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Tag Division to make a comeback? *part 789654*

  • 10-08-2011 5:23pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭


    Your bimonthly report on WWE bringing back tag teams/crusierweights/managers/the A-Team:
    - As noted before, The Baltimore Sun wrestling writer Kevin Eck has been hired by WWE for the creative team. Eck will be the person that works with Triple H on talent grooming that we have wrote about recently. Word is that Eck will start with WWE the day after SummerSlam.

    - Triple H is serious on introducing new talents through vignettes and promos. It’s also being said that Triple H is interested in reviving the WWE Tag Team division. Word is that they are really starting to recruit tag teams and see if some names are under contract to other promotions.

    There has been talk internally about The Brisco Brothers but they are signed to Ring of Honor. There has also been a lot of talk about TNA’s Beer Money and bringing them in once they are able to get away from TNA.

    Regarding the Kings of Wrestling – Chris Hero & Claudio Castagnoli coming, the talk is that they will indeed be brought in together as a tag team and not singles wrestlers.

    Source: PWInsider


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    There has been talk internally about The Brisco Brothers

    Isnt Jack dead and Gerry retired? >,>

    (I'm well aware that's not who is being talked about btw)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Isnt Jack dead and Gerry retired? >,>

    (I'm well aware that's not who is being talked about btw)

    Oooh too soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    If WWE were actually to poach Roode and Storm they'd be crazy to use them as a tag team. They're potentially breakout singles stars and even TNA are beginning to recognise it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    back in the day the tag division would be a great way to have someone on TV, learning, and break out in singles after the team ended. but since there's no tag division they wouldn't be brought in as a team! Whilst i think Roode is very solid and smooth in the ring, i've never been wowed by his promo work. I think Storm's far more charismatic but Roode carries himself better. Definitely talents WWE should bring in.

    That said i think at least Roode is on a 5 year TNA contract


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    That said i think at least Roode is on a 5 year TNA contract

    They're definitely quite a bit away from being available but the point still stands (and I'd imagine both will have moved long past Beer Money by then).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,016 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    They should have a season of Nxt for tag teams


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    If HHH could fix the Tag Team division I'd take back everything bad I said about him.

    Like JP Liz said, making the next series of NXT all about tag teams. You've done Divas and Rejects already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    rovert wrote: »
    Your bimonthly report on WWE bringing back tag teams/crusierweights/managers/the A-Team:

    This is a thing that pops up every once in a while wwe use A manager or sign A talented tag team and suddenly they are going to be pushing the idea of them again. Remember when people said oh tyson kidd has armando in charge for 1 match and wwe were going to be start using more managers......still waiting for that old chestnut to happen. Guess you could say i'm not convinced this is happening. Although the idea of KOW vs Beer Money is nice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    If WWE were actually to poach Roode and Storm they'd be crazy to use them as a tag team. They're potentially breakout singles stars and even TNA are beginning to recognise it.

    If TNA broke up Beer Money, it would be severly detrimental to the tag-team division. They are the back-bone of the tag division, and for that reason I think they will continue to be a tag-team until new teams are made. The sum of Beer Money is more valuable right now than the sum of the two parts.

    They are the only consistency in a division where British Invasion are only on TV every other month, Gen-Me are gone, Ink Inc are AWOL, MCMG are on hiatus, Gunner's broke away from Murphy. Mexican-America seem to the only other viable tag-team right now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Tna didn't do the Tag Division any favours at last nites tapings.
    http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/bSPOILERS_TNA_iMPACT_Results_For_818b.php


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Charisteas wrote: »
    If TNA broke up Beer Money, it would be severly detrimental to the tag-team division. They are the back-bone of the tag division, and for that reason I think they will continue to be a tag-team until new teams are made. The sum of Beer Money is more valuable right now than the sum of the two parts.

    They are the only consistency in a division where British Invasion are only on TV every other month, Gen-Me are gone, Ink Inc are AWOL, MCMG are on hiatus, Gunner's broke away from Murphy. Mexican-America seem to the only other viable tag-team right now.

    Jesse Neal is injured from Hernandez dropping him on his head in a dominator.

    Last nights spoilers definitly didnt do anything to encourage me to watch anymore anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    I get the feeling that Beer Money and MCMG aren't that long for keeping in the tag division. Maybe it's just the rake of injuries over the past year. TNA need some fresh, dedicated talent to have a proper division.

    As Charisteas pointed out, the talent is quite thin. When Amexica is your first in line contenders, you know something's horribly wrong. And Beer Money/MCMG have wrestled on TV and PPV countless times over the last few years so it's not a fresh match. I imagine there can't be that many new fans that haven't seen 'em over the last 3 years?

    On WWE's side of things, i'll believe it when i see it. Fixing the tag division updates are like "WWE considering turning Cena heel" updates; it never amounts to anything.

    But it'd be fantastic if they brought in some fresh tag champions. Having Otunga and McGuillibuddies rule the roost is nothing short of a disgrace. You'd think one set of champs with one division would be an improvement! I'd love to see KoR in the WWE. I'm not huge on the Briscoes personally but sure everyone's worth a shot. Of course Beer Money but that's years off. It seems like an update just to placate us, as opposed to some actual consideration...

    Maybe Big Show/Kane will tag for a while. It'd get them out of singles which is nothing but a positive!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    The story of WWE tag teams:

    They will pushed for three weeks
    WWE will decided that they arent getting over
    Then job them
    Leave them off TV
    Bring them back on Superstars
    Break them up in the draft
    Have one turn on the other draft night
    Maybe have a match against each other
    Fire one
    Put the other one on Superstars
    Fire the other one in nine months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,016 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Looks like Johnny Curtis and his Nxt mentor R-Truth wont be having any tag title match seems to be forgotten about since Truth's heel turn maybe Johnny should change his name to Jimmy and it might happen :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    Pair "disfigured" Cody Rhodes Up with my adoped son "The Bizzare one" Gold Dust! They already have a ready made story both in real life and with their characters - the promos would be epic - and they are both solid in the ring!! It could be a real tag team instead of just 2 fellas they lump together (alá Jomo and R-Truth)

    But it's a good idea so it'll never happen!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Hark to the days when there were 3 or 4 tag teams after the titles.

    Hark to the days when the tag Titles were defended at a big PPV in an actual well built feud.

    TNA had a decent thing going last year, but that seems to have petered out.

    The ROH tag division is once again on fire. Kings, Briscoes, COReilly, Bravados, WGTT, Bucks, ANX. Magic stuff altogether.

    The tag titles actually eman something in ROH. The Tag titles have many times over the years headlined their bigger shows.

    It amazes me WWE just dont care enough. With even a small bit of effort you could have some great teams, pairing up some jobbers like Trent Berretta with say Yoshi, could transform them and make then into a legit team which later on has the effect that they could be realistic singles stars.

    Its how some of the biggest names in WWE over the last 30 years have come about - tag teams. Learn their trade early in a team until they are ready to go it alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Heres how I'd do it.
    1. Next season of NXT is all about Tag Teams
    2. Carry successful FCW tag teams straight into NXT for the main picks, then choose from outside signings.
    3. Trainers could be the likes of John Morrison, Miz, JTG. Use some of the last remaining superstars that were in tag teams.
    4. If you run out of pros, just give the teams managers.
    5. At least one tag team match per week on Superstars.
    6. Winners get a tag title shot at xxxx PPV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    I think the Nxt brand has been butchered beyond repair,wwe treat 2nd show Smackdown like its WrestleMania in comparison to that.
    Push them on Raw & Smackdown or else forget it. Don't think they are going to push it anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    That would be great for SD but i bet wwe's ego would never allow them to practically admit that SD is a training ground and not it's own show. i think revitalising the tag division is something the main audience should get to see. We just need talented dedicated tag teams, which is the opposite of what WWE have been doing for a very long time. Here's hoping!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    GTR63 wrote: »
    I think the Nxt brand has been butchered beyond repair,wwe treat 2nd show Smackdown like its WrestleMania in comparison to that.
    Push them on Raw & Smackdown or else forget it. Don't think they are going to push it anyway.

    Agree. I'd hazard a guess most wrestlingfans do not even know NXT exists. It has been a hopelesly failed venture apart from its first "season".

    No pussy footing around it and testing the water, it is really quite simple. Have a tag team challenge the current champions. Make them feud. When this feud is over, so not disband the losing team. have them want the titles back and introduce a third team into the mix.

    You do not need a seperate show to do that. All you need is a small bit of imaginattion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    I get the feeling that Beer Money and MCMG aren't that long for keeping in the tag division. Maybe it's just the rake of injuries over the past year. TNA need some fresh, dedicated talent to have a proper division.

    As Charisteas pointed out, the talent is quite thin. When Amexica is your first in line contenders, you know something's horribly wrong. And Beer Money/MCMG have wrestled on TV and PPV countless times over the last few years so it's not a fresh match. I imagine there can't be that many new fans that haven't seen 'em over the last 3 years?

    TNA's tag division has always had peaks and valleys. A few months after the first Triple X/AMW series there was the likes of 3LK and The Red Shirt Security as tag champs. And literally a month before the awesomeness of The Guns/Beer Money last year Hall and Nash were tag champs (with the Morgan/Hernandez stuff taking up the six months before that). TNA's tag division always comes back around in the end (and being honest with Ink Inc., The Brits, MexAm and eventually when The Guns return the division really isn't in that bad a state).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    I guess with the right booking and attention it won't be so bad but I can't stand Ink Inc, and Amexica and Gen Me are gone. TNA definitely need to get London Brawling (are they still using that?) back on TV regularly and the Guns.

    How do you rate Ink Inc and the mexicans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    I guess with the right booking and attention it won't be so bad but I can't stand Ink Inc, and Amexica and Gen Me are gone. TNA definitely need to get London Brawling (are they still using that?) back on TV regularly and the Guns.

    How do you rate Ink Inc and the mexicans?

    They reunited The British Invasion with Williams and Magnus a few months back. I've always likes Ink Inc. and Mexican America have grown on me in recent months (and their matches have actually been pretty good).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    I seem to be a part of the minority in not seeing anything wrong with Ink Inc apart from the fact that Jesse Neal looks like someone made him in Smackdown vs Raw. Both are solid wrestlers and having Jesse learn from someone with the expierence of Moore cant be a bad thing. I actually think Ink Inc are one of their better teams these days. Obviously Beer Money are by far the best with the Brits in second place. I think you can make a case for Ink Inc being the third best team on the current roster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    I do like Mexican America, really liked the Hernandez/Roode street fight (even more than the PPV match) but like I said before with InkInc and MCMG on hiatus, a new tag-team or two even temporarily to tide things over wouldn't go amiss.

    They could have The Hardys return as a tag-team, throw them at Beer Money and give them a 20 minute match at Bound For Glory.

    Or RVD and Jerry Lynn together could also work, but looking more likely is a feud between them.

    Maybe Kazarian could do with a tag-team run if the right partner is found, hint at Chris Masters ;)

    No doubt the British Invasion/London Brawling are going to return with a riot gimmick, looting under the ring and setting fire to the titan tron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Are the Brit's heels or babyfaces these days as a gimmick along those lines (obviously without the burning down the building part >,>) could be quite good if done properly. If nothing else, it would be something different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Are the Brit's heels or babyfaces these days as a gimmick along those lines (obviously without the burning down the building part >,>) could be quite good if done properly. If nothing else, it would be something different.

    Their latest return was as babyfaces. That seemed like a month ago now though, and they haven't been seen since.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Charisteas wrote: »
    They could have The Hardys return as a tag-team.

    I'd be surprised if either of them wrestles for TNA again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    I wish Hardy just did the fúcking jail time and got it over with. What's the difference? It wouldn't affect his job interviews with WWE or TNA! That said i'm sure his drug addiction has gotten the better of him. Who knows. I wonder if they've saved their money.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    i love how this story broke a day or two after wwe fire one half of their most over tag team in koslov and one half of one of the few tag teams fans saw as legit and not just thrown together (harry smith)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    I'd be surprised if either of them wrestles for TNA again

    I wouldnt. Both are big names despite their problems. If Jeff can get himself clean he's one hell of an assest. I dont know how long his contract runs for but if I'm TNA (Thankfully, I'm not) I'm letting it run all the way down in the hope that it'll get Jeff to do something before he finds himself unemployed. WWE wont take him back and apparently he doesnt want to even go back so TNA is really his only option if he wants to continue to wrestle. Matt Hardy likewise but minus the obvious drug issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭paddyismaddy


    roh is the best place now for tag teams tna isnt doing too bad but since guns are kinda over one is out injuried and the other is doing his own thing in the x division and beer money deserve singles pushes but for the wwe tag division where is it :rolleyes: all i can think of is the usos and nexus and they dont appeal to me

    speaking of jeff hardy do you think wwe would ever try and get him back he was super over when was there or has his real life drug antics ruined him forever?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead



    speaking of jeff hardy do you think wwe would ever try and get him back he was super over when was there or has his real life drug antics ruined him forever?

    If you believe Matt Hardy (Who obviously never lies :rolleyes:) then Jeff has no intrest in ever returning due to comments made after he left. Even TNA wont put him on TV now, I doubt WWE would even be seen talking to him.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    rovert wrote: »
    Your bimonthly report on WWE bringing back tag teams/crusierweights/managers/the A-Team:

    BUMP

    Guess what according to PWInsider Triple H wants to bring back the Crusierweights.

    See ya in two weeks time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    They seem to have intentions of building up the tag team division again judging by how much prominence they gave RAW SPOILER
    Kofi and Bourne winning the belts


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Pentecost wrote: »
    They seem to have intentions of building up the tag team division again judging by how much prominence they gave
    Kofi and Bourne winning the belts

    Give it a week and they will decide they arent over enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Then give the titles to Miz and Truth.

    Jaysus they were brilliant last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    The fact that the current tag belts use a bronze plate as opposed to a gold one really sums up WWE's attitude to their tag division at the moment. A third rate championship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Kevin Eck in creative is only a good thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭waltersobchak


    The fact that the current tag belts use a bronze plate as opposed to a gold one really sums up WWE's attitude to their tag division at the moment. A third rate championship.

    The fact they look like Trojan Condoms mascot doesn't help either.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    dsmythy wrote: »
    Kevin Eck in creative is only a good thing.

    For dirtsheet leaks aye.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    It doesn't matter what the Championship looks like. Look at the ashes in cricket.

    All that matters is how important a title is. If WWE make it important that is what people will think the titles are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,016 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Then give the titles to Miz and Truth.

    Jaysus they were brilliant last night.

    The working title for Miz and R-Truth's new tag team is Awesome Truth

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭jmolloy


    did anyone else notice how harsh on the tag team division jerry lawler was on raw? I can see this continuing for a while and then lawler introducing The Kings of Wrestling into the division, yes I think wwe will go down the easy lame spin off name route but still would be interesting


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    jmolloy wrote: »
    did anyone else notice how harsh on the tag team division jerry lawler was on raw? I can see this continuing for a while and then lawler introducing The Kings of Wrestling into the division, yes I think wwe will go down the easy lame spin off name route but still would be interesting

    Either that or Vince McMahon fed a line into Jerry's headset that was meant for Cole :pac:


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