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Shay Elliott - The Life and Death of Ireland's First Yellow Jersey

  • 12-08-2011 10:40am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭


    Now available in Easons and Hodges Figgis, aswell as Amazon


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,972 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Anyone read this? It's getting great press exposure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 546 ✭✭✭elduggo


    I have. Its ok. You'll enjoy it if you like cycling. If you're only moderately interested in cycling, or only half-informed on the sport it might be a bit tough going. Very much along the lines of (and I paraphrase) 'he did this race and came 3rd, won that race, rode some crits to earn some money, worked hard in the other race'.

    Its a little bit light on the details of the personal story behind the man, particularly during his cycling years, but I reckon is a must-read for any Irish cycling fan.

    The chapters about the Dublin Wheelers are my personal favourites!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,972 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Just looking at the other thread there on good cycling books and seeing recommendations for David Millar's book. I quite fancy reading it but I'm not sure if I want to fork out 20 notes for it (or whatever it costs) considering the primary reason his book is on the shelves is because he doped and was caught. I'm a bit turned off by the fact that he'll profit from my buying his book, as a result of his cheating... if you get me.

    So having said that (bear with me, I'm coming to a point :)) - if I want to spend my hard earned on this Shay Elliot book, about an Irish rider, and in support of an Irish writer - where's the best place to lay my money down? - From the writer's point of view. Take Eason's Hodges whatever and Amazon, as listed above. Who's the most benevolent middle man out of those three, in terms of ultimate kick-back to the lad who wrote the book? Anyone here in the publishing business? :).

    Seriously, I'm sure it's a long and arduous labour-of-love writing a book about what is quite a niche topic, and a (relatively) minority sport. Should I stroll into Eason's with my tenner, or dial up amazon.com?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭el tel


    Screw amazon, easons, borrow it from the library for free, remember the credit crunch is still on.

    Miller's book will be in Bargain Books for 3 quid within 6 months.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 546 ✭✭✭elduggo


    fat bloke wrote: »
    Just looking at the other thread there on good cycling books and seeing recommendations for David Millar's book. I quite fancy reading it but I'm not sure if I want to fork out 20 notes for it (or whatever it costs) considering the primary reason his book is on the shelves is because he doped and was caught. I'm a bit turned off by the fact that he'll profit from my buying his book, as a result of his cheating... if you get me.

    So having said that (bear with me, I'm coming to a point :)) - if I want to spend my hard earned on this Shay Elliot book, about an Irish rider, and in support of an Irish writer - where's the best place to lay my money down? - From the writer's point of view. Take Eason's Hodges whatever and Amazon, as listed above. Who's the most benevolent middle man out of those three, in terms of ultimate kick-back to the lad who wrote the book? Anyone here in the publishing business? :).

    Seriously, I'm sure it's a long and arduous labour-of-love writing a book about what is quite a niche topic, and a (relatively) minority sport. Should I stroll into Eason's with my tenner, or dial up amazon.com?


    Its a non-argument. Elliott doped as well. I enjoyed the Millar book more because its more recent and knew who the main protagonists were. Not so in the case of the Elliott book but he was someone I've known very little about, despite his obvious stature. Sean Kelly admits as much too in the foreword.

    Get both. You'll enjoy them both, but for different reasons. Its apples and oranges in terms of comparison but having read both I'd say I enjoyed Millar's book a little bit more than the Elliott one. Its the difference between someone telling their own warts-and-all story and someone else telling a retrospective tale about someone using second-hand information. Obviously the former case is going to be more revealing and of greater depth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,972 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    elduggo wrote: »
    Its a non-argument. Elliott doped as well.

    Elliot's not profiting from my paying to read about it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭manwithaplan




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 546 ✭✭✭elduggo


    fat bloke wrote: »
    Elliot's not profiting from my paying to read about it though.

    well if your motives are purely altruistic then go for the Elliott book. I'd imagine Millar will sell plenty of copies of his book and thus earn plenty of cash from it. The target audience for the Elliott book is probably somewhat more niche and was likely to have been an undertaking for the author borne more out of personal ambition (and wishing to pay respect to a great man/rider) than of profit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 546 ✭✭✭elduggo




    great stuff. Your second post will make a lot of the book seem very familiar to you. And, your neighbour is mentioned/name-checked in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭ckeego


    el tel wrote: »
    Screw amazon, easons, borrow it from the library for free, remember the credit crunch is still on.

    Very true.

    Miller's book will be in Bargain Books for 3 quid within 6 months.:pac:

    Doubt it!:) It's a very good book indeed...I got it for a tenner on Amazon though..Like an up to date Breaking the Chain..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,972 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Just got around to reading this over the last week or so.

    I'm absolutely gobsmacked at the career this guy had and how little I knew about him by comparison. An astonishing Irish sportsman.

    Great book too, it comes across as meticulously, forensically well researched. Well, well worth a read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭greenmat




    Great upload, have only read about Shay Elliot recently, an amazing athlete, such as pity his life ended the way it did. Below is a great article about Shay life from Bray Wheelers site. Hope it ok to post this here.

    http://www.braywheelers.com/downloads/Shayjf.pdf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭mediwheel


    Anybody know anything about the circumstances of his death ? Is there much about it in the book, I think he was only 36 ? Very young !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭greenmat


    Read the article attached to my earlier post, covered in that. Very sad end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭mediwheel


    greenmat wrote: »
    Read the article attached to my earlier post, covered in that. Very sad end.
    Thanks for that, tragic alright !


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