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Rail development in my home town

  • 08-08-2011 7:59am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/roundup/articles/2011/08/07/53457-ambitious-plan-for-rail-travel/


    Not in Ireland regretably.

    Would that Rail in Ireland was the same sucess story that it is in the UK: Trains packed, extra capacity being created, new lines being built,freight blossoming.

    Could some bit of it happen here by selectively improving the bits that have potential rather than trying to put the clock back opening moribund routes through sheep-country.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    UK is always going be hamstrung by its loading gauge. They have the demand for double deck commuter trains but not enough headroom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Oliver Bulleid did that in 1949 before coming to CIE

    ixujo6.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    I[SIZE=-1]n December, 1950, it was decided that no more double-deck trains would be built. In practice it was found that the passengers had less room and less comfortable seats, and the ventilation was inadequate. The train had only a restricted use, and working was slower as there was only one door to 22 seats, instead of one door to ten or 12 seats on other suburban stock.[/SIZE]
    http://dart75.tripod.com/bddshis.htm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    i imagine there are double deck trains in the world that have overcome these problems and even if there arent I should think CAD would be able to produce a design that works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    There are absolutely double deck trains "in the world" that overcame it, just not built to UK loading gauge.

    For example, New Jersey Transit and Agence Metropolitaine de Transport (Montreal) jointly commissioned a lower-height multilevel coach from Bombardier to allow it pass through the Hudson River and Mount Royal tunnels which can't feasibly be deepened, but even that is 14'6" above rail - the Bulleid was 12'9". "Normal" Bombardier bilevels are even higher, 15' 11".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭CaptainSkidmark


    Any chance this could be a no pic no post topic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Co-incidence that's in Reading.

    I was looking at bringing my daughter and some of her friends to a festival this year, and ended up opting for Reading instead of Oxegen, for the very simple reason of public transport.

    The price of a budget hotel in a town close to Reading combined with an all-night train service for princely sum of £7 return compares very favourably when to BE's service for €20 into Dublin city centre in the middle of the night and then a taxi home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Just for Captain Skidmark, a rendering of AMT's ALP45DP diesel & electric loco pulling the above mentioned multilevels:
    BT-PR-20080818-AMT_Locomotives.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D




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