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  • 08-08-2011 4:34pm
    #1
    Don17
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭


    Hi,

    i'm actually looking to spend about 400-500 euro on a watch.
    would prefer something a little bit different than the run of the mill manufacturers.
    I've been looking at these two sites
    http://www.stowa.de/

    And
    http://www.ocean7watchco.com/cs2/


    I also like moonphase watches if thats any help but am pretty open to suggestions

    Thanks


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    marcus1971
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭marcus1971


    Ever hear of Helson Watches?

    They have a range of nice sport watches, mostly dive watches.

    Their Sharkmaster is awesome, an homage to the Omega Grand.

    They usually only do a limited run of each style and the fit and finish is supposed to be very very good.


    http://www.helson-watches.com/


    OR you could support our own and buy Irish:

    http://www.saswatchco.com/
    (although good old rip-off Ireland seems to be in full effect still:

    Price 750.00 Euros for non EU customers

    Price 907.50 Euros for EU customers

    plus shipping (FedEx)

    VAT is included for EU customers at 21%

    (There should be no VAT added for EU sales outside the country of origin.)


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    peasant
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    To confuse you even more ...have a look at some russian watches

    90% of the watches on this site come in under or within budget
    http://www.poljot24.de/en/index.html

    loads to look at and think about


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    Bullseye1
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    Check out the 50th Aniversary Yuri Gagarni Watches including retros and chronos. I have to say I really like the Chronos but they retail at €799.
    http://www.vostok-watches.com/

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    Bullseye1
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    Here is a very nice "Traveller Watch"
    http://www.poljot24.de/en/pd-1498822970.htm?categoryId=2

    Screenshot2011-08-08at183624.png


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    Bullseye1
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    Thats not a bad looking Irish watch. It looks quite nice on the diving strap.


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    marcus1971
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭marcus1971


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Thats not a bad looking Irish watch. It looks quite nice on the diving strap.


    It does look good, as far as I know its release has been delayed and delayed for ages, they've been advertising it on WUS for a long time now, I totally forgot about them until today, might be worth a closer look.


    Another watch that has come out very recently to very good reviews and what is claimed to be the biggest advance in watchmaking since the introduction of quartz watches in the 70's, and no reason to disbelieve them....
    The Bulova Precisionist.
    http://www.bulovaprecisionist.com/en

    The continuous sweep on these is mesmerizing, much like the hummers from the 60's/70's, It is accurate to seconds/year and no one would ever guess its a quartz.
    There are many may different styles, I think most of them are awful...but there are some really nice designs in there too, something for everybody.
    Pricing is good, Bulova while not a high end brand are a respected brand and they invented this (similar) technology, in the form of a tuning fork driving the cogs, back in the 60's and it was latched onto by most med-high end watch makers.

    Heres a video of my Omega Seamaster from 1973 with a 300hz tuning fork movement (licensed by Bulova)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ8Bjsps7v8


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    emrys
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭emrys


    marcus1971 wrote: »
    Ever hear of Helson Watches?

    They have a range of nice sport watches, mostly dive watches.

    Their Sharkmaster is awesome, an homage to the Omega Grand.

    They usually only do a limited run of each style and the fit and finish is supposed to be very very good.


    http://www.helson-watches.com/


    OR you could support our own and buy Irish:

    http://www.saswatchco.com/
    (although good old rip-off Ireland seems to be in full effect still:

    Price 750.00 Euros for non EU customers

    Price 907.50 Euros for EU customers

    plus shipping (FedEx)

    VAT is included for EU customers at 21%

    (There should be no VAT added for EU sales outside the country of origin.)

    just ordered the shark diver 2000 - so if the op wants to wait a few days ill take a couple of pics and do a mini review..


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    marcus1971
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭marcus1971


    emrys wrote: »
    just ordered the shark diver 2000 - so if the op wants to wait a few days ill take a couple of pics and do a mini review..

    Did you go for the Orange or White lume?


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    emrys
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭emrys


    marcus1971 wrote: »
    Did you go for the Orange or White lume?

    orange!


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    marcus1971
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭marcus1971


    emrys wrote: »
    orange!

    ......as if you would even have to think twice about it.

    Never heard anything but great things about them on the Dive Forum over @ WUS,
    Great Choice, Good Luck With It.


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    Don17
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭Don17


    Thanks a mil for all the replies.
    Lots of food for thought there

    Are the Bulova's any good.
    Was looking at some of The Bulova Precisionist watches on ebay and they are goin for about 150 euro on the US sites. very nice watch.


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    Flashwatches
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Flashwatches


    marcus1971 wrote: »
    ......

    OR you could support our own and buy Irish:

    http://www.saswatchco.com/
    (although good old rip-off Ireland seems to be in full effect still:

    Price 750.00 Euros for non EU customers

    Price 907.50 Euros for EU customers

    plus shipping (FedEx)

    VAT is included for EU customers at 21%

    (There should be no VAT added for EU sales outside the country of origin.)

    This is not correct, if you buy anything within the EU it will have VAT included in the price, it is only when it is shipped outside of the EU that there is no VAT included in the price.
    For example if you buy a Stowa there will be VAT included in the price, but there is no import taxes when it reaches here. If you are living in the States and order a Stowa it will not have VAT included in the price but you will have to pay import taxes there. http://www.stowa.de/lshop,inline,131297719016528,en,1312977196-16566,,V-A-T-Payment,12,,.htm

    So the same would apply to SAS, the normal price would be €907.50 and if it was ordered from outside the EU they would get it "VAT FREE" and only pay €750.00. I remember seeing Amercians claiming their TAX back at the airport on things they bought here.

    The Vat rate is based on the country you are buying from, so if you buy the Stowa it will have 19% VAT included as that is their rate, if someone in Germany buys a SAS they will pay the 21%, it is not a very fair system, but that is how it works.


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    marcus1971
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭marcus1971


    Flashwatches wrote: »
    This is not correct, if you buy anything within the EU it will have VAT included in the price, it is only when it is shipped outside of the EU that there is no VAT included in the price.
    For example if you buy a Stowa there will be VAT included in the price, but there is no import taxes when it reaches here. If you are living in the States and order a Stowa it will not have VAT included in the price but you will have to pay import taxes there. http://www.stowa.de/lshop,inline,131297719016528,en,1312977196-16566,,V-A-T-Payment,12,,.htm

    So the same would apply to SAS, the normal price would be €907.50 and if it was ordered from outside the EU they would get it "VAT FREE" and only pay €750.00. I remember seeing Amercians claiming their TAX back at the airport on things they bought here.

    The Vat rate is based on the country you are buying from, so if you buy the Stowa it will have 19% VAT included as that is their rate, if someone in Germany buys a SAS they will pay the 21%, it is not a very fair system, but that is how it works.

    Thats interesting, while living in Ireland I never had to pay any kind of turnover tax/VAT on anything I bought from another EU member country - last time I can recall would have been in 2009 - the only thing they required was delivery must be to another juristiction, ie U.K. bought and delivered to Ireland, maybe its a case of if you don't ask you don't get?

    I have bought many things in Nothern Ireland and the U.K. in person and did on some occasions get the VAT discounted but had to supply my VAT reg #, which of course meant that anything I bought should be used in the running of my business

    (although this can be (?) a bit of a grey area with the revenue commissioners if the item is not bought with company money. I had lots of purchases I made relevant to a particular year that I had a random Revenue inspection and the revenue officer didn't pass any comment on it one way or another, as long as I didn't buy the item with the company cheque book as it were, maybe I was just lucky.....although this was in the days when everyone was rolling in money)

    I don't doubt that VAT should be charged, but I've never had to pay it in any of my dealings with member states as long as I asked, as far as I can remember anyway, I suppose in recent years everything has been tightening up a bit everywhere.


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