Amazon UK stops sale of 'self defence items'

Jimmy Garlic

Stuff like extendible nightsticks and kubotans. All perfectly legal in the UK (at least until nanny state bans them). Presumably as Amazon is profit driven they must be under pressure to stop the sale of these items. After all, the British nanny state has made it clear that they do not want people to defend their families and property (a job the police obviously can't or won't do) and just roll over.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/11/uk-riots-amazon-withdraws-truncheons

Saila

makes sense given the riots lately

Jimmy Garlic

Saila wrote: »

makes sense given the riots lately

How does it make sense?.

Saila

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

How does it make sense?.

these would be great weapons to use and not defend with sooo there you go. Id say thats why they have been removed.

Manic Moran

Saila wrote: »

makes sense given the riots lately

It seems to me that periods of lawlessness are precisely the times when people might have greater need of such items.

these would be great weapons to use and not defend with sooo there you go. Id say thats why they have been removed.

Given the propensity of police to carry them, they would appear to be quite serviceable defense items. Plus, even better tools such as firearms or tasers are prohibited as a general rule, so the sticks are the next best thing.

NTM

Jimmy Garlic

Saila wrote: »

these would be great weapons to use and not defend with sooo there you go. Id say thats why they have been removed.

That is an absurd reason. The rioters/thugs/social degenerates are already tooled up. They don't need to go on Amazon to do it.

LighterGuy

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

How does it make sense?.

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

That is an absurd reason. The rioters/thugs/social degenerates are already tooled up. They don't need to go on Amazon to do it.

ah dont be dizzy :rolleyes:
this is Amazon covering its ass. No different from a person, its just a business doing it in this case.

They want to be officially seen as stopping the sale of such weapons during the riots. Lets face facts, theres going to be a certain percentage of idiots who'll be pointing figers :rolleyes: always is in this world ... "sure that amazon thing was selling those weapons!" etc etc. They just dont want any bad press what so ever.

TheZohanS

LighterGuy wrote: »

ah dont be dizzy :rolleyes:
this is Amazon covering its ass. No different from a person, its just a business doing it in this case.

They want to be officially seen as stopping the sale of such weapons during the riots. Lets face facts, theres going to be a certain percentage of idiots who'll be pointing figers :rolleyes: always is in this world ... "sure that amazon thing was selling those weapons!" etc etc. They just dont want any bad press what so ever.

Exactly, PR exercise.

Ardennes1944

phew, just bought a bear grylls knife off them last week

Voodu Child

Baseball bats are still for sale (but mostly sold out) so removing a kubotan seems fairly pointless.

It's like removing pocket knives but still selling machetes.

biko

Manic Moran wrote: »

It seems to me that periods of lawlessness are precisely the times when people might have greater need of such items.

These items won't make it to the customers on time to defend themselves before these riots are over, I hope.
However when they do arrive they'll help to increase the number of weapons available in a household when there is another riot (or more likely to be used by or against the resident during a burglary).

I do understand why people would buy weapons, it's just that they won't be trained to use them and will probably make things worse.
Also, using the weapon incorrectly is more likely to cause more harm than what the home-owner originally intended.
For instance kill someone rather than knock them out.

amacca

Damnation!...had my eye on a big old rubber truncheon on Amazon


(to go with the rest of the outfit)

Saila

amacca wrote: »

Damnation!...had my eye on a big old rubber truncheon on Amazon


(to go with the rest of the outfit)

do they do dildos?

amacca

Saila wrote: »

do they do dildos?

Wont somebody think of the dungeon masters in all of this?.....its like we are second class citizens.

CardBordWindow

Deutschlandfürimmer7 wrote: »

phew, just bought a bear grylls knife off them last week

A knife that has an emergency storage of piss in the handle?

amacca

CardBordWindow wrote: »

A knife that has an emergency storage of piss in the handle?

Naturally....a Bear Grylls knife that cant store piss isn't worth piss.

InTheTrees

biko wrote: »

I do understand why people would buy weapons, it's just that they won't be trained to use them and will probably make things worse.
Also, using the weapon incorrectly is more likely to cause more harm than what the home-owner originally intended.
For instance kill someone rather than knock them out.

I understand your point. However it requires some confidence in civil authorities to keep order.

I'm sticking with my friend mossberg.

http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=5

Wertz

Amazon are probably more afarid of their delvery vans being looted for said weapons and having to offer thousands of refunds...

Saila

Wertz wrote: »

Amazon are probably more afarid of their delvery vans being looted for said weapons and having to offer thousands of refunds...

they should really take those "the battons are in here" stickers off the vans shouldnt they, asking for it really

Manic Moran

biko wrote: »

These items won't make it to the customers on time to defend themselves before these riots are over, I hope.

Why do you so hope? Do you think being able to defend yourself is wrong?

It is true that they probably won't make it on time to help with this instance, but there's no use-by date on the things, so I'm sure it'll come in handy next time. Sadly, human nature is such that often it takes a harsh lesson such as "Damnit, I really wish now that I had invested in.... (Fire extinguishers, jump cables, whatever)" before people prepare for the next event.

However when they do arrive they'll help to increase the number of weapons available in a household when there is another riot (or more likely to be used by or against the resident during a burglary).

You make that seem like a bad thing.

I do understand why people would buy weapons, it's just that they won't be trained to use them and will probably make things worse.
Also, using the weapon incorrectly is more likely to cause more harm than what the home-owner originally intended.
For instance kill someone rather than knock them out.

Not my problem. Not the home-owner's problem either. Fortunately, despite occasional exaggerative hand-wringing, the laws are strongly in favour of a homeowner acting within reasonable belief. If an attacker doesn't want to run the risk of being killed vice knocked out, maybe he should choose another hobby.

NTM

RustyNut

CardBordWindow wrote: »

A knife that has an emergency storage of piss in the handle?

And 4 assistants and makeup artist and car and driver to bring him to the nearest 5 star as soon as shooting is finished for the afternoon...:pac:

Jimmy Garlic

biko wrote: »

Also, using the weapon incorrectly is more likely to cause more harm than what the home-owner originally intended.
For instance kill someone rather than knock them out.

Anyone that breaks into someone else's house or business is fair game, anyone who tries to carjack someone else is also fair game. If they get killed in the process so what?. Proper justice served imo.

Bipolar Joe

God dammit, how will I stock my super hero arsenal, now?

Biggins

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

God dammit, how will I stock my super hero arsenal, now?

Ebay. :pac:

Bipolar Joe

Awesome. Expect to see The Dark Sh!te, fighting relatively simple to fight crimes in an awkward fashion any day now.

Ditch

InTheTrees wrote: »

I'm sticking with my friend mossberg.

http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=5

Pfftt! No pistol grip or folding stock ....?

Ardennes1944

CardBordWindow wrote: »

A knife that has an emergency storage of piss in the handle?

nope...just a knife.









and a flint/striker and sharpener