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The Mentored Shave - No. 1

  • 04-08-2011 12:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭


    Ok Guys, so here's what I got in the post today.... Yaay......

    P1030294.jpg

    Before I get started, I have some questions..

    What's the difference in Shaving Soap and Shaving Cream? As in, I have proraso shaving soap, and also Taylors Gentlemans shaving cream. Is there a different purpose for each of them, or are they both for lathering, and its just a case of preferences?

    I have three different blades here
    Gillette 7 O'Clock sharp edge
    Vidyut Supermax Super Stainless
    Persona Platinum

    Which ones should I use to start out with, or is it a case of trial and error?

    Below is what I've got currently. I was actually going to shave last night but once I knew this stuff was on the way I said I'd wait. Anyway this is the growth that's there currently. I'd like to say that I've been growing it for this experiment, but the truth is I never liked shaving and try to avoid it. I'm looking forward to trying a new method and hopefully enjoying it. Heres me with a gormless expression on my face for a self pic. Ignore the black dot, it was an accidental click on photoshop.

    P1030297.jpg

    Anyway, what's the best method of shaving what's there. I've read that you don't just hack it off, you should take it in a few passes to get it smooth. Do I lather in between etc....?
    Any methods etc.. that are proven and work would be appreciated.

    Also, if I get a cut or graze does the styptic match stop it instantly?

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    The difference between shaving soap and cream is a matter of preference - both are for lathering. I generally use the almond soap I got from Shaving.ie in a huge block, tear a bit off and use that for lathering. I find that I need a smaller amount of soap to produce a nice lather when compared to the cream. That all being said, Sandalwood T&B cream is a real "treat myself" lather, and the smell of it is divine :D

    I started out with Personas, moving on to Derby, Gillette, Wilkinson Sword and now Feathers (ninja-assassin sharp is right :p). To be honest I didn't notice much of a difference between the first 3 except for how quick they went blunt; Derby blades appeared to go blunt and start ripping hairs after 4 or 5 shaves, the others went the full 6 and sometimes beyond if the blades were stropped.

    To start off, clean the brush and razor with some very hot water. Just a quick rinse, nothing too mental but you never know what's on it from the factory etc. Get used to your equipment, examine it and look at it. Test out the razor by making a pass over your face with no blade in it to get a feel for it.

    Then when you're ready, pop in the blade you choose making sure the cap goes on properly. Fill the sink with hot water - water that's hot and maybe slightly uncomfortable for long periods of exposure are what I prefer. Then drop the brush in to soften it up, and start scooping the water up onto your beard to soften the hairs. Alternatively, shave during/after a shower when the pores are open and the hear is nice and soft.

    Grab your bowl/utensil you're going to mix your lather in and put an almond-sized lump of cream or soap in. Take the brush, squeeze excess water from it and put it in the bowl and start mixing. Mix it up until it goes peaky. If it's too wet then you didn't squeeze enough water out, not to worry - add more soap/cream. If it's too dry, add a few drops of water. It takes practice to get the right later that sticks to your face and isn't too dry/wet but you'll get the hang of it soon enough.

    Once the lather is done, apply it to your face. Use the brush to slap it on, and rub it around your face in a circular motion; wax on without the wax off bit. You should have a nice beard of lather :D Some people store the bowl in the water to make a warm bowl with warm lather but I don't so it's up to you. Rub the lather around for a good minute, applying more/taking some off where necessary.

    Take your razor, open it up slightly by twisting the end if it's adjustable (don't go mad aggressive on your first go) or if it isn't adjustable, don't go at such a steep angle. Place the head of the shaver (the rocker as I call it) flat to your face, angle/rock it down slightly, lock your wrist into place and move your arm down for a complete stroke.

    It isn't a Mach 3 razor, there is no forgiveness so never have the blade handle vertical like you would, don't move as fast as you would and also don't move your wrist once you get rock it down to the chosen angle - you could give yourself a bit of a cut. To shave, you move your arm and not the wrist.

    Don't go over the same spot more than once in a "pass". If you miss a bit, get it on the next pass. Re-lather between passes. Pay attention to how your beard grows on your face (e.g. down on cheeks, near the chin it grows sort of sideways, growing up on your neck etc) and this will feed into the direction you shave in on those parts to get the best shave. Take special care on your upper lip.

    Personally I use 2 with-grain passes, and 2 against-grain passes (or 1 if I'm in a rush). 10 minutes is what I have it down to now, though I could cut it down more but I enjoy everything about the DE shave so why rush a good thing?

    If you nick yourself, I recommend waiting to finish the pass before addressing it except if it's really bad. Clean the area around the cut, wet the tip of the styptic pencil and rub the cut. It'll sting, but the bleeding should stop pretty much instantly. Most small nicks are unnoticeable after you pencil them and let the redness subside (usually takes an hour for me). Other, bigger nicks will just look like regular shaving cuts - this is why you should take your time as a beginner, nobody wants a face like you just let edward scissorhands give you the once over

    When you're done, rinse the brush with cold water until it runs clear. Shake off the excess water and hang the brush up. I hang mine on the stand facing down to let anything else drip off but it's up to you, others sit it on a shelf upside down (bristles up) to dry. Rinse the razor, and mind yourself off the blade. Then clean off your face with cold water and apply post-shaving cream/aftershave balm/moisturiser.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    Here are a two good videos to watch.

    How To Build And Apply Traditional Shaving Lather

    The Ten Minute Traditional Wet Shave

    He has many other good videos on shaving so hopefully you'll find somrthing of use in them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    hitemfrank wrote: »
    Here are a few good videos to watch.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7Aj9vwrtc&feature=relmfu

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qSIP6uQ3EI

    He has many other good videos on shaving so hopefully you'll find somrthing of use in them.

    Highly recommended, I still remember the "Don't bear down" bit when I shave :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Thanks TV, all good so far. I don't have any after shave stuff, so can someone recommend one i can get in the likes of Tesco's or dunnes or a chemist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    I bought an Alum Block very recently from Shaving.ie, they might be available in a chemist though. You just leave your face wet after cleaning off the lather and rub the block on it. Depending on the agressiveness of the shave it can really sting, but it's a pleasant sting if that makes sense :p I've also got Proraso post shaving cream that I use on occassion but it's quite expensive so since you're starting off you might give it a skip and use generic aftershave balm.

    I usually go with the Alum Block, go get dressed or whatever and then come back, wash off the alum residue (completely unnoticeable, but leaves your skin somewhat shiny), moisturise my face with Nivea for men moisturiser, splash on the aftershave and out the door :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    The Boots near me have some of their own brand after shave as well as some others - Gillette, Adidas (I think), Brut, Old Spice Whitwater and a few others. I would suggest you go into your local boots and have a look.

    I've never looked in Dunnes or Tesco for after shaves but they may have some.

    Having checked Tesco.ie it looks like they carry the Gillete and Old Spice Whitwater so you'd have to check your local Tesco to see if they have it in store.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Aftershave I always think of as the 'make me smell nice bit'

    I recommend the Proraso pre and post shave:
    http://www.shaving.ie/products/Proraso-Pre-and-Post-Shaving-Cream.html

    Wonderful cooling effect after shaving, and great 'numbing' effect when used as a pre-shave. Great product. Lasts ages too.

    The procedure for the proraso soap by the way, don't try and lump it in the bowl. Just wet brush (or soak brush whilst you have a shower or hot towel) squeeze brush almost dry, shake brush into bath/sink. Now swirl in the pot..it will pick up the soap (proraso is kind of a cream really) now lather in bowl or on face. The bowl doesn't have to be fancy. I use a 1.99 stainless small pet bowl :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Thanks Mad. I popped into boots today, and surprisingly they had rather a poor selection of things. I picked up this stuff.

    111_1_extra_soothing_balm_pack1_2.jpg

    I don't want to spend too much at the moment since I don't know anything about this. Hopefully this shave this evening will go well and things will improve. Then I'll be looking to get some decent materials for myself if I'm going to make this a permanent thing. Will update later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    Thanks Mad. I popped into boots today, and surprisingly they had rather a poor selection of things. I picked up this stuff.

    111_1_extra_soothing_balm_pack1_2.jpg

    I don't want to spend too much at the moment since I don't know anything about this. Hopefully this shave this evening will go well and things will improve. Then I'll be looking to get some decent materials for myself if I'm going to make this a permanent thing. Will update later.

    I've used that stuff when I was shaving with a Sensor Excel. It worked ok. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Ok.

    So I decided to kick off with the Proraso Shaving Soap. I did have a bit of trouble getting a lather made up, but I wasn't using enough soap. I tried getting some on the brush from the tub, but I started making a lather in there, so i took a bit out into my mug and went from there. Not sure if I did something wrong there.

    I used the Persona platinum blade. I was ever so cautious with this, as I was conscious of the fact that i could cut myself quite easily. I made three passes, with the last one against the grain re-lathering in between. I did manage to miss a few bits here and there, but I found it difficult rounding the bottom of my chin from the neck up to my face without changing the angle of the razor, so not sure if that's something I'm not doing or if it just needs practice.

    Couple of nicks with the blade, but only tiny ones. Those matches are great. I know its working when I can feel the sting...:D

    My OH has said that she's never seen a shave as close before on me. Even when I've shaved before its been nothing like this. The Proraso soap must have menthol or something in it, because it was cooling my face all the time. Not sure if i like that or not, but at the minute its just 'different' I'll go for the Taylors Cream next.

    Quick rub with the Nivea balm and I feel 'fresh' if you will. I know I shaved, and its really smooth. I can feel it on my face and I feel good and fresh now. Babies bum, if you will.

    So, do I like it.... I think I do. I mean that as in I didn't dislike it, but I was nervous the whole way through the process as it was the first time. I'll definitely be doing it again, and hopefully I'll not be as nervous as I was today.

    Need to work on catching all of the hairs on my neck too...

    Finished result:
    Can you tell the difference?

    P1030300.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Ok. So I decided to kick off with the Proraso Shaving Soap. I did have a bit of trouble getting a lather made up, but I wasn't using enough soap. I tried getting some on the brush from the tub, but I started making a lather in there, so i took a bit out into my mug and went from there. Not sure if I did something wrong there.

    Nope, all fine. Your brush is new too so will take a while to break in. If it is animal stinky by the way that will fade - give it a few washes with shampoo - it helps.
    I used the Persona platinum blade. I was ever so cautious with this, as I was conscious of the fact that i could cut myself quite easily. I made three passes, with the last one against the grain re-lathering in between. I did manage to miss a few bits here and there, but I found it difficult rounding the bottom of my chin from the neck up to my face without changing the angle of the razor, so not sure if that's something I'm not doing or if it just needs practice.

    Chins are a pain. Wait til you try with a straight! Try to think about the facets, shave the flat bits then change the angle for the next flat bit, take it slow - also pull the skin you need to shave to somewhere flat. That helps.

    Couple of nicks with the blade, but only tiny ones. Those matches are great. I know its working when I can feel the sting...

    The sting is the initiation - you have joined the brotherhood! :)

    My OH has said that she's never seen a shave as close before on me. Even when I've shaved before its been nothing like this. The Proraso soap must have menthol or something in it, because it was cooling my face all the time. Not sure if i like that or not, but at the minute its just 'different' I'll go for the Taylors Cream next.

    It has menthol - I like it a lot now but it took getting used to..
    Quick rub with the Nivea balm and I feel 'fresh' if you will. I know I shaved, and its really smooth. I can feel it on my face and I feel good and fresh now. Babies bum, if you will.

    BBS is what we are after....
    So, do I like it.... I think I do. I mean that as in I didn't dislike it, but I was nervous the whole way through the process as it was the first time. I'll definitely be doing it again, and hopefully I'll not be as nervous as I was today.

    It does get easier, like riding a bike.
    Need to work on catching all of the hairs on my neck too...

    Make sure you know which way the grain is going...

    Finished result:
    Can you tell the difference?


    Awesome for first shave. *High Five*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I threw in the TOBS shaving cream as I thought you might like to experiment. You can use a 50:50 mix of cream and soap too. I threw in the unscented so you can mix it up and not have a weird mix like Proraso and Sandlewood.


    The rest of the range is great though...

    http://www.shaving.ie/products/Taylors-of-Old-Bond-Street-Shaving-Cream-Tubes.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Thanks. I'll give the TOBS stuff a whirl next. I'll have some spare time on Saturday evening and I should have sufficient stubble back again to have another crack.

    Is a Straight a 'cutthroat' one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    One more thing.

    The one Major difference I noticed, is any time i shaved before it was alway an uncomfortable experience. Weather or not I had left it for a while or was just stubble, there would always be tugging and pulling on the hairs and discomfort in general.

    I was amazed when I tried the DE. It just glided over the hairs effortlessly each time. No tugging or pulling at all..... Wow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    A 'cut-throat' is indeed a straight razor.

    If you find that your DE blade does start to tug or pull that's the sign to change the blade.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Buford T Justice don't worry about the whole nervous thing when shaving with a DE, it'll pass.

    I remember the first time I got my Merkur progress and I shaved with it, I was so worried that I'd cut the crap out of myself but after a short while you get comfortable with handling the razor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭gaza123


    On the finding it difficult to get a later with soap bit... Do you by any chance live in a hard water area? I've taken to microwaving some filtered water in a mug then taking it out soaking my brush in that.

    The brush needs to sit in some hot water for a few mins, I've found it makes a difference, I think it causes the bristles to hold more water.

    The nicks are normal. Might be the wrong blade for you. Not your soul blade :D. I'm new myself and just shaving with the grain for the time being till I've got my technique down. Tried against a couple of shaves ago and got aweful ravor burn. The same as when I tried against with the fusion before. Against grain might not be for everyone. Besides if you just shave with the grain you have to shave more often, or should I say get to shave more often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Buford T Justice don't worry about the whole nervous thing when shaving with a DE, it'll pass.

    I remember the first time I got my Merkur progress and I shaved with it, I was so worried that I'd cut the crap out of myself but after a short while you get comfortable with handling the razor.

    ^
    This! It happens with everybody, I thought I'd end up looking like something out of Sweeney Todd for the first good few shaves. Ever so slow ;)

    I'm afraid I have something to admit, I'm not proud but I completely wimp out on my chin with the DE razor and go with a Mach 3, especially against the grain. There's only so many nicks you can give yourself before you get fed up :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Ok, so I decided to go for shave no. 2 this evening.

    I decided to change it around today and I went for the Vidyut Supermax Super Stainless blade, and a kinda 50/50 mix of Proraso and TOBS for a lather.

    Again, I used mainly the same methods as last time and did the shave in three passes.

    I did notice that when I was shaving the sides of my face to start with that I was applying a little to much pressure with the razor instead of just letting it glide across my face. So I rectified that.

    Although, if I could describe this shave in one word it would be - Horrific!! Yes, that's right, Horrific.

    My chin and above my lip were cut to shreds, and i had mad razor burn afterwards. I felt at one stage that I was nearly rubbing the styptic pencil over my whole face. I think i did everything exactly the same as I did last time, in three passes with the last one against the grain.

    I'm not sure if i ended up doing this shave completely pie eyed or if it was the fact that I used a different blade. i think it was the blade, but I'm a novice at this so I'm not so sure.

    Question: Is it better to go with short, fairly quick strokes or long slower strokes when shaving? (Sorry to make this sound like a porn script :D)

    This shave certainly wasn't a pleasant one and at the end I was just glad to be finished it. If it was the first shave I had then it would have put me right off.

    Any suggestions / feedback lads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    Different blades can certainly be different for different people. So that could be one of the reasons.

    You could also not try going against the grain until your technique is spot on. Just do with the grain and across the grain passes.

    Also try slow short strokes and see if it helps. If it doesn't try a different blade.

    How was your lather this time? Not prepering the skin enough before shaving can have a surprising effect on your shaves. If you are not already, shave after you've had a shower and see if that helps at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    +1 on the prep.

    Hot towel is easy too for beard prep.. wet towel, wring out, 1m30 secs of so in the microwave. Flap it a bit. Lie back and enjoy for 3-4 mins.

    At a bare minimum wash your face in really hot water for 30 secs or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    hitemfrank wrote: »
    Different blades can certainly be different for different people. So that could be one of the reasons.

    You could also not try going against the grain until your technique is spot on. Just do with the grain and across the grain passes.

    Also try slow short strokes and see if it helps. If it doesn't try a different blade.

    How was your lather this time? Not prepering the skin enough before shaving can have a surprising effect on your shaves. If you are not already, shave after you've had a shower and see if that helps at all.


    Cheers guys. I think my lather was ok, but again I'm learning here. I thought it would have been the blade since I thought everything else was the same except for the blade, and people have said that different blades on different people......... We'll see next shave.....

    Hot towel... I like the idea of that......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭gaza123


    I've found that changing from foam to soap lather takes a bit of getting right. One problem for me was it was actually sliding down off my face slowly. I put this down to a layer of water on my face from just having washed it. So started giving it 20-30 seconds between wash and later to drip dry off a little and the lather sits much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    gaza123 wrote: »
    I've found that changing from foam to soap lather takes a bit of getting right. One problem for me was it was actually sliding down off my face slowly. I put this down to a layer of water on my face from just having washed it. So started giving it 20-30 seconds between wash and later to drip dry off a little and the lather sits much better.


    I washed my face before I made up the lather, so it had time to drip and run off as it were. I think next time I'll just go back to the way I started with on the first shave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand we are back in Business.

    Today, I decided to have a shower and then a shave as has been suggested to me.

    I decided to go back to the original blade I started with, which was the Persona Platinum. I used a 50/50 mix of the proraso and the TOBS again as a lather. (Question, does the lather tend to fizzle out in the bowl when its left sitting as you're shaving, is it normal?)

    I made three passes again this time, with the last one against the grain. It went very well for me. I had a tiny nick on my chin, but I managed to get a lot more this time than I have in the last two shaves I had. Missed a tiny bit of my underside of my chin, but not noticeable and it was only after I had washed up I noticed.

    So, the end result was a very close shave, with no razor burn or anything.

    I was also careful with my technique and not to put too any pressure on the razor itself.

    I'm not sure if it was the shower, the blade or my technique or all three but it was great. I enjoyed shaving this time, and I fnid that I'm not letting it grow past a bit of stubble before I'm shaving it again.


    All good so far.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Good stuff. I find just shaving out of the shower really makes a difference.

    How is the skin stretching going? Two handed shaving helps get closer I find.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    MadsL wrote: »
    Good stuff. I find just shaving out of the shower really makes a difference.

    How is the skin stretching going? Two handed shaving helps get closer I find.

    I've not actually done any skin stretching yet. I'm having a bit of fun with the facial contortions I have to make to get around the chin and nose etc.....

    Might try the stretching a bit tho....

    I'm kinda almost a bit apprehensive about trying out the Gilette blades I have, since it went so badly last time on a different blade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭gaza123


    Good stuff! The skin stretcing helps get closer, but it's also good for shaving the awkward zones. You can kind of pull the skin and hair that would be over say your Adams apple(always a bitch for me) down or up or to a side so it's flat and less likely to nick.

    On another note... Tried feathers for the last couple of shaves. They're savage. I didn't find them to be lightsabre dangerous but keep in mind your razor may be more aggressive than mine(or anyone who says they're not that bad) when you get around to trying them. There's got to be a reason for their rep, probably because they're so flippin good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    :) There's a good reason Feathers don't feature in the newbie pack :)

    If you are shaving without the shower prep - here's a tip on a quick alternative..



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    MadsL wrote: »
    :) There's a good reason Feathers don't feature in the newbie pack :)

    Ah yes, and I found that out early on. I scared the carp outta myself with a feather blade after only a few weeks of shaving. Although now, a year later, I'm using Feathers as my regular blades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    Buford, the offer I made to Smokeyskelton in the other menntored shave stands for you too;

    When you have used each of your sample blades send me a PM with your address and I'll send you some other blades to try out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Cheers Hitemfrank, will send you a PM shortly.

    OK, so for shave number 4, here's how it went:

    I watched all the videos again to see what I should be doing by comparison to what I am actually doing.


    I decided today to try the hot towel prep. Put a little soap on the brush and made a small later on my face. I wet a facecloth, well a cloth anyway but it was the same job. I used water as hot as I could stand and held it against my face for a minute or two, reheating it along the way.

    I whipped up some more lather, using more water than I did last time, the brush was more saturated than it was before and whipped up some proraso (really getting to like it now)
    For blade, I decided to go with the gilette 7'O Clock this time. Made some lather as usual and put some on my face. When I started shaving the razor was bouncing along my face, almost like there was not enough lather on my face. So from the last experience I had I thought it was the blade so I changed it back to the first one I used the Persona Platinum. It actually turned out that the later was too wet, so I added some TOBS into the mix. Turns out, I like the mix of TOBS and proraso much better.

    Anyway, once I mastered the lather this time it was shave as normal - I went back to the Gilette blade. Small nick above my lip but nothing major. I found it a bit more difficult this time to get all the bits I had less trouble getting at the last time. My face also felt a bit hotter afterwards even with some balm on it. I tried a bit of stretching and so on, and it was a close shave. However, this morning when I got up it didn't seem as close as it has been before with previous shaves. All in all, a good shave but I do thin that the first blade I used so far was the best one. Will wait to try more blades and see how it goes.

    What's the talk of feather blades? What are they about? I hear lots of people talking about them here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    feather blades are the ferraris of the shave world, right now you are learning in a micra.

    Steer clear until you have a 3 pass shave perfected I'd say. Japanese scary sharp blades aren't all that novice friendly.

    Trust that your razor is sharp regardless of brand. Your technique isn't sharp yet, but it will be - when that comes, try the Japanese stuff. For now I'd concentrate on prep, no pressure, blade angle, and shaving the facets of your face.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭gaza123


    MadsL wrote: »
    feather blades are the ferraris of the shave world, right now you are learning in a micra.

    I've read reviews saying their sharpness is exagerated, and I'm yet to even nick myself with them yet. Have a feeling they're just really good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭gaza123


    If you feel like jumping in the de deep end pm me your addy and I'll post you a couple of feathers. Against daddy mads better judgement I'd say. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Cheers to Gaza and Hitemfrank, I got some new blades in the post today.

    Decided I'd start this evenings session with one of my new blades....

    Bolzano Superinox

    I'm getting the hang of the shave now, and finding my own little bits. Like, I much rather using a mix of TOBS and proraso to shave with. I like the smell...

    As the videos suggested, I leave the mug in hot water while I'm shaving and after the first time flooding it, I'm more careful now. I almost don't like the feeling now of the cold lather.....:D

    All in all, a good enough shave, with two nicks only. My face does feel a little 'scraped' if you will, but not bad.....

    Still though, the first blade I used the Persona Platinum is the winner so far. Best shave yet.

    That said, I've a few more to go to try out yet....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    So, another shave down and against the advice I got here I had a shave with a feather blade I was given.

    I'm really getting the hang of things now. Especially the Lather, as I was having trouble with it early on. Although, i really like the 50/50 mix of Proraso and TOBS. TOBS doesn't smell... 'nice' for want of a word. It does however imo smell 'manly' and thats why I like the mix.

    As for the shave.. very close and I am getting the technique down now I'm missing less and less these days. I found the shave a little tougher on the skin this time and I had two nicks - which in fairness is the same or less than I've had before.

    So far, the Persona is still the winner for me, but then I have more blades to try.......

    Watch this space.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭gaza123


    I've recently finished my 5th shave with the feathers and was starting to get a little bit of burn from shaves so decided time to replace. Went back to my first blade, the Gillette 7 O'Clock, from my sample pack... 2 nicks. Didn't see blood once with the feather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Figured out also that one of the reasons I was having trouble with the lathering was because the proraso was too dry. I didn't know you were supposed to soften the soap first before trying to get some of it out with the brush.

    Once I did that, I was away with the later, just like in Manics videos.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,830 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    I've mentioned a couple of times that I completely immerse my bowl of Wool Fat soap in the sink of hot water while I apply pre-shave cream. Softens it up nicely for lathering.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Got my technique down at this stage I'd say. My brother is getting married on friday so for safety's sake I've decided to go back to the persona platinum to prevent facial damage, and tbh I think its the blade for me. I had a quicker shave tonight, again two passes WTG and one ATG and I've had a lovely close shave, and as I go on I'm missing less and less bits too.

    Yaay for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Giant Kiwi


    Well done Buford,

    Shaving this way is better than getting a hot towel shave from someone who doesn't know the lay of the land before your brothers wedding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Giant Kiwi wrote: »
    Well done Buford,

    Shaving this way is better than getting a hot towel shave from someone who doesn't know the lay of the land before your brothers wedding.

    I know. Don't want to end up like edward scissor hands was shaving me :eek::eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    About six weeks into the Mentored Shave- how are we doing? Ready to pass the torch along?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Indeed yes. Put it this way, I'll not be going back to the old method anyway so consider me converted. Certain amount of pleasure to shaving this way I have to say.

    Must have a mooch on shaving.ie now and buy some kit for myself.

    What do I need to sterilize and what do I need to replace? (My head is a bit mush today) I can replace bits and get my own kit at the same time from the website.

    I'll also pass along all the blades that I've not used too. I'm quite happy with the persona platinum.


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