Pace PC10 Tyres

theblade

How ye all
Has anyone bought any of these I wonder? I bought a 07 520d BMW there a while ago of a Cowboy Dealer in Dublin. Long story short.... When I went to collect the car it had different wheels with shagged tyres on it. He sent me to a tyre place in Dublin and they put these yokes on it. There is a massive vibration coming from the rear of the car that seems to resonate for a period and come and go depending on speed. There fine on a regular road but on the motorway its unbearible. I brought it to my local guy and he says they are all balanced perfect front and rear. I cant find much on the internet about them. But I found a lot of "dont buy Chinese made tyres" Out the front door I go and sure as hell Made in China on the side wall of them. Size is 245/50/17. As i said perfect on a normal road but would drive you mental on the motorway. Anyone having this problem???

Nissan doctor

Did your guy remove and re-balance the wheels? As there is no other way of telling if they are 'balanced perfect'.

The E60 5 series is very prone to worn rear bushes/balljoints, has anyone checked these?

When you say they are fine on a normal road but bad on the motorway, is it speed related? i.e the vibration starting above a certain speed etc.

theblade

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Did your guy remove and re-balance the wheels? As there is no other way of telling if they are 'balanced

The E60 5 series is very prone to worn rear bushes/balljoints, has anyone checked these?

When you say they are fine on a normal road but bad on the motorway, is it speed related? i.e the vibration starting above a certain speed etc.

Yes he rebalanced all four wheels from scratch. Went for spin and still had wobble through steering wheel. Then he swapped fronts to rear and the wobble was gone. I went for long spin yesterday and noticed this on the motorway coming from the rear. The car was in for NCT last Saturday and passed with flying colours. Surly if a ball joint was gone it would have showed up. Had to do droplinks all round and trackrod ends all right before it went in. My tyre guy reckons it's the tyre as he said they are not great and sometimes you get this vibration as they are out of round when they are made. They are crap in the wet and if you stamp on the loud pedal in the wet the traction control kicks in straight away. I think getting proper branded Tyres will be the only fix. Did a lot of looking on the net and the general consensus is to steer clear of budget Tyres as they are rubbish. Very little info on these pace Tyres especially. The lad in the nct place said she was tight a a drum so it has to be that. If said cowboy left the wheels and Tyres on the car that was on it when I looked at it first there would be none of this. I think I might get my solicitor to have a word in his ear.

Nissan doctor

Well there isn't really a place for tyres like that on the likes of a 5 series, Even midrange tyres like Hankook or kumho would be a world better then the really cheap stuff.

If the vibration moved from front to rear when the wheels were swopped then its certainly a buckled wheel or dodgy tyre and presumably the wheels are ok if they have been balanced/checked. TBH I'd be looking at fitting better tyres regardless of the vibration issue.

theblade

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Well there isn't really a place for tyres like that on the likes of a 5 series, Even midrange tyres like Hankook or kumho would be a world better then the really cheap stuff.

If the vibration moved from front to rear when the wheels were swopped then its certainly a buckled wheel or dodgy tyre and presumably the wheels are ok if they have been balanced/checked. TBH I'd be looking at fitting better tyres regardless of the vibration issue.

Yeah I think that will be the way to go allright. I thought at first there was a buckled rim too. As I said my tyre guy says there crap and it's prob the tyre causing the problem. You would think the stones in dublin would think more of his reputation than to be putting muck like that on a car of that calibre. You could not be up to these boys at all. But I'm sure bolicky bill the dealer told him to put the cheapest ones he had on it. If he had gave me the option to put a few bob to it and put decent Tyres on it I would have done it at the time. Will get two for the back first anyways as the grip in the wet is brutal. I was thinking about it last night and I remember having pace Tyres on a tino I had. Took them off it after a very short period of time as they were useless in the wet. So a warning to anyone reading this avoid cheap Tyres like the plague. You will end up changing them for decent ones or you will end up through a hedge. You have been warned. @ Nissan doctor thAnks for your replies mate.

An Ri rua

I, unusually, allowed this Chinese sh*te onto my car, after using Conti Ecos and such like for the last 7 years on my Xantia Hdi. A guy I knew who was a parts manager said he'd swing a cheap deal for me. I stupidly (unlike me?) didn't question the brand as he said he only did the good stuff. As the parts manager is my BIL, I stayed schtum on my annoyance, as the tyre guys had said they knew how to replace bushings in a Xantia (its what they do) so I had let them. Turns out they hadn't a clue about much and had incorrectly replaced the height correctors in such a way that ride height was fixed high. Complete f*ckin ejits. Oh yeh, I can do that boss. No bother. Cost me 2 trips. One to them as they swore they knew how to adjust it. Another one 30 miles away to Freddie Vaugh, Ferbane who KNEW what he was at and was worth it. Cit for 40 years.

I'm replacing the Pace tyres all around this morning after I would think only 10,000 miles. Disgusted with that. But delighted to get them off the car. With 205s, I have pushed this car to the limit for years in corners and maybe got a quiver but never a slide. With these ****e skins, I have come closer to dying than I have since the times of my 205 XRAD when I was a 20 something mental case.

Going to get quality part worns as my car is 12 years old and, despite being well maintained, timing belt, camwheel, al spheres changed etc etc in last year, I still worry about the heater matrix. Going here this avo http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/carextras/3177417. Anyone got any strong preferences for Xantia 205 50 16 tyres? I used to use Conti Ecos but I don't do the big miles any more and they're not great in the wet apparently (I never found that though). http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/259582/tyre_test_2011.html

These part worns are all 5 mil up and pressure tested. I could of course get new Hankooks or Kumho?

Sorry for the hijack. But that's my PACE experience. Puke !!