Police Brutality in Ireland?

bitchstalker

I don't know about Ireland, but when I lived in the UK, the police used to beat the shiit out of people constantly, whether they had provoked attack or not.

Would you say generally, in Ireland, do the police use excessive force and if so it it justified in your experience?

AhSureTisGrand

I think they try but they're just not very good at it

A Primal Nut

I haven't seen evidence of them using it when its not justified. They generally conduct themselves well especially when protesters do everything in their power to provoke them to try to get the guards to respond and so they think they can win a propaganda coup, by claiming "police brutality" when they got a wallop.

RichieC

I tend to avoid getting in the way of their work.

starbelgrade

The Irish police are brutal all right, but not in the same sense as the British police.

Raze_them_all

Put it this way most cases where people here scream police brutality would have people in america pissing themselves laughing at us.

who the fug

bitchstalker wrote: »

I don't know about Ireland, but when I lived in the UK, the police used to beat the shiit out of people constantly, whether they had provoked attack or not.

How long ago was that (the 1880s), there has been a couple of isolated problems recently but to say they do it constantly is hog wash

bitchstalker

What I've heard is that the Guards are pretty good in that they only kick the shiit out of complete arseholes who deserve a beating, if that is the case then great, nothing wrong with that. But has anyone here had experience of this?

vampire of kilmainham

bitchstalker wrote: »

I don't know about Ireland, but when I lived in the UK, the police used to beat the shiit out of people constantly, whether they had provoked attack or not.

Would you say generally, in Ireland, do the police use excessive force and if so it it justified in your experience?

strange i never seen that when i lived in the uk

listermint

bitchstalker wrote: »

I don't know about Ireland, but when I lived in the UK, the police used to beat the shiit out of people constantly, whether they had provoked attack or not.

Would you say generally, in Ireland, do the police use excessive force and if so it it justified in your experience?

Well maybe if you werent pissing on the side of my Van at 4am in the morning and calling me a pig wankaaa I wouldnt have to slap you with my baton.

Wooopaaaa

cosmicfart

Irish police run scared from the bad criminals, drug dealers etc and when it comes to the real gangsters in this state, Bankers, Politicians and the like the cops are actually employed as bodyguards for these kunts paid for by the money you pay in tax.

WIZE

Im not sure but I know when I was a young teen in the 90s and were arrested for Knacker Drinking in Fields you got a few slaps for being cheeky

blackdog2

They definitely did in Lucan anyway, instead of being given an asbo/fine or whatever for a minor offence(in the scheme of things, I am sure that 16 year olds drinking is the scourge of Ireland and the sole cause of all ills befalling that proud nation) we were just bundled into a car/van, given a few slaps and dropped off at home.

Depending on the point of view of the poster on Boards, Gardai are either the scourge of the earth or angels sent from heaven itself, so expect 1 million replies and probably bannings on both sides of the fence

bitchstalker

who the fug wrote: »

How long ago was that (the 1880s), there has been a couple of isolated problems recently but to say they do it constantly is hog wash

You try going out on a saturday night in Glasgow, Newcastle or Leeds... and if you don't see a policeman beating up an innocent bystander, then you'll be lucky. Anyone from the UK will tell you that police brutality is engrained into British society always has been.

pragmatic1

A small minority.

arybvtcw0eolkf

I'd like to see 'em give a few more clatter's out, but apart from the younger lads who play a bit of GAA or rugby most of the other's couldn't kick crap off a stick.

who the fug

bitchstalker wrote: »

You try going out on a saturday night in Glasgow, Newcastle or Leeds... and if you don't see a policeman beating up an innocent bystander, then you'll be lucky. Anyone from the UK will tell you that police brutality is engrained into British society always has been.

More like pissed up coke heads trying to fight the world, being restrained using suitable force.

Kojak

The only brutality the gusrd do in this country is to try and catch you for a bald tyre on the car or the tax being out by 2 days.

0O7

cosmicfart wrote: »

Irish police run scared from the bad criminals, drug dealers etc and when it comes to the real gangsters in this state, Bankers, Politicians and the like the cops are actually employed as bodyguards for these kunts paid for by the money you pay in tax.

ya... thats exactly why alot of drug dealers, bad criminals etc are in prison and the prisoners are full????

sensibleken

theyre an awful lot better than the british cops. If anyone remembers reclaim the streets in 2003 when the police went mental beating the crap out of people (myself included) several cops apologised to be afterward for the behaviour of their colleagues.

I think a lot of it is that rioting is far more common in britain than here. Riots are extremely rare here, protests usually pass of peacefully, therefore cops tend not to be on a defensive footing as soon as theres a protest.

As for beating up randomers, it does happen usually for 'resisting'

Fratton Fred

bitchstalker wrote: »

You try going out on a saturday night in Glasgow, Newcastle or Leeds... and if you don't see a policeman beating up an innocent bystander, then you'll be lucky. Anyone from the UK will tell you that police brutality is engrained into British society always has been.

I have only ever heard of one person getting a kicking off a copper and that was after he broke a copper's nose.

A Met copper I know (who is also black) reckons the only people who regularly get a beating are pikeys and that is more to avoid wasting the time and effort of arresting and charging them.

blackdog2

bitchstalker wrote: »

You try going out on a saturday night in Glasgow, Newcastle or Leeds... and if you don't see a policeman beating up an innocent bystander, then you'll be lucky. Anyone from the UK will tell you that police brutality is engrained into British society always has been.

And rules/cultures that are in British Society tend to find their way across the Irish sea somehow

Mint Sauce

bitchstalker wrote: »

I don't know about Ireland, but when I lived in the UK, the police used to beat the shiit out of people constantly, whether they had provoked attack or not.

Would you say generally, in Ireland, do the police use excessive force and if so it it justified in your experience?

When was this, maybe during the 70's and 80's, certainly not though in recent years, unless it was justified, barr the odd isolated incident.

The people who shut police brutality over here should have thought about that before throwing a brick or petrol bomb at a police line. Even then try it in most other euopean countries, or the states, then maybe, just maybe could they say police brutality, they would have the sh!ite beat out of them there.

charlemont

RichieC wrote: »

I tend to avoid getting in the way of their work.

Well said, I tend to go by the logic of "If you don't bother them, They wont bother you".
Iv been on the receiving end of a fair few kickings in my time from Guards in my hometown and honestly I brought them on myself the majority of the time.

Most of our Guards are fairly sound, Sometimes people need a few slaps especially if the Guard involved has to deal with a scummy incident.
Investigating something like a murder must be stressful work so its only natural a man could snap and lay a few slaps on a suspect.

cosmicfart

0O7 wrote: »

ya... thats exactly why alot of drug dealers, bad criminals etc are in prison and the prisoners are full????

yea god dam them people who forget to pay/cant afford to pay speeding fines!!!

0O7

cosmicfart wrote: »

yea god dam them people who forget to pay/cant afford to pay speeding fines!!!

na, them people are the ones who get out straight away (few hours) as the prisons are full

St.Spodo

My only experience of police brutality was the extremely heavy-handed approach taken to stop the peaceful protest of the students in Dublin back in November. Now in general, I'd like to see police take no crap with scumbags but I believe they went for an easy target that day.

thebigbiffo

I'm from a small village in...go on...guess...

There was a couple of wayward teenagers from our rural area getting up to some petty criminality back in the 80's - the odd burglary, loads of vandalism, intimidation of old people etc. Everyone knew they were at it but nobody had proof.

So one day, 2 squad cars knock over from the county town with about 6 gaurds, they find the lads out walking and bundle them into the cars and bring them back to the station. They spent the afternoon kicking the **** out of them while sporadically throwing them in a bath of ice water to minimise bruising.

The petty criminality stopped and those lads never so much as littered from that day on - sometimes, a good bateing goes a long way.

cosmicfart

0O7 wrote: »

na, them people are the ones who get out straight away (few hours) as the prisons are full

yea but even after a few hours they have been 'exposed' to the underworld, the wrong side of the tracks as it were and they are tainted for life after seeing the horror of the prison showers first hand.

jimmyfish

ye it goes on here just no where near as much as the UK

dr.bollocko

Lets leave it at that as the constantly re-regging OP is getting on my tats.