100 euro .... management decided split in parts... sold wheels and lights... and rest went in scrap.... with passat would be different story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Mar4ix wrote: »
    in garage where i was working, got alfa 146 with snapped timebelt. .. got it for 100 euro .... management decided split in parts... sold wheels and lights... and rest went in scrap.... with passat would be different story.
    That's got to do with public perception that an old Passat with with high mileage is worth putting the expensive parts into in order to re-sell it to some mug who is willing to pay too much for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭OuterBombie


    Nice but...
    you didn't happen to be driving kinvara to galway city on friday evening by any chance?

    I was an came up on one of these going a tad slowly with full fog lights on, the only reason why ( that I could ascertain, cause it wasn't foggy ;) ) was too keep drivers back at distance! as the rear fogs are savage bright and pretty blinding if you get closer than 3 car lengths :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭166man


    Having owned my first Alfa, a 166, for the last 18 months. I have to say, its gorgeous. It is the only car I have ever owned that actually cries for you to drive it. Every time you look out out the window at it, you can hear it, whispering, "drive me, drive me please come and drive me..!"
    There is no escape from this constant nagging, like a supermodel you can't ignore it. The only cure is to go out and drive. Which is exactly what I do.

    Which 166 have you got if you don't mind me asking?Stunning car and far more reliable than many people think...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    166man wrote: »
    Which 166 have you got if you don't mind me asking?Stunning car and far more reliable than many people think...

    I also had a 166, a 99 2.0. Very comfortable car and a car that you could still throw into a bend and felt nice to control. I had it at 3 years old with tiny mileage and it cost a fortune to keep on the road. Would be a hell of a lot easier to run one now though as used parts/breaker cars are common. There was nothing to be had outside dealer (or occasionally uk breaker) when I had it.
    It was reliable though and electrically very good, just as I said parts were expensive and alfa didnt seem to make it any easier as I always seemed to have to buy a whole assembly instead of just a small wear item.
    Stuff like rear wheel bearing €200 for the part
    Anti roll bar bushes not available without the bar, etc.
    Always needing to buy complete control arms, seldom bushes to be got seperately.
    The radio/ics was priced at over €2000, luckily a new battery cured that.
    Wouldnt mind running one now though, bought cheaply and perhaps doing something with front suspension to stop the sump banging off the ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭166man


    mickdw wrote: »
    I also had a 166, a 99 2.0. Very comfortable car and a car that you could still throw into a bend and felt nice to control. I had it at 3 years old with tiny mileage and it cost a fortune to keep on the road. Would be a hell of a lot easier to run one now though as used parts/breaker cars are common. There was nothing to be had outside dealer (or occasionally uk breaker) when I had it.
    It was reliable though and electrically very good, just as I said parts were expensive and alfa didnt seem to make it any easier as I always seemed to have to buy a whole assembly instead of just a small wear item.
    Stuff like rear wheel bearing €200 for the part
    Anti roll bar bushes not available without the bar, etc.
    Always needing to buy complete control arms, seldom bushes to be got seperately.
    The radio/ics was priced at over €2000, luckily a new battery cured that.
    Wouldnt mind running one now though, bought cheaply and perhaps doing something with front suspension to stop the sump banging off the ground.

    My old man bought one new in 2004 with the 2.0 engine and kept it for six years. Engine gearbox, clutch etc all ran perfectly for 135k!Never had a problem although it ate back tyres and enjoyed an occasional drop of oil. It was black with beige interior and the best car he has ever owned! Biggest problem with it was soft suspension and all the small things that went wrong cost a fortune to replace!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    166man wrote: »
    My old man bought one new in 2004 with the 2.0 engine and kept it for six years. Engine gearbox, clutch etc all ran perfectly for 135k!Never had a problem although it ate back tyres and enjoyed an occasional drop of oil. It was black with beige interior and the best car he has ever owned! Biggest problem with it was soft suspension and all the small things that went wrong cost a fortune to replace!
    Mine ate back tyres, only after I let one of the tyre franchise places do my wheel alignment. dealer fixed that though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Hotwheels


    Nice review Galwaytt haven't had a spin in one yet, but the 170 sounds like fun...I'll stick with the 159 for now... :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 yoyo123


    I've been driving a Giulietta since Feb this year and I have to say I love it, the looks it gets are mad and really feeling the Alfa Love.
    The lusso model hasnt given me any problems at all, and from coming from always having a saloon car with a big boot I could get used to the size of the Giulietta.
    I'd love to have a spin in the old model Giulietta if anyone has one, to see the vast changes that have come along in the years, if anyone has one in the Leinster area.

    I'd deffo recommend the new model Giulietta to anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭Ardennes1944


    there were a load of these in Rome and they really do look fantastic, seeing the rear lights in the distance at night is a nice sight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭eljono


    Alfa's reputation for reliability and customer satisfaction in the UK has been growing steadily. Good article in this link which gets it's figures from the JD Power survey. Alfa share joint tenth with VW and Toyota.

    http://www.businesscar.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=7731&c=2&theme=0

    The top 20:

    1. Lexus – 84.5%
    2. Honda – 83.3%
    3. Jaguar – 82.5%
    3. Skoda – 82.5%
    5. MINI – 82.2%
    6. Mercedes-Benz – 82.1%
    7. BMW – 81.7%
    8. Audi – 81.2%
    9. Volvo – 81.1%
    10. Alfa Romeo – 80.5%
    10. Toyota – 80.5%
    10. Volkswagen – 80.5%
    13. Nissan – 80.2%
    14. Land Rover – 80.1%
    15. Mazda – 79.9%
    16. Hyundai – 79.2%
    16. Saab – 79.2%
    18. Citroen – 79%
    18 Ford – 79%
    20. Kia – 78.3%


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    galwaytt wrote: »
    D for Dynamic
    N for.....Normal
    A for....Allweather.



    DNA


    National Dyslexics Association ! :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Mar4ix wrote: »
    in garage where i was working, got alfa 146 with snapped timebelt. .. got it for 100 euro .... management decided split in parts... sold wheels and lights... and rest went in scrap.... with passat would be different story.

    ..you're right, at the Passat would have been worth more as scrap as well. Even in death, eh, VAG marketing hard at work... :p

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭mumblin deaf ro


    I have just got back from two weeks in the Lizard peninsula in Cornwall where I drove our rental Giulietta for about 800 miles around serpentine country roads, over moors and along rugged coastline.

    It is a good little car, nimble around roads where you're seldom driving in a straight line for long; it was fine on narrow single-lane muddy country lanes; and its comfort and stability etc was all fine on motorway. All the essentials - acceleration, braking, handling - were fine. Inside, it was a high spec and if it were marketed well could steal customers from mini; however, the various buttons and controls weren't intuitive and were over-fussy. Interior storage wasn't great and the boot seemed much, much lighter than the doors so you never really felt it was closing properly. Also rear and over-the-shoulder visibility isn't great.

    Overall, it was a really good all-rounder - I was expecting a good looking car which was a bit of fun, but it drove well in every circumstance. I don't really like the look of it from the front, although maybe I'm too used to the 'botox big cat' look of modern cars. I didn't test the limit of its driving abilities as I was afraid of killing my family on precipitous roads and scratching the rental in the process, so that will have to be tested by a better driver than me.


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