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Shamrock or Aer Lingus?

  • 11-08-2011 6:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭


    Listening ATC Dublin Tower I could hear controllers calling Aer Lingus planes "Shamrock". Why is that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭bandit197


    Its their callsign, British Airways is 'speedbird', BMI baby is 'baby'.
    The shamrock in Aer Lingus callsign is self-explanatory. Hint, its on the tail.....:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Jim236


    Every airline has a radio callsign. Aer Lingus' is just 'Shamrock'. Ryanair's is 'Ryanair', CityJet's is 'City-Ireland', and Aer Arann's is 'Aer Arann'.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Personally I love the US Airways callsign..........'Cactus'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭David086


    They use it to keep the syllable at a minimum also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭globemaster1986


    Tenger wrote: »
    Personally I love the US Airways callsign..........'Cactus'

    The 'Cactus' callsign originally belonged to America West but they merged with US Airways and their callsign was kept.

    SAA use 'Springbok' which is pretty cool! Also like 'Citrus' - Air Tran, 'Relax' - Sky Europe, 'Giant' - Atlas but my personal favourite after 'Shamrock', is 'Blue Streak':D - PSA Airlines!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭LondonIrish90


    I must admit to having quite a liking for British Airways' "Speedbird" call sign. As call signs go I think it is one of the more elegant and identifiable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    I must admit to having quite a liking for British Airways' "Speedbird" call sign. As call signs go I think it is one of the more elegant and identifiable.

    Speedbird certainly suited Concorde.


    I liked the old Pan Am one too, Clipper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭Lustrum


    Here's a full list of them

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_codes-All

    Check out HRH the duke of york!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 kevjob


    When British Airways were flying the Concorde they used the callsign "Concorde" for the flights. Speedbird was and is used on all other flights.

    Kev.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Teebor15


    When British Airways were flying the Concorde they used the callsign "Concorde" for the flights. Speedbird was and is used on all other flights

    Thats not correct. British Airways Concorde flights used the callsign "Speedbird Concorde". Also not all BA flights use Speedbird. The callsign "Shuttle" is used on the regular flights between Heathrow and Manchester, Newcastle, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Edinburgh and also between Gatwick and Manchester, Glasgow and Edinburgh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    Very interesting I did not know these call signs wonder what bono's would be god air


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Bearcat


    Tenger wrote: »
    Personally I love the US Airways callsign..........'Cactus'
    I don't....every time I hear the call sign cactus I think of sully putting that 320 in the Hudson and what a lucky escape those folk had. Anyone care to put the link to the transcript with atc up? That cactus call sign will ring in your ears for a while thereafter!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭A320




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Turbo Porter


    Sometime back Aer Lingus used to use call sign "Lingus"...I think up to the early 1970`s and before that registrations were used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    Sometime back Aer Lingus used to use call sign "Lingus"...I think up to the early 1970`s and before that registrations were used.

    It was officially "Aer Lingus" so dropping the "Aer" was just a form of shorthand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Turbo Porter


    EchoIndia wrote: »
    It was officially "Aer Lingus" so dropping the "Aer" was just a form of shorthand.

    Maybe so but we are talking about vocal not written and "Lingus"is what I remember been used all the time then.While still on the subject was "Shamrock"used for the trans Atlantic services before been adopted for all services?Something in the back of my mind has me thinking this but I could be mistaken.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    .....While still on the subject was "Shamrock"used for the trans Atlantic services before been adopted for all services?Something in the back of my mind has me thinking this but I could be mistaken.
    Could well have been the case as originally 'Aer Lingus' was the European operator while 'Aerlinte Eireann' was the TransAtlantic operation with the Constellations. (This wasin addition to Aer Rianta running the airports themselves)
    Not sure when they merged though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    Tenger is correct. In the 1970s the transatlantic flights used "Shamrock" while all others used "Aer Lingus". Then it was "Aer Lingus" for all flights and finally "Shamrock" was adopted for all! I don't know the dates of the changes but this is the sequence as I recall it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Turbo Porter


    EchoIndia wrote: »
    Tenger is correct. In the 1970s the transatlantic flights used "Shamrock" while all others used "Aer Lingus". Then it was "Aer Lingus" for all flights and finally "Shamrock" was adopted for all! I don't know the dates of the changes but this is the sequence as I recall it.

    Ah well Tenger I`am sure is a sound person..but what you quoted sounds a bit like what I said see reply 17 :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 6,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭sharkman


    When listening to the Tower I sometimes hear them refer to "Company" taking up position etc .. What does this refer to ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Turbo Porter


    sharkman wrote: »
    When listening to the Tower I sometimes hear them refer to "Company" taking up position etc .. What does this refer to ?

    Tower use the term "Company"when talking to talking to a specific airlines aircraft and advising them of what an other aircraft of the same airline is doing or intends to do.An example would be lets say a Ryanair is holding short of the active runway and another Ryanair is on short finals the tower may say "Ryanair(flight no.)cleared to line up after the company on short final has passed".The same would apply if it was any other airlines same two aircraft it just means another aircraft of the same company.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Ah well Tenger I`am sure is a sound person..but what you quoted sounds a bit like what I said see reply 17 :rolleyes:

    I am sound, thanks for that. But I thought I was responding to your query of T/A vs Euro callsigns. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Turbo Porter


    Tenger wrote: »
    I am sound, thanks for that. But I thought I was responding to your query of T/A vs Euro callsigns. ;)

    It was not your post I was replying to Tenger I have not quibble with that I quoted and was referring to EchoIndia in post 19.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭pclancy


    I was told to line up after the "company cherokee at 2 miles" the other day in my little piper tomahawk. He was referring to another plane from the same aeroclub but funny to hear the company description being applied to GA aircraft :)


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