All Ireland Soccer Team

Leroy Lita

what do ye reckon an All Ireland Soccer team would look like?
id reckon it would basically be the Republic team with Johnny Evans in defence. maybe Steven Davis in midfield? what other North players would even be in the squad? Baird, Hughes, Lafferty and McCourt would probaly be the only ones with Evans and Davis.

wouldnt say an All Ireland team would be much an improvement on the Republic team?

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Wouldn't be worth the hassle, imo.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

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Shay Given

John O'Shea - Richard Dunne - Aaron Hughes - Jonny Evans

Seamus Coleman - James McCarthy - Steven Davis - Aidan McGeady

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Robbie Keane - Kevin Doyle

Kieran Westwood
Gareth McAuley
Chris Baird
Sean St Ledger
Damien Duff
Stephen Hunt
Glenn Whelan
Marc Wilson
Shane Long
Kyle Lafferty
Jon Walters

More chance of an an UK team IMO, which is unlikely in itself. But FIFA could put pressure on an amalgamation after the London Olympics because of the team GB football team and all that jazz.

Ebbs

How would games work?

When you need to keep two sets of home fans away from eachother...and more importantly the players...you should probably call it a day and hang up that idea.

Mr. Denton

Well this United team be playing out of Belfast too? Considering the IFA were there first and the FAI are merely the breakaway association.

Mr. Denton

sugarman wrote: »

The majority would obv be from ROI tho. But sure look at how many players we have from up North now anyways on our team!

It's just Gibson and Wilson in the senior squad and I wouldn't have lost any sleep if we had never even nabbed them in the first place. Do the North even miss them particularly either?

Father Damo

While Id have loved to see Paddy McCourt pull off his cracking run for the last goal in a republic jersey the fact is this- if we had a united team, I would have nothing to do with it unless our national anthem was played. None of this Irelands Call type bollix, the way the rugby team panders to stone age cocks in the north re the anthem is the main reason I have zero pride in any achievement by the rugby team (honestly- even sports which have little interest to me, golf for example, I feel good when McIlroy or Clarke do well, even the cricket despite having zero interest in it, but rugby until they stop the pandering I couldnt give two ****s if we whacked England 50-0 tomorrow, it has zero pride for me whatsoever). Mind you the fact I find union as boring as fcuk probably doesnt help (quite like league mind, its huge in Oz Ive got quite into it)
Unbelieveable as it is if we had a pandering football team in the same sense as the rugger team thats me finished with international Irish football.

celtictiger32

sugarman wrote: »

If they sort out a real stadium!

they could develop some of the national league stadiums too and play in some of them especially some of these friendlies 21,ooo or thereabouts wasnt it the other night for a top 10 ranked team?

besides i reckon the only player that would improve the ireland team would probably be paddy mc court sure, sure isnt all the better players declaring for us anyway

Fr Tod Umptious

Father Damo wrote: »

While Id have loved to see Paddy McCourt pull off his cracking run for the last goal in a republic jersey the fact is this- if we had a united team, I would have nothing to do with it unless our national anthem was played. None of this Irelands Call type bollix, the way the rugby team panders to stone age cocks in the north re the anthem is the main reason I have zero pride in any achievement by the rugby team (honestly- even sports which have little interest to me, golf for example, I feel good when McIlroy or Clarke do well, even the cricket despite having zero interest in it, but rugby until they stop the pandering I couldnt give two ****s if we whacked England 50-0 tomorrow, it has zero pride for me whatsoever). Mind you the fact I find union as boring as fcuk probably doesnt help (quite like league mind, its huge in Oz Ive got quite into it)
Unbelieveable as it is if we had a pandering football team in the same sense as the rugger team thats me finished with international Irish football.

I totally agree with you.

I do not support the Ireland rugby team beacuse they do not represent me and where I am from which is the Republic of Ireland, all 26 counties of it, no more, no less.

So if they do not fly the Irish tri-colour or play 'Amhrán na bhFiann' they may as well be Nepal as far as I am concerned.

If the Irish rugby team split like soccer did in the 1920s then I would care a bit more for them.

So no I would not like to see a united Ireland soccer team.

Fr Tod Umptious

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I totally agree with you.

I do not support the Ireland rugby team beacuse they do not represent me and where I am from which is the Republic of Ireland, all 26 counties of it, no more, no less.

So if they do not fly the Irish tri-colour or play 'Amhrán na bhFiann' they may as well be Nepal as far as I am concerned.

If the Irish rugby team split like soccer did in the 1920s then I would care a bit more for them.

So no I would not like to see a united Ireland soccer team.

They represent the Island of Ireland and have players from the whole Island. Not a massive rugby fan but support them 100% when they play. Strange attitude that just cause its not limited to the 26 counties you don't care.

Fr Tod Umptious

Deleted User wrote: »

They represent the Island of Ireland and have players from the whole Island. Not a massive rugby fan but support them 100% when they play. Strange attitude that just cause its not limited to the 26 counties you don't care.

I though it made it clear, I am from the Republic of Ireland, which consists of 26 counties on the island, the rest may as well be Nepal as far as I am concerned, what is confusing about that.

Fr Tod Umptious

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I though it made it clear, I am from the Republic of Ireland, which consists of 26 counties on the island, the rest may as well be Nepal as far as I am concerned, what is confusing about that.

That even though the majority of the squad are born in the republic of ireland you dont care about the team strange to me.

celticbest

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I totally agree with you.

I do not support the Ireland rugby team beacuse they do not represent me and where I am from which is the Republic of Ireland, all 26 counties of it, no more, no less.

So if they do not fly the Irish tri-colour or play 'Amhrán na bhFiann' they may as well be Nepal as far as I am concerned.

If the Irish rugby team split like soccer did in the 1920s then I would care a bit more for them.

So no I would not like to see a united Ireland soccer team.

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I though it made it clear, I am from the Republic of Ireland, which consists of 26 counties on the island, the rest may as well be Nepal as far as I am concerned, what is confusing about that.

:eek: Jebus, Fr Tod Umptious they sound like statements from Fr Ted..........

In my eyes Ireland is 32 counties not 26, I would never say I'm from the ROI, if anyone asks me I'm from Ireland.

'Amhrán na bhFiann' is the Anthem of the Majority of the People in the 32 counties of Ireland, however if for the benefit of the Island it is not played before an away fixture & as a result we have an All-Ireland team representing us I would take that every time......

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What happens to The League of Ireland and The Irish League in this scenario OP?

If the associations merge, do you suggest a merging of the leagues also? Please outline a plan for this, as you see it, thanks.

citytillidie

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

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Shay Given

John O'Shea - Richard Dunne - Aaron Hughes - Jonny Evans

Seamus Coleman - James McCarthy - Steven Davis - Aidan McGeady

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Robbie Keane - Kevin Doyle

Kieran Westwood
Gareth McAuley
Chris Baird
Sean St Ledger
Damien Duff
Stephen Hunt
Glenn Whelan
Marc Wilson
Shane Long
Kyle Lafferty
Jon Walters

More chance of an an UK team IMO, which is unlikely in itself. But FIFA could put pressure on an amalgamation after the London Olympics because of the team GB football team and all that jazz.

I would have McCourt before McGeady

Speak Now

Maybe our first match could be against an "All Korean soccer team"

Raskolnikov

This is a pointless debate. Even if the FAI, the clubs, and the fans were receptive to an all-Ireland team and league, Northern Ireland are completely opposed to the notion.

Mr. Denton

Probably be an actual United Ireland before there's a United Ireland team.

Raskolnikov

Mr. Denton wrote: »

Probably be an actual United Ireland before there's a United Ireland team.

That says it all really

Broxi_Bear_Eire

celticbest wrote: »

:eek: Jebus, Fr Tod Umptious they sound like statements from Fr Ted..........

In my eyes Ireland is 32 counties not 26, I would never say I'm from the ROI, if anyone asks me I'm from Ireland.

'Amhrán na bhFiann' is the Anthem of the Majority of the People in the 32 counties of Ireland, however if for the benefit of the Island it is not played before an away fixture & as a result we have an All-Ireland team representing us I would take that every time......

Jeez never thought I would thank one of your posts

Kidchameleon

Id be against it. NI is another country plain and simple. It would be the same as the Irish team joining forces with say, India.

jethro081

Father Damo wrote: »

While Id have loved to see Paddy McCourt pull off his cracking run for the last goal in a republic jersey the fact is this- if we had a united team, I would have nothing to do with it unless our national anthem was played. None of this Irelands Call type bollix, the way the rugby team panders to stone age cocks in the north re the anthem is the main reason I have zero pride in any achievement by the rugby team (honestly- even sports which have little interest to me, golf for example, I feel good when McIlroy or Clarke do well, even the cricket despite having zero interest in it, but rugby until they stop the pandering I couldnt give two ****s if we whacked England 50-0 tomorrow, it has zero pride for me whatsoever). Mind you the fact I find union as boring as fcuk probably doesnt help (quite like league mind, its huge in Oz Ive got quite into it)
Unbelieveable as it is if we had a pandering football team in the same sense as the rugger team thats me finished with international Irish football.

eem, they play Ireland's call before the cricket as well, so that argument can piss right off.

This kinda ****e really bothers me, how can you complain about "stone age cocks" when this argument of yours is as stone age as they come. Ireland's call is designed to serve a simple purpose, and that is to make the all Irish teams inclusive of people from non nationalist political backgrounds. Having a differing political viewpoint to you does not make some one a "stone age cock".

People having a problem with Ireland's call baffles me, especially as the same people were probably happy enough to see David Humphreys kick balls over the bar, or to see Rory Best perform well in a ruck. Its sectarian nonsense and nothing more.

Dub13

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Id be against it. NI is another country plain and simple. It would be the same as the Irish team joining forces with say, India.

I would not be the most nationalist person in the world,but to be honest your post is just silly.

Jayob10

citytillidie wrote: »

I would have McCourt before McGeady

you're taking the mick, McCourt can barely get into a poor NI side. Don't even get me started on his benefit to Celtic.

Laughable statement.

Jayob10

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Id be against it. NI is another country plain and simple. It would be the same as the Irish team joining forces with say, India.

some people on here are gas!

Same as India? good god.

I get the impression some people want to take a stance and they are not entirely sure where to stand and end up confusing themselves.

Kidchameleon

Dub13 wrote: »

I would not be the most nationalist person in the world,but to be honest your post is just silly.

Silly how? NI is a different country to Ireland, same as say for example, Brazil and Uruguay are different country's. Even though both sets of country's occupy the same land mass doesn't mean they should play on the same football team. :rolleyes:

Dub13

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Silly how? NI is a different country to Ireland, same as say for example, Brazil and Uruguay are different country's. Even though both sets of country's occupy the same land mass doesn't mean they should play on the same football team. :rolleyes:

It's silly because india does not have 30%/40% of its population wanting to be part of Ireland and also supporting the ROI team.

ColeTrain

citytillidie wrote: »

I would have McCourt before McGeady

Seriously? I like McCourt but he's nowhere near the level of McGeady.

homerjay2005

Mr. Denton wrote: »

Probably be an actual United Ireland before there's a United Ireland team.

would that not have to be the case anyway?

if this ever happend, the only player that would improve us is Evans IMO.

Paul4As

I can not believe the name Chris Brunt wasn't mentioned with regards Northern Ireland players on a possible all Ireland team. Over the last year he has been doing pretty well for West Brom...he's their new captain. For Northern Ireland he is beginning to put in good shifts...a few years back he was a lazy sod!
As a Northern Ireland football team supporter I would be against an all Ireland team. Headquarters would probably be in Dublin and all games would be in Dublin. Just the same as I would be against a UK football team.

celtictiger32

Des wrote: »

What happens to The League of Ireland and The Irish League in this scenario OP?

If the associations merge, do you suggest a merging of the leagues also? Please outline a plan for this, as you see it, thanks.

yes definately, would love to see both especially the latter as i dont think what northern ireland have to offer as a national team would improve anything we have now, but the leagues merging would have several benefits.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Paul4As wrote: »

I can not believe the name Chris Brunt wasn't mentioned with regards Northern Ireland players on a possible all Ireland team. Over the last year he has been doing pretty well for West Brom...he's their new captain. For Northern Ireland he is beginning to put in good shifts...a few years back he was a lazy sod!
As a Northern Ireland football team supporter I would be against an all Ireland team. Headquarters would probably be in Dublin and all games would be in Dublin. Just the same as I would be against a UK football team.

Just forgot about him tbh.

Mr. Denton

homerjay2005 wrote: »

would that not have to be the case anyway?

Well considering many sporting organisations Ireland are already 32-county based even tho the country is not united then I would have to say no that is not the case anyway.

If you mean a united country would have to have a united team then I would say yes probably so. My point is that the actual unification of Ireland itself would have to occur first to make this team a reality, such is the level of division between IFA/FAI.

celtictiger32

Mr. Denton wrote: »

Well considering many sporting organisations Ireland are already 32-county based even tho the country is not united then I would have to say no that is not the case anyway.

If you mean a united country would have to have a united team then I would say yes probably so. My point is that the actual unification of Ireland itself would have to occur first to make this team a reality, such is the level of division between IFA/FAI.

what if the north slipped right back down the rankings again do you think that would be a factor?

kraggy

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Jeez never thought I would thank one of your posts

Why did you thank it Broxi?

Thought you'd be against the notion of a united Ireland, no?

Guy:Incognito

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I totally agree with you.

I do not support the Ireland rugby team beacuse they do not represent me and where I am from which is the Republic of Ireland, all 26 counties of it, no more, no less.

So if they do not fly the Irish tri-colour or play 'Amhrán na bhFiann' they may as well be Nepal as far as I am concerned.

If the Irish rugby team split like soccer did in the 1920s then I would care a bit more for them.

So no I would not like to see a united Ireland soccer team.

I assume you dont support Ireland in most sports so? Athletics, boxing and whatever else at the Olympics next year ?

Father Damo wrote: »

even the cricket despite having zero interest in it, .

This is the Republic of Ireland cricket team yeah? Cos I only know of the one that represents the whole Island. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_cricket_team

Fr Tod Umptious

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I assume you dont support Ireland in most sports so? Athletics, boxing and whatever else at the Olympics next year ?

Last time I checked the Irish Olympic team carried a tri-colour and stood to 'Amhrán na bhFiann'.

They did not play some made up song as an anthem or carried some made up flag just to appease some members of the team.

strawberryb0y

Number one it will never happen.
2 seperate countries. Anyone from the North who wants to represent or be represented by the ROI team can be due to the good friday agreement. So thats enough for me.

In any case I don't think they have a single player good enough for our first team

G.K.

Evans? Davis?

The Rooster

Wow, hadnt realised this new formed nationalism, i.e. partionist nationalism, was so widespread.

No such country as "Republic of Ireland" by the way, that's a makey-up name used for soccer purposes. Our country is called Ireland.

There are many many people in the 6 counties who (rightly) consider themselves as Irish any person in the 26.

The FAI and IFA will never merge until forced to by the reunification of Ireland. That's a few years away yet!

strawberryb0y

The Rooster wrote: »

Wow, hadnt realised this new formed nationalism, i.e. partionist nationalism, was so widespread.

No such country as "Republic of Ireland" by the way, that's a makey-up name used for soccer purposes. Our country is called Ireland.

There are many many people in the 6 counties who (rightly) consider themselves as Irish any person in the 26.

The FAI and IFA will never merge until forced to by the reunification of Ireland. That's a few years away yet!

The people up north who consider themselves Irish are represented by the ROI team, they are after all Irish citizens i would assume.
The majority of northerners would not see themselves as being represented by an all Irish team so I don't see why there should be one.

G.K. wrote: »

Evans? Davis?

Not in the starting 11

G.K.

Who would you have in CM? Whelan and McCarthy? I'd have McCarthy and Davis.

And I'd prolly have Evans ahead of St. Ledger.

But only those two.

Bodhisopha

Guy:Incognito

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Last time I checked the Irish Olympic team carried a tri-colour and stood to 'Amhrán na bhFiann'.

They did not play some made up song as an anthem or carried some made up flag just to appease some members of the team.

Maybe the All Ireland sports should stop pandering to sountherners so and all play under the Northern flag and play GSTQ? It was Ireland befrore it was Republic of Ireland