Moving car to UK

hblock21

I am moving permanently to the UK in a few weeks time. I am not sure yet if I want to bring my car over. I may bring it over in a few months time or I may just sell it. But I have no idea how much VRT I would have to pay? Is there any straight forward website with these kinds of details?

What about tax and insurance versus Ireland?

hblock21

hblock21 wrote: »

I am moving permanently to the UK in a few weeks time. I am not sure yet if I want to bring my car over. I may bring it over in a few months time or I may just sell it. But I have no idea how much VRT I would have to pay? Is there any straight forward website with these kinds of details?

What about tax and insurance versus Ireland?

BTW, its a 2002 Honda Civic, 3 door

ARGINITE

What make and model car?
No VRT.
Tax and insurance is a fair bit less but it can be a fair bit of hassle.

hblock21

ARGINITE wrote: »

No VRT.

So what cost is involved regards changing the number plates?

Henry Ford III

Sell it here, and buy a better car over.

ARGINITE

Conformity cert, MOT, insurance cert and £50 for the DVLA. The conformity cert cost me £200.

Probably would be better of selling it there though.

YouTookMyName

ARGINITE wrote: »

Conformity cert, MOT, insurance cert and £50 for the DVLA. The conformity cert cost me £200.

Probably would be better of selling it there though.

My Car was first Registered up North and Vrt was paid in jan 2008. Would i still need a conformity cert even though the car once had a V5C?

Our man in Havana

YouTookMyName wrote: »

My Car was first Registered up North and Vrt was paid in jan 2008. Would i still need a conformity cert even though the car once had a V5C?

Possibly not. Only the DVLA can advise you there.

The big killer in moving cars to the UK is if the car is post 2005 with a kilometer only speedometer. The DVLA will not allow a car without mph or dual speedometer to be registered.

_Kaiser_

Our man in Havana wrote: »

The big killer in moving cars to the UK is if the car is post 2005 with a kilometer only speedometer. The DVLA will not allow a car without mph or dual speedometer to be registered.

I didn't know that - makes sense though!

I always thought it was stupid having km-only cars anyway, not least because we share a land border with a mph country! :rolleyes:

I'd much rather have noth on the dial - maybe km in the "dominant" upper row, but the old way was just fine too imo.

corktina

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Possibly not. Only the DVLA can advise you there.

The big killer in moving cars to the UK is if the car is post 2005 with a kilometer only speedometer. The DVLA will not allow a car without mph or dual speedometer to be registered.

Id not heard that but it would be a simple job to swap the speedo Id have thought.

ballsymchugh

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Possibly not. Only the DVLA can advise you there.

The big killer in moving cars to the UK is if the car is post 2005 with a kilometer only speedometer. The DVLA will not allow a car without mph or dual speedometer to be registered.

are you positive on this? my sister in law brought over a ZZ reg with a kilometer only speedometer and had no hassle registering it.

by the way OP, i'd do what Henry Ford said, sell it here and buy a better car over there. you'll get much more spec for your money.

corktina

i cant see any reference to thsi on the DVLA site, Im thinking that only applies to NEW vehicles.

Mac daddy

Make sure you have your certificate of conformity before you go!
Contact honda Ireland first and ask them how much.
Get a dual speedo that displays both kmh & mph.
Make sure you have your insurance cert ( and for insurance later your no claims cert )

if in doubt give the guys in the dvla a ring they are actually pretty helpful with answering these questions and ask them to mail you out the pack with all the paper work bits in it.

But if you can sell the car in Ireland and buy another in the UK instead you will get more car for less $$

_Conrad_

Don't bother you'll get another car in the UK for less then the stupid prices people pay here. Seems like a lot of hassle to go to just to bring over a run of the mill (perfectly normal, useable etc) car unles syou're massively attached to it

Dec009

My Fiance and I are moving to the UK as well. we are bringing over a 02 Mini One. The advise we keep hearing is to sell in Ireland and buy over there but we dont have time to sell before we go. So any advise on registering car in the UK would be a help.

Our man in Havana

Read the last 14 posts. Says it all.

Dec009

so sell in ireland before we go? Or sell in UK?

ballsymchugh

i'd sell in ireland. if you're running out of time, then ask someone trustworthy to sell it for you. you will do better that way.
but if you don't want to, then what you need to do is all above.

Dec009

Your advise seems spot on. just checking prices there. An 02 mini one (70,000 miles) in the uk costs €3,900. Where as in Ireland the same will set you back anything from €5,000 up. No contest really. Thanks for your help we really had no idea until this evening.

Dec009

Also does anyone know who are the best car insurance companies in the UK. I.E Those that offer cheapest rates? 30 year old female driving a mini one with a male 30 year old add on driver, would expect to pay what? Both full licence. Do you have to get uk driving licence? Will the irish suffice?

ballsymchugh

check the comparison websites.
www.gocompare.co.uk
www.confused.com
www.moneysupermarket.com

personally, i always found moneysupermarket gave the best results.

Marcusm

ballsymchugh wrote: »

check the comparison websites.
www.gocompare.co.uk
www.confused.com
www.moneysupermarket.com

personally, i always found moneysupermarket gave the best results.

How could you forget about www.comparethemarket.com which will currently give you a very exclusive meerkat toy if you buy through them!!!

Personally I have found that the comparison sites are now more or less quoting all the same companies and brokers.

dizzywizlw

I'm doing the same but I can't buy a car over there, that's not an option. The quotes I'm getting for fully comp are more that I pay here :eek:

What's this conformity cert? I found nothing about it on the DVLA website?

Have I got the list right?:
Tax- £130
MOT- £60?
Insurance- £1400 :eek:
Registration-?

I really was expecting to pay about £800 for insurance , my Irish insurance is €1500...

Our man in Havana

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022583

dizzywizlw

Thanks for the help, but I'm still a bit confused. My car is over 10 years old. What does that mean for 'evidence of type approval'

I read somewhere that if I'm taxed and registered in Ireland I don't need to do it in the UK?

I plan on ringing the DVLA tomorrow but I'm just trying to get a good grounding first.

Our man in Havana

Thanks for the help, but I'm still a bit confused. My car is over 10 years old. What does that mean for 'evidence of type approval'

They want a conformity cert.

I read somewhere that if I'm taxed and registered in Ireland I don't need to do it in the UK?

LOL! If you are relocating there permanently i.e. for more than 6 months you must register the car in the UK. The police won't be long taking your car if you attempt to adopt this foolhardy attitude.

I plan on ringing the DVLA tomorrow but I'm just trying to get a good grounding first.

They will tell you the same things as we have already.

dizzywizlw

Our man in Havana wrote: »

They want a conformity cert.

LOL! If you are relocating there permanently i.e. for more than 6 months you must register the car in the UK. The police won't be long taking your car if you attempt to adopt this foolhardy attitude.

They will tell you the same things as we have already.

Thanks, I thought it was 12months not 6, but I see it's 6month within 12 months. Does this conformity check cost a lot?


I might just get an NI reg before I go over...

Our man in Havana

I might just get an NI reg before I go over...

Would be a lot easier.

Dec009

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Would be a lot easier.

So is a NI reg ok to drive in the UK? I mean that you dont have to do anything else if you have a UK address? I am relocating to Merseyside.
Can i tax and insure it in NI with my UK address?

ballsymchugh

Dec009 wrote: »

So is a NI reg ok to drive in the UK? I mean that you dont have to do anything else if you have a UK address? I am relocating to Merseyside.
Can i tax and insure it in NI with my UK address?

yes, no and yes.

friend of mine in kent bought his car in derry and drove over. went to dover castle with him and another guy one saturday afternoon. there's a parachute reg barracks beside the castle, and this guy was trying to figure his way back to the main road while driving slowly past the barracks.
i was never so worried about being in a norn iron regged car before..

Dec009

I'm confused. Can you tax and insure a NI reg car with a UK address?

ballsymchugh

Dec009 wrote: »

I'm confused. Can you tax and insure a NI reg car with a UK address?

yes. NI is part of the UK.

they only have issues with cars from jersey as they pay their car tax through petrol afaik.

Our man in Havana

You used to have to re-register NI cars in GB, but not any more. NI regs are desirable on the mainland as they are dateless.

Dec009

I'll call the DVA in the morning.

maninaskirt

I've just done this and the big issue was you cant get a reg from the DVLA until you have a UK insurance cert, only Adrian Flux would cover me on the VIN number for 30 days until I got a UK plate, you will need the logbook, MOT, Cert of Conformity if it was not registered in UK/NI before, the manufacturer will supply this, and the Insurance Cert, getting insurance was pretty tough as most will not take your ROI No-claims or/and insure on an ROI plate....Adrian Flux did, but at twice the price!!!

MOT is no probs, the DVLA will issue you a replacement once you get your new reg and you can tax it while your there.

Hope that helps.

Dec009

Thanks maninaskirt. So prob best to purchase in the UK and avoid the extra insurance and hassle by the sounds of it. I'm call the DVA later on to get a better handle on the issue. Hopefully.

dizzywizlw

DVLA aren't answering, they just hang up when it's busy, not even a call hold :rolleyes:

I ordered the online pack but there was no option to mail in to the ROI, so I'm weighing up the cost of import against the cost of a new (used) car in the UK.

You would think given the large trade and people flows that there'd be some sort of car tourist visa or something

Our man in Havana

It simply makes no economic sense to take a used car to the UK as an export unless it is brand new.

The DVLA will not mail stuff outside the UK. Phoning them is a complete waste of time. All the required info is in this thread and online at direct.gov.uk .

Dec009

I tried ringing DVLA as well. Waste of time. All the info is on the UK Gov website and here on this forum.

I'm off to the UK to hopefully purchase in the next week or so. :eek:

Great value to be had from looking at uk auto trader v's the irish website Donedeal.ie.
From looking around Insurance will be the next challenge..:pac::pac::pac::pac:

dizzywizlw

Our man in Havana wrote: »

It simply makes no economic sense to take a used car to the UK as an export unless it is brand new.

The DVLA will not mail stuff outside the UK. Phoning them is a complete waste of time. All the required info is in this thread and online at direct.gov.uk .

I never said it does, but it's what I'm doing.

Direct.gov.uk provides links to have the forms mailed to you, not to download them AFAIK.

If the poxy insurers gave a 90 days foreign travel excess like in the UK, I'd be able to remain an ROI residence and drive in the uk :mad:

maninaskirt

Hi, you will get insurance on a UK/NI reg car with ROI No-Claims but you will have to be prepared to sit on the phone and call them all until your blue in the face, explain the situation to them before going through the quote process, another lad from Dublin that came over managed to get Admiral to cover him on a UK car after they took his ROI no-claims, but if all else fails Adrian Flux take anybody, you could use them just for the first year.

I used my car on ROI plates/Tax and Insurance for 4 months over here until I got sorted, FBD gave me dual cover for ROI/UK, AXA might too.

HTH.

Our man in Havana

ROI insurance covers the UK and Europe. They have no choice in the matter.

dizzywizlw

Our man in Havana wrote: »

ROI insurance covers the UK and Europe. They have no choice in the matter.

3rd party fire and theft though under the EU directive yeah ?

Our man in Havana

You are almost right, it is 3rd party risks only for the duration of the policy. Comprehensive and other benefits are at the whim of the insurance company.

n900guy

hblock21 wrote: »

I am moving permanently to the UK in a few weeks time. I am not sure yet if I want to bring my car over. I may bring it over in a few months time or I may just sell it. But I have no idea how much VRT I would have to pay? Is there any straight forward website with these kinds of details?

What about tax and insurance versus Ireland?

If it's your own private car, you won't pay any additional registration costs like VRT. You pay: £55 for the application, then £x for the road tax (this is way cheaper than Ireland), and then insurance (which can be way more than Ireland, but many companies will give you full credit for Irish NCB). You also need to have a passed MOT cert, so that's another £50 or so.

You don't need UK plates or registration to do an MOT, so it's easiest to do that first. Once you have that, get insurance. They will do this for a year contract but will allow the first 30 days to be on the chassis VIN and not a UK plate. Specific companies like Adrian Flux do this. Once you have MOT, insurance, VLC just go to motor tax office, pay the fee and then get plates made and away you go.

Our man in Havana

You forgot the all import conformity certificate.

dizzywizlw

Is http://www.eurococ.eu/en/ the only place where you can get a CoC?

Our man in Havana

Probably the easiest place. The manufacturer will probably supply one but it could cost a lot more.