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Selling my car, anyone aware of scams on the go?

  • 08-08-2011 2:34pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭


    Hi i've just agreed a price with a guy to sell my car, i'm "slightly" nervous as at the moment I don't know where he lives and he's a non national, I can't see him having 11k in cash so what way should i ask for payment for security reasons? any tips would be appreciated thanx


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Hi i've just agreed a price with a guy to sell my car, i'm "slightly" nervous as at the moment I don't know where he lives and he's a non national, I can't see him having 11k in cash so what way should i ask for payment for security reasons? any tips would be appreciated thanx

    bank draft that you can lodge in a bank while you do business, orcash that you can lodge in a bank while ye do business.

    thats is all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭older i get better i was


    tnx, anyone else have any tips?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Just because a bank accepts a bank draft in a lodgement doesn't mean it's genuine, the people in the branches cannot validate it. It can take a week or two to clear the system during which it can come back as a dud in which case you are out of the money and the car.

    Take a look at this recent thread....

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056348982


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Have you met this guy yet? How have you been communicating? Phone / email?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    As in any sale, do not hand over the registration cert to him. Fill out his details and keep it yourself to stick in the post. A photo id with his address would be useful too. Even if he says he is buying it to sell on etc, Do not give him the cert. There are different procedures if selling to official trader but thats not the case here Im sure.

    Do not allow the situation to arise where they are in your car with your keys and the cash without you also being inside!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭older i get better i was


    yes have met him, i'll be speaking to him about a deposit today, so i'll ask for his address, anythin else maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,809 ✭✭✭edanto


    It would seem reasonable for you to tell him that you can only give him the car when the cheque/draft has cleared. These days, a piece of paper from someone you don't know isn't payment!

    If that doesn't suit him, then of course he's free to pay in cash which you can lodge and then give him the keys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    coylemj wrote: »
    Just because a bank accepts a bank draft in a lodgement doesn't mean it's genuine, the people in the branches cannot validate it. It can take a week or two to clear the system during which it can come back as a dud in which case you are out of the money and the car.

    Take a look at this recent thread....

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056348982

    they can if they just wrote the draft or if they are the issuing bank

    edit:

    ok i see what you're saying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭older i get better i was


    read that thread guys thanx, will tread carefully, still open to tips.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Just ring the issuing bank to satisfy yourself with the draft before handover. Buyer should be happy enough to provide details before you meet.

    "I'd like to confirm details of a draft you've issued....."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Tigger wrote: »
    they can if they just wrote the draft or if they are the issuing bank

    If the buyer and seller have accounts in the same bank then the solution is to transfer the money electronically in a single transaction. I was envisaging a draft being involved in a transaction where this was not the case.

    The thread I linked to above has a suggestion by me that the seller goes to the buyer's bank with him, stands at the counter and when the draft is handed over the seller takes it so that they know it's 100% genuine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    mickdw wrote: »
    As in any sale, do not hand over the registration cert to him. Fill out his details and keep it yourself to stick in the post. A photo id with his address would be useful too.

    Except in case, if he's not resident in Ireland, and buying a car for export.
    Then Reg. cert has to be handed over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    CiniO wrote: »
    Except in case, if he's not resident in Ireland, and buying a car for export.
    Then Reg. cert has to be handed over.

    Why would anyone buy a secondhand car in Ireland and export it when you can buy a similar car in the UK for half the price?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭Mar4ix


    if he has cash .. 11k ... go together to your bank, and log cash in to your account, if it works out fine, then sign logbook put in an envelope with shanon address and drop in postbox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Vertakill


    coylemj wrote: »
    Why would anyone buy a secondhand car in Ireland and export it when you can buy a similar car in the UK for half the price?

    Because currently you cannot buy a similar car in the UK for half the price.

    The majority of cars, especially 2.0 litre and upwards, are cheaper in Ireland at the moment when you take currency conversion, travel and VRT into the equation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Just ring the issuing bank to satisfy yourself with the draft before handover. Buyer should be happy enough to provide details before you meet.

    "I'd like to confirm details of a draft you've issued....."


    yes, good advice that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    I hope you're not the fella that we heard on liveline yesterday that was "selling" a car and after receiving 7 grand from a poor girl and then fecked off with the car and the money.........................;)B*****D.


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