Mary Hanafin for President

raymon

There is talk of FF running Mary Hanafin as their candidate.

Unbelievable

Let us not forget

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=qtL06DVaZ00

galwayrush

Good grief.:eek:
Sorry, i don't have any suitable (for this forum) type response regarding her .

Rebel021

I can't think of anything to say

Dilbert75

No. That's just wrong.

raymon

Thought my eyes were playing tricks on me, or my mind

http://www.thejournal.ie/mary-hanafin-wants-to-run-for-aras-but-gaybo-still-out-in-front-195447-Aug2011/

Voodoo_rasher

oh let the Soldiers of Infamy indulge themselves in another Failure.

bonzos

Holy sh*it who next?????mammy O'Rourke?John O'Donoghue?Bertie?have FF no shame!

Rebel021

bonzos wrote: »

Holy sh*it who next?????mammy O'Rourke?John O'Donoghue?Bertie?have FF no shame!

They never had any shame on conscience

sollar

bonzos wrote: »

John O'Donoghue

Now that would be funny. Imagine the extravagance if he were President. He'd be sleeping on a bed made out of Gold.

anymore

Would she be bringing her mammy ?
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/euro20000-spent-on-overseas-trips-for-hanafins-mother-2363459.html

bonzos

She must be suffering withdrawal symptoms from not having the use of a chauffeur and the gov jet.Maybe we should set up a fund to help her adjust to the real world....Oh wait,Im paying into that fund already through my income tax every week. I always comforts me when I think about how MY tax is being use to look after this countries VIP's...i.e. Bertie,Harney,Neary,O'Rourke etc...:rolleyes:

bonzos

sollar wrote: »

Now that would be funny. Imagine the extravagance if he were President. He'd be sleeping on a bed made out of Gold.

He would probably give a speech that he built the arus

bijapos

I hope its true, and I hope that she does run. I'd get a great pleasure in seeing her face as the votes come in when she faces national humiliation.

And as I've said in another thread the more money FF throw at this election the less they will have at the next elections. Bring it on.

JonathanAnon

She wasnt even wanted as the leader of her own party.. Where did she finish.. fourth? She's delusional if she thinks she has a chance..

charlemont

Horrible woman.

Teclo

Ireland, where all the female politicians are Mary and all the male ones are Gay.

Sir Oxman

Teclo wrote: »

Ireland, where all the felame politicians are Mary and all the male ones are Gay.

Ah but there's one whos Gay & Mary and he awaits the clamour of his people! Say wha'?
(Only in Ireland)

Dirk Gently

bijapos wrote: »

I hope its true, and I hope that she does run. I'd get a great pleasure in seeing her face as the votes come in when she faces national humiliation.

And as I've said in another thread the more money FF throw at this election the less they will have at the next elections. Bring it on.

I have less faith in the Irish electorate. FF is a rural cult and if they put someone forward you'll still have "FF houses" voting for their person, especially when up against a blueshirt and a lefty. It's not logical but it is how a large part of the Irish electorate work. I wouldn't expect her to win but I wouldn't expect her to be humiliated either. Some people will still vote for a FF candidate.

ninty9er

To be honest about it, Fianna Fáil knows that the Presidency isn't attainable this year, but the grassroots need a morale boost, and there's nothing like taking a hammering at a doorstep to make you feel good about yourself that you're not as miserable as the gob****e abusing a canvasser.

Monty Burnz

Classic example in that Vincent Brown clip of a politician treating the public like morons, knowing that a certain percentage are. Who could listen to her lying through her teeth there, refusing to answer a question, and then go out and vote for her? That's an amazing video.

Dirk Gently

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Classic example in that Vincent Brown clip of a politician treating the public like morons, knowing that a certain percentage are.

you only have to look one post above to see what they think of the public.

Monty Burnz

RonMexico wrote: »

Beautifully typical of the cretin intellect and arrogance of Fianna Fail. I'd expect nothing less given that you are a longstanding crony of the party in Limerick. Willie O'Dea and his chums deserve every bit of abuse they get in Limerick.

That's why I'd consider Fianna Failure to be more of a cult than a political party: they stand for nothing, except winning power for its own sake. You can see that they changed nothing in the country in the last 20 years except to make the rich temporarily richer, and all of us poorer. They have no vision or direction - they just want power.

bijapos

charlemont wrote: »

Horrible woman.

Consider yourself lucky. I used to bump into her a lot when i was out for a morning jog. Had to change the route I ran which was a major pain in the arse. I had an insane urge to go over to her every morning and have a shout at her, didn't want to attract the attention of the guards.

charlemont

bijapos wrote: »

Consider yourself lucky. I used to bump into her a lot when i was out for a morning jog. Had to change the route I ran which was a major pain in the arse. I had an insane urge to go over to her every morning and have a shout at her, didn't want to attract the attention of the guards.

Ha Thats class, I think she would have made a good nun, A real strict one.

Monty Burnz

charlemont wrote: »

Ha Thats class, I think she would have made a good nun, A real strict one.

If she was born in Afghanistan, she'd have been an enthusiastic Taleban supporter imo.

whoopdedoo

bonzos wrote: »

Holy sh*it who next?????mammy O'Rourke?John O'Donoghue?Bertie?have FF no shame!

Dustin the turkey? I am being completely serious too

Arnold Layne

Her mother would probably fall in the Aras and sue the State yet again

the groutch

I'd say what I really think of her, but the amount of expletives I'd use would get me banned

Liam Byrne

ninty9er wrote: »

To be honest about it, Fianna FÃ႒¡il knows that the Presidency isn't attainable this year, but the grassroots need a morale boost, and there's nothing like taking a hammering at a doorstep to make you feel good about yourself that you're not as miserable as the gob****e abusing a canvasser.

Laughable!

People object to a representative of a corrupt party interrupting their evening and you guys still view it as the householder having the problem?

If a representative of the local drug-dealer arrived on my doorstep I'd be right in abusing them, because their actions are despicable and I detest what they represent.

But hey - keep your delusional high moral ground (irony) and we'll soon see the true colours of FF again, where it's all those nasty despicable public people's fault.

Didn't you say somewhere that you wanted reform? The above post proves that you don't - more of the same from FF where they won't even acknowledge real people's opinions of them.

Meanwhile maybe us miserable people might do you a favour and commit suicide ?

Then you could act all high-and-superior again and maybe win power again unopposed by people who recognise corruption and behave accordingly.

ninty9er

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Laughable!

People object to a representative of a corrupt party interrupting their evening and you guys still view it as the householder having the problem?

If a representative of the local drug-dealer arrived on my doorstep I'd be right in abusing them, because their actions are despicable and I detest what they represent.

But hey - keep your delusional high moral ground (irony) and we'll soon see the true colours of FF again, where it's all those nasty despicable public people's fault.

Didn't you say somewhere that you wanted reform? The above post proves that you don't - more of the same from FF where they won't even acknowledge real people's opinions of them.

Meanwhile maybe us miserable people might do you a favour and commit suicide ?

Then you could act all high-and-superior again and maybe win power again unopposed by people who recognise corruption and behave accordingly.

READ THIS CLEARLY

YOU. DON'T. KNOW. ME

You don't know the internal workings of Fianna Fáil and you don't know the efforts people like me are going to to reform our party.

Maybe if you could be bothered to get politically active and knock on a few doors for an unpopular political individual/movement you might have a little more respect and appreciation for the fact we're actually involved for the purposes of making this country a better place to live.

You don't have to believe me, and knowing your past attitude towards me I doubt you will, but keep hurling on the ditch there.

anymore

ninty9er wrote: »

READ THIS CLEARLY

YOU. DON'T. KNOW. ME

You don't know the internal workings of Fianna Fáil and you don't know the efforts people like me are going to to reform our party.

Maybe if you could be bothered to get politically active and knock on a few doors for an unpopular political individual/movement you might have a little more respect and appreciation for the fact we're actually involved for the purposes of making this country a better place to live.

You don't have to believe me, and knowing your past attitude towards me I doubt you will, but keep hurling on the ditch there.

To be very blunt I suggest that the real reason FF has been the party of choice for some many rotten politicians is because the rank and file are only too happy to tolerate them. If a patch of ground grows rotten fruit, find out what is wrong with the ground.

Arnold Layne

ninty9er wrote: »

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Laughable!

People object to a representative of a corrupt party interrupting their evening and you guys still view it as the householder having the problem?

If a representative of the local drug-dealer arrived on my doorstep I'd be right in abusing them, because their actions are despicable and I detest what they represent.

But hey - keep your delusional high moral ground (irony) and we'll soon see the true colours of FF again, where it's all those nasty despicable public people's fault.

Didn't you say somewhere that you wanted reform? The above post proves that you don't - more of the same from FF where they won't even acknowledge real people's opinions of them.

Meanwhile maybe us miserable people might do you a favour and commit suicide ?

Then you could act all high-and-superior again and maybe win power again unopposed by people who recognise corruption and behave accordingly.

READ THIS CLEARLY

YOU. DON'T. KNOW. ME

You don't know the internal workings of Fianna Fáil and you don't know the efforts people like me are going to to reform our party.

Maybe if you could be bothered to get politically active and knock on a few doors for an unpopular political individual/movement you might have a little more respect and appreciation for the fact we're actually involved for the purposes of making this country a better place to live.

You don't have to believe me, and knowing your past attitude towards me I doubt you will, but keep hurling on the ditch there.

So, what's in it for you?

ninty9er

Arnold Layne wrote: »

So, what's in it for you?

Having an input. There's a good social network too.

Arnold Layne

ninty9er wrote: »

Having an input. There's a good social network too.

An input into what? How to ruin the country if ye come to power again once the current debacle which FF caused has been solved?

I've seen & heard enough of the "good social network" that ye guys had when ye were in power, a la the Galway Tent & Cowen in the Ardilaun Hotel.

Go out there and canvas for Sean Gallagher, Gay Byrne, Mary Hanafin, etc., I won't give you abuse but you will certainly not get my vote in thielection nor any others until the day I die.

And then my children won't vote for your toxic party either.

Monty Burnz

ninty9er wrote: »

READ THIS CLEARLY

YOU. DON'T. KNOW. ME

You don't know the internal workings of Fianna Fáil and you don't know the efforts people like me are going to to reform our party.

Those anti-corruption reforms have been going on for quite a while, haven't they?

“We will not tolerate any deviation from the benchmark of honour at local level or in Leinster House, be it in the past, present or future. No one is welcome in this party if they betray public trust. I say this and mean this with every fibre of my being. We will write new ethics standards and independent enforcement into the law of the land.”

Bertie Ahern, Fianna Fail ard Fheis 1997

It sort of begs the question why you didn't just join one of the parties that isn't by far the most corrupt, and that actually stands for something?

NTMK

ninty9er wrote: »

To be honest about it, Fianna Fáil knows that the Presidency isn't attainable this year, but the grassroots need a morale boost, and there's nothing like taking a hammering at a doorstep to make you feel good about yourself that you're not as miserable as the gob****e abusing a canvasser.

you might want to drop the high horse mentality. the reason ye get abuse is because your party through the corruption, lies and incompetence cost people their jobs, their savings and in general put Ireland on a one way trip to default
I've no problem telling the people who have pissed on the legacy of 2 generations of my family to go **** themselves.

so while you call the people that made the mistake of electing your spineless TDs miserable gob****es you might want to take a look at why?

Reform wont happen until the party throw out the cancer that caused this mess and the grass root part of the party aren't exactly vocal about getting rid of martin and the others

Liam Byrne

ninty9er wrote: »

READ THIS CLEARLY

YOU. DON'T. KNOW. ME

You don't know the internal workings of Fianna Fáil and you don't know the efforts people like me are going to to reform our party.

Maybe if you could be bothered to get politically active and knock on a few doors for an unpopular political individual/movement you might have a little more respect and appreciation for the fact we're actually involved for the purposes of making this country a better place to live.

You don't have to believe me, and knowing your past attitude towards me I doubt you will, but keep hurling on the ditch there.

I'm not the one posting about making myself feel better by writing off valid opinions and concerns at people's doorsteps.

I've no idea how that's supposed to make Ireland a better place.

Maybe you might enlighten me? Maybe I've been delusional all this time re what's good for me, and maybe Ahern was right all along when from day one when his approach caused me to question his sanity and mindset?

Oh, hang on - history and facts are on my side in that regard re FF thinking they know what's best while completely dismissing sanity.

ninty9er

Liam Byrne wrote: »

I'm not the one posting about making myself feel better by writing off valid opinions and concerns at people's doorsteps.

I've no idea how that's supposed to make Ireland a better place.

Maybe you might enlighten me? Maybe I've been delusional all this time re what's good for me, and maybe Ahern was right all along when from day one when his approach caused me to question his sanity and mindset?

Oh, hang on - history and facts are on my side in that regard re FF thinking they know what's best while completely dismissing sanity.

I've no problem with valid opinions. I'll gladly spend time at a door with someone who is willing to listen as well as talk, but when it's a tirade of abuse, don't expect me to just stand there and take it.

Arnold Layne

Targeting the senile for votes so

end a eknny

Monty Burnz wrote: »

That's why I'd consider Fianna Failure to be more of a cult than a political party: they stand for nothing, except winning power for its own sake. You can see that they changed nothing in the country in the last 20 years except to make the rich temporarily richer, and all of us poorer. They have no vision or direction - they just want power.

can you name the party who doesnt want power and if you can then tell us why they exist

bmaxi

end a eknny wrote: »

can you name the party who doesnt want power and if you can then tell us why they exist

No problem with any party wanting power, it's abusing it I have the problem with.

Liam Byrne

ninty9er wrote: »

I've no problem with valid opinions. I'll gladly spend time at a door with someone who is willing to listen as well as talk, but when it's a tirade of abuse, don't expect me to just stand there and take it.

Then don't canvass for a corrupt party that reinstates perjurers; we'll both be happier.

The issue, however, is the attitude that you posted earlier, proving that nothing in FF has changed.

You might not want to "stand there and listen to crap", but neither do I; and someone trying to tell me that Martin reinstating the useless and lying O'Dea is "reform" is talking crap.

If you want to arrive on my doorstep and tell me that, then don't expect a welcome; it's your choice to canvass and who to canvass for, and someone not canvassing is far superior and more deserving of respect than someone canvassing for O'Dea and FF.

MadsL

Just a challenge: -

Mary Hanafin is, as far as I am aware - the singularly most insipid politician I can think of..can anyone supply me with a politician who has achieved less with over a decade in the Dáil. Can anyone in fact name me any Hanafin achievement?

Monty Burnz

end a eknny wrote: »

can you name the party who doesnt want power and if you can then tell us why they exist

Wanting power to improve our society, and wanting power for its own sake are two different things. Guess which camp Fianna Failure are in? They've ruined this country at least 3 times now. Morons will still vote for them though, because they 'are' Fianna Failure, or their parents 'are' Fianna Failure, or whatever.

Monty Burnz

MadsL wrote: »

Just a challenge: -

Mary Hanafin is, as far as I am aware - the singularly most insipid politician I can think of..can anyone supply me with a politician who has achieved less with over a decade in the Dáil. Can anyone in fact name me any Hanafin achievement?

Eamon O'Cuiv? Cock Roche? Conor Lenihan? Mary Coughlan? Noel Dempsey?

johngalway

I hope they do run her. It would be my utmost pleasure to not vote for that woman.

nesf

Out of the three FFers that have shown interest I think the only one I could bring myself to vote for would be Brian Crowley (he's pretty decent and doesn't have any history of the crap that went on in the party) but that's mainly because FG utterly screwed up and put an arch-conservative on the ticket who I wouldn't vote for if you paid me to do so.

efb

The irony or Ireland getting an ultra conservative President- Mitchell or Hannifan, urgh!

Wonder who the Indo's will come up with...

anymore

nesf wrote: »

Out of the three FFers that have shown interest I think the only one I could bring myself to vote for would be Brian Crowley (he's pretty decent and doesn't have any history of the crap that went on in the party) but that's mainly because FG utterly screwed up and put an arch-conservative on the ticket who I wouldn't vote for if you paid me to do so.

I wouldnt vote for him but have to say emailed him on a few occassions and he emailed reasonably comprehensive replies unlike his FG conterparts who passed the ball.

Voodoo_rasher

efb wrote: »

The irony or Ireland getting an ultra conservative President- Mitchell or Hannifan, urgh!

Wonder who the Indo's will come up with...

never mind the Indo's, they may row in with SF; i suspect SF will come up with a Game-changer who

ultimately can win. Still racking my brains who would be the euro-skeptic

that SF would approach since there has yet to be a candidate who voices a dim

view of eu bail-outs, loss of sovereignty..

(from a non-sf voter)