Faded red paint

mondeo

What's the solution to this? Respray the faded areas or can they be treated to bring back original Color? What's with red cars fading to shades of pink anyways?

Thanks:)

kildare.17hmr

it really depends how far gone it is. sometimes a good buff brings it back if its not too bad but others need a respray. maybe put up a few good pics and you will get a better idea of what you can do

Tigger

cut and polish first

corktina

try a bit of tcut, see what that does.It should work . If you dont fancy the elbow grease of doing the whole car,im sure a bodyshop would compound it for you

bazz26

It's most probably just needs a coat of something like T Cut Colour Restorer or similar. Bring it to a professional/expert detailer for an opinion.

Respray should be a last resort.

vectra

Machine it.

Owen

There's no point in recommending T Cut or any corrective procedures until we know how old the car is and what type of paint is on it. If it's an older 2 pack direct gloss paint, you can usually restore that with a corrective procedure. If it's anything recently modern, the red will be under a clear coat and the corrective method will only affect the clear coat, and not the faded colour underneath.

corktina

Owen wrote: »

There's no point in recommending T Cut or any corrective procedures until we know how old the car is and what type of paint is on it. If it's an older 2 pack direct gloss paint, you can usually restore that with a corrective procedure. If it's anything recently modern, the red will be under a clear coat and the corrective method will only affect the clear coat, and not the faded colour underneath.

thats why I said "try a bit of tcut"

mondeo

It's my brother in laws 99' Honda civic hatch. Front bumper and wings are gone pink. Hoping to try save him a few quid by buying a few products and putting some elbow grease into it over the weekend. I'm not afraid of elbow grease!

Car is not even worth 1k so pointless spending 5 or 6 hundred on partial respray IMO. It's his 1st car aswell so I'm trying to do my best for him.

end a eknny

if it was rubbed down with 1200 and given a coat of clear laquer should come up like new

Owen

end a eknny wrote: »

if it was rubbed down with 1200 and given a coat of clear laquer should come up like new

How can you give a diagnosis like that without knowing what's on the car? Rubbing it down with 1200 - which is an aggressive paper - could eat through the lacquer into the paint, and if it's waterbased paint underneath you'll cause significant damage, resulting in the panel, or the entire car needing to be repainted. Even if it's 2k paint, 1200 would be through it soon enough with an inexperienced hand. Relacquering is daft too.

Off the top of my head OP, I don't know if the 99 is waterbased, or 2k. As Corktina said, try a gentle abrasive on a cloth, on an inconspicuous area. If it comes up nicely, go hell for leather on the rest of it. If it doesn't come up, it's most likely base coat with a clear coat over it and repainting will be the only solution.

alias no.9

mondeo wrote: »

It's my brother in laws 99' Honda civic hatch. Front bumper and wings are gone pink. Hoping to try save him a few quid by buying a few products and putting some elbow grease into it over the weekend. I'm not afraid of elbow grease!

Car is not even worth 1k so pointless spending 5 or 6 hundred on partial respray IMO. It's his 1st car aswell so I'm trying to do my best for him.

I was going to suggest not buying a red toyota because they used to be bastards for this , not sure it'll work with a honda.

Guy:Incognito

Get out the VLC, fill in the colour change section to "faded red/wine", pop in the post.Voila

Much cheaper than a respray.

vectra

mondeo wrote: »

It's my brother in laws 99' Honda civic hatch. Front bumper and wings are gone pink. Hoping to try save him a few quid by buying a few products and putting some elbow grease into it over the weekend. I'm not afraid of elbow grease!

Car is not even worth 1k so pointless spending 5 or 6 hundred on partial respray IMO. It's his 1st car aswell so I'm trying to do my best for him.

I have a second car,
'97 Civic
And yes.. it is a Milano red one..


I won't say it was pink when I bought it but it was a far cry from Shiney resd as it was supposed to be.

We, ( my 19yr old son and I ) attacked it panel by panel over a couple of days. Took our time with Color restorer. until we were happy with the results,
We then did a coat of Chemical Guys P40 polish.

Sealed it off with Chemical Guys Blitz.

We have polished it a few times to keep it red as possible.
The results speak for themselves

All Products are available from
Detailer.ie in Dublin
Or
Cleancar.ie in Wexford

mondeo

vectra wrote: »

I have a second car,
'97 Civic
And yes.. it is a Milano red one..


I won't say it was pink when I bought it but it was a far cry from Shiney resd as it was supposed to be.

We, ( my 19yr old son and I ) attacked it panel by panel over a couple of days. Took our time with Color restorer. until we were happy with the results,
We then did a coat of Chemical Guys P40 polish.

Sealed it off with Chemical Guys Blitz.

We have polished it a few times to keep it red as possible.
The results speak for themselves

All Products are available from
Detailer.ie in Dublin
Or
Cleancar.ie in Wexford

That Looks great:D

vectra

mondeo wrote: »

That Looks great:D

Well then.
Up with the sleeves and off you go :pac:

Pink




to red





Not fantastic by any means but much cheaper than a respray.
That was autoglym SRP iirc with some Megs wax on top
I reckon a 99 Civic wouldn't be waterbased tbh.

mondeo

Does Autoglym SRP work as a cutting compound? I was thinking of compounding the car first then polish sealent and wax.

Yep, it cuts a bit, not anything OTT

end a eknny

Owen wrote: »

How can you give a diagnosis like that without knowing what's on the car? Rubbing it down with 1200 - which is an aggressive paper - could eat through the lacquer into the paint, and if it's waterbased paint underneath you'll cause significant damage, resulting in the panel, or the entire car needing to be repainted. Even if it's 2k paint, 1200 would be through it soon enough with an inexperienced hand. Relacquering is daft too.

Off the top of my head OP, I don't know if the 99 is waterbased, or 2k. As Corktina said, try a gentle abrasive on a cloth, on an inconspicuous area. If it comes up nicely, go hell for leather on the rest of it. If it doesn't come up, it's most likely base coat with a clear coat over it and repainting will be the only solution.

i have used 1200 and never found it agressive but then again i was nice to it. i cant imagine a 99 car with water based paint can you........ and if it was it would be recent and hardly fading. i was just trying to offer a cheaper solution than a full respray but what would i know

johnos1984

OP what car is it?

I know if it's an Alfa you won't be able to polish it. I had the same issue witha 146

Nonoperational

The lads are spot on. Some cutting polish (test on small area first) and ideally a polishing machine but if not elbow grease and you won't know the car after. There were posts on a forum before (maybe vagdrivers) that showed a lad that tackled a pink bonnet with a dual action polisher and the resultts were unbelievable. I can't remember now where I saw it but I was amazed.

mondeo

RoverJames wrote: »

Yep, it cuts a bit, not anything OTT

ok ill try that as a cheap solution, if it does not work I'll try the more expensive stuff there on detailer. Failing that a respray!

mondeo

johnos1984 wrote: »

OP what car is it?

I know if it's an Alfa you won't be able to polish it. I had the same issue witha 146

99' Honda Civic

johnos1984

mondeo wrote: »

99' Honda Civic

Then everyone so far is correct

Owen

end a eknny wrote: »

i have used 1200 and never found it agressive but then again i was nice to it ... i was just trying to offer a cheaper solution than a full respray but what would i know

Telling someone to sand their car and relacquer it is absurd. Even if it's 2k paint, even if the person with the sandpaper is extremely experienced, if the car has been compounded before there may be very little paint left on the panel and one or two strokes of 1200 paper would go down to primer. That's why detailers use paint thickness meters before attempting any wetsanding or compounding.

If you used 1200 and got away with it you're lucky. You also caused yourself a lot more work by doing it that way too than using traditional old school methods.

1200 is an aggressive paper for damage correction, I have everything from 80-3000 in my daily kit, and I would only use 1200 if I had some extreme correction to do in a finish.

[EDIT] And I hadn't read the comment about it being a 99 civic, so my comments about waterbased still stand.

cena

vectra wrote: »

I have a second car,
'97 Civic
And yes.. it is a Milano red one..


I won't say it was pink when I bought it but it was a far cry from Shiney resd as it was supposed to be.

We, ( my 19yr old son and I ) attacked it panel by panel over a couple of days. Took our time with Color restorer. until we were happy with the results,
We then did a coat of Chemical Guys P40 polish.

Sealed it off with Chemical Guys Blitz.

We have polished it a few times to keep it red as possible.
The results speak for themselves

All Products are available from
Detailer.ie in Dublin
Or
Cleancar.ie in Wexford
ack bum


Did you use a manchine too get this done. It looks well nice. I see my bumper is fading. Its that fiat red on the 02 up wards model.

vectra

cena wrote: »

Did you use a manchine too get this done. It looks well nice

All done by hand.
I would like to machine it but It is probably good enough.
Plenty of "elbow grease"

mondeo

Thanks for all the advice, hope it wont be pissing raining saturday morning:P.
I hope I don't make a balls of it either:pac:

sean1141

autoglym also have a product called paint renovator.. more cut to it than the super resin polish.