graffiti

orangebud

Now i am a fan of good graffiti but this popped up beside my home the last few nights and its disgusting.


 

 
Has anyone else seen this tag and what does it mean?

If i see these naggers at it again there is going to be some serious fist shaking

EuskalHerria

Something to do with the mafia according to this

http://www.lacndb.com/php/Info.php?name=Family%20-%20Bufalino%20%28Volpe%29

Ruby_Woo

Is that in Lurgan Park?

inkwell

"Razem ponad kilo" is in polish and exactly means : "together more then/ over kilo" and its album title of some hip hop group from Warsaw.

It's just a stupid act of vandalism -they probably think they are cool.

orangebud

Ruby_Woo wrote: »

Is that in Lurgan Park?

yes there seems to be more around the place

inkwell

You should like the orange OP

Play this loud with open window :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSvf0UOnI-U

and wait .. if there will be group of teenagers in hoodies staring, it's them

orangebud

Lol i did like the color
I might go out there tonight and spray HIP HOP IS GAY

inkwell

orangebud wrote: »

Lol i did like the color
I might go out there tonight and spray HIP HOP IS GAY

:pac:

inkwell

Too be honest I hate how some Polish people came here few years ago with their kids (now almost adults) and they didnt teach them any manners or respect for anything. Where I live there is a group sitting on a bench in the evenings and they always leave tons of rubbish behind them.
I dont mind them sitting (was doing it myself not too long ago), but I hate when people litter.
It's not only polish teens doing it of course, but its annoying me because I am polish myself :mad: and I think they should know better.

Pinturicchio

Anyone know what the symbol between the "19" and "08" means?

Cosa Nostra is the Sicilian Mafia.

evil_seed

Looks like a crest for a polish soccer team?

edit: I was right. It's the LKS Lodz crest. Founded in 1908. The cosa nostra reference is for their hardcore fans. Like the "Ultras" in italian football.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4Sl6cSmra0

biko

Fordners, please tag in English when in Ireland!

inkwell

I am sooo glad you dont have it here.. was once in the middle of their fight on railway station - not funny. Even taxi drivers left their cars and run away.

Columc

this is not graffiti, this is just pure vandalism. just some kids/people that decided to go around with a spray can

dylanlolwut

Columc wrote: »

this is not graffiti, this is just pure vandalism. just some kids/people that decided to go around with a spray can

when you say that i hope your only talking about the picture in this thread.

Some taggers are very talented for example, If you ever look up artists such as Banksy, Borf, Invader etc..They are very talented and unique. Graffiti is just another form of art

Columc

dylanlolwut wrote: »

when you say that i hope your only talking about the picture in this thread.

Some taggers are very talented for example, If you ever look up artists such as Banksy, Borf, Invader etc..They are very talented and unique. Graffiti is just another form of art

That is why i said that it wasn't graffiti, but it is just vandalism. I am 100% behind graffiti/street art

beardybrewer

dylanlolwut wrote: »

Some taggers are very talented for example, If you ever look up artists such as Banksy, Borf, Invader etc..They are very talented and unique. Graffiti is just another form of art

Tagging is just initials or a symbol spread throughout the community like marking terriroty. Tagging is an narcissistic display by talentless kids seeking attention. Graffiti can vary and edge towards art. I don't think you'd call Banksy a tagger.

mikom

Tagging: The "human" version of dogs pissing on car wheels.

Chopsdoggy

dylanlolwut wrote: »

when you say that i hope your only talking about the picture in this thread.

Some taggers are very talented for example, If you ever look up artists such as Banksy, Borf, Invader etc..They are very talented and unique. Graffiti is just another form of art

Don't talk about graffiti if you don't know what your talking about. Your using terms such as 'tagger' which has nothing to do with graffiti and which is used by ignorant media to describe our 'art'.

Graffiti is complex. The artists you just listed are not graffiti artists. Their street artists, major difference ! The street art movement is a development and movement which came from real graffiti which is the art of typography and writing letters through the medium of spraypaint. I could go on and on ...:D

Chopsdoggy

newkie wrote: »

Tagging is an narcisstic display by talentless kids seeking attention. Graffiti can vary and edge towards art.

Talentless kids you say? Hmmm interesting. Do you know the lifestyle of the average graffiti writer?(Its called writing, tagging is the phrase used to describe the activitiy by ignorant media). Kids seeking attention? What kid do you know that gets up in the middle of the night, 3-4 times a week, most commonly evades parental knowledge of his activities, takes a late night bus into the far end of his area(normally 10-12km) walks back in the bitter cold with a 10 kilo bag, and puts up his expression which is his alterego...his name. Most kids I know of (15-18), go to school, sit on their ass or get drunk on the weekend.

The 'kids' behind this

newkie wrote: »

narcisstic display

are ones of drive. Think about what society can with these kind of individuals who are not incentivised by the rewards of money. How many people do you know would spend every penny they earn on paint? How many people do you know in this capitilistic society would bother to do anything if it did'nt involve a monetery return. I understand that graffiti is wrong. Its unwanted and unsolicited. I'm just trying to convey that theirs real people and real stories behing the graffiti you look down upon on the streets...

Rant over.;)

TobyZiegler

Chopsdoggy wrote: »

Talentless kids you say? Hmmm interesting. Do you know the lifestyle of the average graffiti writer?(Its called writing, tagging is the phrase used to describe the activitiy by ignorant media). Kids seeking attention? What kid do you know that gets up in the middle of the night, 3-4 times a week, most commonly evades parental knowledge of his activities, takes a late night bus into the far end of his area(normally 10-12km) walks back in the bitter cold with a 10 kilo bag, and puts up his expression which is his alterego...his name. Most kids I know of (15-18), go to school, sit on their ass or get drunk on the weekend.

The 'kids' behind this are ones of drive. Think about what society can with these kind of individuals who are not incentivised by the rewards of money. How many people do you know would spend every penny they earn on paint? How many people do you know in this capitilistic society would bother to do anything if it did'nt involve a monetery return. I understand that graffiti is wrong. Its unwanted and unsolicited. I'm just trying to convey that theirs real people and real stories behing the graffiti you look down upon on the streets...

Rant over.;)

I don't care what time the little sh!ts get up at and how far they travel to write their name in the most unappealling, unartistic and to quote yourself unwanted and unsolicited way across walls/shops etc. I don't congratulate them for having the 'drive' to go out and vandalise. Of course its narcissistic to ruin a a wall with your crappy awful looking scrawl and to think that it has some artistic merit and that you are so important that you have to 'tag' your town.

(I'm not talking about artistic graffiti or street art here.)

Chopsdoggy

TobyZiegler wrote: »

I don't care what time the little sh!ts get up at and how far they travel to write their name in the most unappealling, unartistic and to quote yourself unwanted and unsolicited way across walls/shops etc. I don't congratulate them for having the 'drive' to go out and vandalise. Of course its narcissistic to ruin a a wall with your crappy awful looking scrawl and to think that it has some artistic merit and that you are so important that you have to 'tag' your town.

(I'm not talking about artistic graffiti or street art here.)

Then I'd predict you'd have the same kind of closed view to any form of art or expression whether you subconsciously know it or not.

Just try. Next time your on the streets and you see a ''scrawl'... look at it from a different angle, persumption, viewpoint etc.

inkwell

Chopsdoggy wrote: »

Then I'd predict you'd have the same kind of closed view to any form of art or expression whether you subconsciously know it or not.

Just try. Next time your on the streets and you see a ''scrawl'... look at it from a different angle, persumption, viewpoint etc.

You dont get it or you didn't read what was said before? :rolleyes:

I think in post before yours somebody just said, that is not talking about real grafitti or art.

Go and look at the thing on the wall from the OP post from as many different angles as you want and good luck with finding any "art" in it.

Trying to be smart, but its not working.. :pac:

Chopsdoggy

inkwell wrote: »

You dont get it or you didn't read what was said before? :rolleyes:

I think in post before yours somebody just said, that is not talking about real grafitti or art.

Go and look at the thing on the wall from the OP post from as many different angles as you want and good luck with finding any "art" in it.

Trying to be smart, but its not working.. :pac:

Man I did'nt understand anything you wrote other than I was trying to sound smart and I was'nt working. Please post again more clearly!

inkwell

Chopsdoggy wrote: »

Man I did'nt understand anything you wrote other than I was trying to sound smart and I was'nt working. Please post again more clearly!

I know my punctuation and grammar are not perfect but it is understadnable..try again :P -and I didnt write you are not working, but your trying to be smart is not working..

aido179

where did you get that nice color orange from chopsdoggy?

Chopsdoggy

aido179 wrote: »

where did you get that nice color orange from chopsdoggy?

Colour orange?

biko

He refers to the pics in the original post, which you seem to be defending as art.

dylanlolwut

what ever A-holes did this should o considered one of the main rules when bombing. DONT DO IT ONE PRIVATE PROPERTY.By this i mean dont do on some persons random car or the side of there house..its not cool. I also realize that there really isnt any place to do graffiti freely, a lot of places are private now

PseudoFamous

dylanlolwut wrote: »

Some taggers are very talented for example, If you ever look up artists such as Banksy, Borf, Invader etc..They are very talented and unique. Graffiti is just another form of art

Bhuel, somebody watched Exit through the gift shop about twenty minutes before posting this.

spinandscribble

to talk of doodlers (name by which i use to refer to sh1t like the op's images) in reference to skilled street artists is madness. The term "rebel without a cause" springs to mind.

This isn't art, its just doodling your nickname/fave group/team in one or *gasp* two colours (must be a sale on somewhere....) across the wall without any thought to type, scale, practice, style, theme, colour, is not art.

Please do not refer to these messers as "taggers" or street artists, its nuts and damaging to the actual artists out there. Its like saying your uncle Paddy by dumping his garbage in a field instead of paying for the bins is making a post modernist ironic statement on the relationship between modern man and the environment by making a site specific, performance piece of work that is transient in nature... jeeze

ErnieBert

dylanlolwut wrote: »

. Graffiti is just another form of art

Graffiti is cool when you see it on a NY subway or on the side of as house in Belfast.

But if it's on the side of my home, it would be vandalism and I wouldn't hesitate in shoving a spray paint canister up the 'artist's' hairy hole until he coughs up the paint

spinandscribble

ErnieBert wrote: »

Graffiti is cool when you see it on a NY subway or on the side of as house in Belfast.

But if it's on the side of my home, it would be vandalism and I wouldn't hesitate in shoving a spray paint canister up the 'artist's' hairy hole until he coughs up the paint

thing is any decent graffiti artist would put up something on a privately owned house, two reasons, one it means the works life space is shorten even more, two it doesn't exactly help the rep of the graffiti artists. I've only seen doodlers and idiots damage homes.

jkforde

took this a few days ago, it's on one of the backyard doors on the Eglington Canal just up from Róisins... any more recent stuff around?

Mrs OBumble

I rather like http://graffitigalway.blogspot.com/

BhoscaCapall

Unlucky OP, Lodz ultras are Nazi scum.

Get one of these over it

jkforde

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Unlucky OP, Lodz ultras are Nazi scum.

Get one of these over it

sorry BC, what do you mean? are you referring to the scribble on top of the art?

BhoscaCapall

jkforde wrote: »

sorry BC, what do you mean? are you referring to the scribble on top of the art?

According to earlier detective work in this thread, the graffiti relates to the LKS Lodz football team, who's ultras are pretty right-wing as they go.

jkforde

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

According to earlier detective work in this thread, the graffiti relates to the LKS Lodz football team, who's ultras are pretty right-wing as they go.

I still don't get you. I posted the image because I like the artistic skill of the drawing of the crying boy. Is it this image which relates to this bunch of ignorants and where in the previous posts in this thread is this referred to?

pleasant Co.

jkforde wrote: »

I still don't get you. I posted the image because I like the artistic skill of the drawing of the crying boy. Is it this image which relates to this bunch of ignorants and where in the previous posts in this thread is this referred to?

He's been talking about the OP (original poster, first post in this thread). Your image requires a link click so it's easily overlooked if you're skipping through the thread from the beginning.

antoobrien

jkforde wrote: »

sorry BC, what do you mean? are you referring to the scribble on top of the art?

Seriously you think this (what the OP is referring to) is art

orangebud wrote: »

 

While I don't like graffiti (anywhere) I can appreciate the work that goes into some of the bits that have been posted here.

Whomever did that vandalism may as well have just painted up a swastika, kkk logo, burning cross take your pick. So encouraging an anti fascist replacement is not in any way unreasonable

drum!

The same plank put his stupid name in several locations on the building where i work, a protected structure that's been in the centre of Galway for many, many years.A huge pain in the ass to remove but i hope he does it again as we'll be more prepared to catch him next time around. This is not street art, if you want examples of that, go down to Pump Lane or the bridge on the Dyke Rd, this is simply vandalism with paint by a complete fool and should not be associated with street art.

jkforde

FYI, I know this is off Galway City but Dave Fanning just had (Sat 28 1120 ) a good interview with this bunch who are running tours of the graffiti\street art in Dublin: http://www.urbanproductions.ie/tour.html

Shakti

orangebud wrote: »

 
Has anyone else seen this tag and what does it mean?

Obviously its the work of a small group of economic activists
inspired by the 1908 Bezdany raid on the revenue train which
carried tax revenues out of Poland to Russia.

Never forget.