Rory McIlroy likely to return to PGA Tour in United States

Trampas

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/golf/14392963.stm

Not surprised since he hasn't played much around europe this year.

I say we will see him for the middle east swing. wentworth and probably france or scotland before the open

irish open and maybe one or two near the end of the season depending how he is doing in the race.

pity he is moving back.

mike65

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/aug/03/rory-mcilroy-us-pga-tour

The superstar of European golf is heading west. Rory McIlroy, ever surprising and ever his own man, served up a surprise on Wednesday when he revealed that he intends to join the US PGA Tour and set up a home in Florida.

The 22-year-old Northern Irishman, who won the US Open in spectacular style this summer, announced that he wants to play a "full schedule" in the US next year, adding that he sees his long-term future centring on the US PGA Tour.

"I feel as if I play my best golf over here. I am very comfortable in this country and I am going to look at a few houses in Florida after [next week's] US PGA [Championship]," he said, on the eve of the Bridgestone Invitational in Akron, Ohio. "I'm definitely looking at coming back and playing a full schedule here. I've thought about it and feel my game really suits playing courses over here. I love Quail Hollow, Memorial, Akron. You play Match Play, Honda, Doral, Masters – you have your favourite events and most of my favourite events seem to be on this side of the pond."

McIlroy's decision represents a startling volte-face. At the end of 2010 he gave up his US PGA Tour membership after just one year, citing fatigue. "It is just not for me," he said at the time. Two of his three professional wins have come in the US – at Congressional in June and at Quail Hollow last year, when he shot a final-round 62 to beat one of the best fields of the year.

SSK

The break up with the missus is obviously a factor/result of this.

TBH it makes sense, the courses for the big events over there are set up perfectly for him and the Americans are absolutely gaga for him. I was in New York working a couple of weeks after he won the US Open and all anyone wanted to talk about when they heard I was Irish was "Rooooorrry"

Tones69

Could see that coming, can understand too, he prefers it over there, nicer weather, more money, why wouldnt he

blackwaterfish

hauld on a sec

didnt yan mcilroy fella not give it serious sauce right after the ryder cup that he was a european tour man through & through?... and all the scribes had a drooling session about how great it was to see such loyalty from one so young?

or was that a dream i had?

chubby needs to get his **** together and manage this youngfella maturely.

the poxy sun & the mirror and the like will have a daily "rory watch" piece before long.... hope he's not becoming a tabloid editors wet dream.

on a slight tangent:

has anyone heard the rumour that rory & PJ havent been seeing eye to eye in the last few events? not sure if this isnt bullsh1t but heard that rorys been pretty vocal on-course about his disapproval of his looper.

would be sad to see.

staker

I followed them for a few holes last weekend,all seemed fine to me tbh. But then it was only a €250,000 first prize:pac:

America is where he needs to be,as good and all as the European Tour is,if he's to be considered a great,he'll have to consistently beat the americans in their own back yard.

blackwaterfish

staker wrote: »

America is where he needs to be,as good and all as the European Tour is,if he's to be considered a great,he'll have to consistently beat the americans in their own back yard.

well fair enough but surely he'd be better off straddling the atlantic, like the behemoth he has become, and getting the best out of both tours ( the reason many think that top euro golfers are more rounded & accomplished golfers and why they own most of the worlds top ten)

... maybe this is his intention anyway.

WHIP IT!

blackwaterfish wrote: »

well fair enough but surely he'd be better off straddling the atlantic, like the behemoth he has become, and getting the best out of both tours ( the reason many think that top euro golfers are more rounded & accomplished golfers and why they own most of the worlds top ten)

... maybe this is his intention anyway.

Yep, I would imagine that's the intention. From a practical sense, this is not going to make a huge difference - he will play a couple more events in the US and a couple less in Europe. No big deal. Just draws a line under the fall out he had with the PGA Tour last year when they insisted on him playing a certain number of events and he refused, therefore relinquishing his card.

Opics

blackwaterfish wrote: »

hauld on a sec

didnt yan mcilroy fella not give it serious sauce right after the ryder cup that he was a european tour man through & through?... and all the scribes had a drooling session about how great it was to see such loyalty from one so young?

or was that a dream i had?

chubby needs to get his **** together and manage this youngfella maturely.

the poxy sun & the mirror and the like will have a daily "rory watch" piece before long.... hope he's not becoming a tabloid editors wet dream.

on a slight tangent:

has anyone heard the rumour that rory & PJ havent been seeing eye to eye in the last few events? not sure if this isnt bullsh1t but heard that rorys been pretty vocal on-course about his disapproval of his looper.

would be sad to see.

What the hell are you on? And who the **** is PJ? :pac:

Leslie91

Opics wrote: »

What the hell are you on? And who the **** is PJ? :pac:

Probably meant JP?, the caddie?. He spends so much time defending JP you'd have to wonder. I can see a new man on the bag next year.

Martin567

The fact that Rory is only 22 and so still very immature is the only reason that I would excuse the nonsense he comes out with at times. It seems as though he just says the first thing that comes into his head only to the say the complete opposite some time later. Unfortunately, his Twitter obsession only makes this worse. Surely he must know that everything he says is now being monitored and yet he continues to tweet without engaging his brain.

Jay Townsend's comment about his course management being worse than a 10 year old's was out of order and not the sort of thing a commentator should say. I think he deserved to pulled up for that but not the way that Rory did.

"Shut up. You're a failed golfer and your opinion means nothing to me." Does Rory know how many "failed golfers" there are working in the media, as swing coaches/teachers and as managers/agents? Does he regard them all with equal contempt? Chubby Chandler is by any definition a failed golfer. I wonder what he felt about Rory's comment above. Sure, he makes plenty money out of managing Rory but I'd like to believe that Rory appreciates his work and doesn't look down his nose at him in the way that the above comment might suggest.

Rory is clearly a phenomenal golfer with the potential to achieve anything in the game. It's hardly likely to bother him but I'm just finding it very difficult to warm to him. I'm constantly reading about how he is the complete antithesis of Tiger and he has so much humility, etc. I can only comment based on what comes out of his own mouth but it seems to me that humility is the one thing he is really lacking in. I'd love to be proved wrong and maybe it is just immaturity but that's just how it looks to me at the moment.

Tones69

Martin567 wrote: »

The fact that Rory is only 22 and so still very immature is the only reason that I would excuse the nonsense he comes out with at times. It seems as though he just says the first thing that comes into his head only to the say the complete opposite some time later. Unfortunately, his Twitter obsession only makes this worse. Surely he must know that everything he says is now being monitored and yet he continues to tweet without engaging his brain.

Jay Townsend's comment about his course management being worse than a 10 year old's was out of order and not the sort of thing a commentator should say. I think he deserved to pulled up for that but not the way that Rory did.

"Shut up. You're a failed golfer and your opinion means nothing to me." Does Rory know how many "failed golfers" there are working in the media, as swing coaches/teachers and as managers/agents? Does he regard them all with equal contempt? Chubby Chandler is by any definition a failed golfer. I wonder what he felt about Rory's comment above. Sure, he makes plenty money out of managing Rory but I'd like to believe that Rory appreciates his work and doesn't look down his nose at him in the way that the above comment might suggest.

Rory is clearly a phenomenal golfer with the potential to achieve anything in the game. It's hardly likely to bother him but I'm just finding it very difficult to warm to him. I'm constantly reading about how he is the complete antithesis of Tiger and he has so much humility, etc. I can only comment based on what comes out of his own mouth but it seems to me that humility is the one thing he is really lacking in. I'd love to be proved wrong and maybe it is just immaturity but that's just how it looks to me at the moment.

What rory said was true, but what ur saying isnt really fair, should every failed golfer in the world take offense? Thats like me calling someone fat, do all fat people gun for me then?!?!
Rorys the same as the rest of us, but its just the fact that hes one of the best golfers in the world so he cant eat sleep or pi$$ without someone taking him up on it
Bottom line is hes young and rich and i dont think he cares what any of us really think to be honest, hes doing things his way, hes saying things his way and hes dead right, why shouldnt he.
People cant handle truth and honesty

Martin567

Tones69 wrote: »

What rory said was true, but what ur saying isnt really fair, should every failed golfer in the world take offense? Thats like me calling someone fat, do all fat people gun for me then?!?!
Rorys the same as the rest of us, but its just the fact that hes one of the best golfers in the world so he cant eat sleep or pi$$ without someone taking him up on it
Bottom line is hes young and rich and i dont think he cares what any of us really think to be honest, hes doing things his way, hes saying things his way and hes dead right, why shouldnt he.
People cant handle truth and honesty

What you call truth and honesty, I would call simply saying the first thing that pops into his head. I said on here after the Open that the comments he made about not even trying to adapt his game for the wind were silly. He admitted this himself last week at the Irish Open.

If you said that you had no interest in a person's opinion simply because they were fat, I think all "fat" people would be entitled to be insulted by that.

Do you not accept that Rory is not just like one of us? The media is watching everything he says. There's nothing wrong with truth or honesty but a bit of cop-on wouldn't go astray either. Do you remember his tweet from a few months back during a Man Utd game - "Get Gibson off, he's the worst player on the pitch"? Now this was probably true but he still shouldn't have said it. If you or I said that, nobody would care. When Rory does it, it becomes news. Darron Gibson could just as easily have tweeted during that Sunday evening at Augusta - "Get McIlroy off, he's the worst player out there". That would have been an honest opinion and perfectly true on the night but it would still have been wrong to do it.

Leslie91

Martin567 wrote: »

What you call truth and honesty, I would call simply saying the first thing that pops into his head. I said on here after the Open that the comments he made about not even trying to adapt his game for the wind were silly. He admitted this himself last week at the Irish Open.

If you said that you had no interest in a person's opinion simply because they were fat, I think all "fat" people would be entitled to be insulted by that.

Do you not accept that Rory is not just like one of us? The media is watching everything he says. There's nothing wrong with truth or honesty but a bit of cop-on wouldn't go astray either. Do you remember his tweet from a few months back during a Man Utd game - "Get Gibson off, he's the worst player on the pitch"? Now this was probably true but he still shouldn't have said it. If you or I said that, nobody would care. When Rory does it, it becomes news. Darron Gibson could just as easily have tweeted during that Sunday evening at Augusta - "Get McIlroy off, he's the worst player out there". That would have been an honest opinion and perfectly true on the night but it would still have been wrong to do it.

I'm with you Martin. 2 v good posts.

blackwaterfish

jay townsends comments on twitter were way too personal.

Rory's reponse was immature. he's learning to mature the hard way... in front of the media. but at least he's learning to control his mouth... albiet slowly.

j townsend is a clearly a cave dwelling troll.

plus, anybody who argues on twitter, regardless of age or maturity, comes across like a petulant 8 year old. thats just the nature of twitter.

.... b*ll*x essentially.

jackal

Martin567 wrote: »

Do you not accept that Rory is not just like one of us? The media is watching everything he says. There's nothing wrong with truth or honesty but a bit of cop-on wouldn't go astray either. Do you remember his tweet from a few months back during a Man Utd game - "Get Gibson off, he's the worst player on the pitch"? Now this was probably true but he still shouldn't have said it. If you or I said that, nobody would care. When Rory does it, it becomes news. Darron Gibson could just as easily have tweeted during that Sunday evening at Augusta - "Get McIlroy off, he's the worst player out there". That would have been an honest opinion and perfectly true on the night but it would still have been wrong to do it.

What is your point, that he should learn his lessons without having to learn his lessons?

He is just like one of us except his mistakes are over-analysed by people due to the media interest in him. So what... he seems well able to take the rough with the smooth, and seems to have an opinion and not just be a media-friendly "say nothing" drone golfer.

He had a full on meltdown in front of the world at Augusta and came back stronger so I think he is well able to deal with a few raised eyebrows and spilled cups of tea if he happens to actually offer an opinion that is controversial.

Do you not remember Tiger Woods being a complete toss-pot to the media and fans his whole career? What harm did it do him?

Leslie91

jackal wrote: »

What is your point, that he should learn his lessons without having to learn his lessons?

He is just like one of us except his mistakes are over-analysed by people due to the media interest in him. So what... he seems well able to take the rough with the smooth, and seems to have an opinion and not just be a media-friendly "say nothing" drone golfer.

He had a full on meltdown in front of the world at Augusta and came back stronger so I think he is well able to deal with a few raised eyebrows and spilled cups of tea if he happens to actually offer an opinion that is controversial.

Do you not remember Tiger Woods being a complete toss-pot to the media and fans his whole career? What harm did it do him?

I like this about him but using the likes of twitter to slag/attack people is simply not right for a guy in his position. He might think what he likes and say what he likes privately but it's not OK to publicly have a real go at people. What Jay T said was wrong but ever hear the saying '2 wrongs never make a right' or what about hold the higher ground. Rory should be above this crap publicly.

premierstone

Leslie91 wrote: »

What Jay T said was wrong but ever hear the saying '2 wrongs never make a right' or what about hold the higher ground. Rory should be above this crap publicly.

I would agree with you if Jay Townend had only criticised Rory, but he was very damning and went well over the top on hes criticism of Rory's caddy and Rory was dead right to publicly back JP.

Martin567

jackal wrote: »

What is your point, that he should learn his lessons without having to learn his lessons?

He is just like one of us except his mistakes are over-analysed by people due to the media interest in him. So what... he seems well able to take the rough with the smooth, and seems to have an opinion and not just be a media-friendly "say nothing" drone golfer.

He had a full on meltdown in front of the world at Augusta and came back stronger so I think he is well able to deal with a few raised eyebrows and spilled cups of tea if he happens to actually offer an opinion that is controversial.

Do you not remember Tiger Woods being a complete toss-pot to the media and fans his whole career? What harm did it do him?

I've said before that Tiger lacks even the most basic manners in a lot of his dealings with the media. I certainly wasn't comparing him favourably to Rory in that regard.

Regarding your first point, I would obviously prefer if Rory was naturally less arrogant and petulant at times without having to learn otherwise. However, I accept it may just be due to immaturity and hopefully he will change over time.

It does annoy me to hear nonsense about how refreshing it is to hear Rory being so honest and truthful. I have yet to hear him say anything on Twitter or otherwise that I would consider to be remotely interesting or insightful. Most of his controversial comments have simply been idiotic and silly and are usually retracted at a later date. He seems to speak without fully engaging his brain and this is what he needs to avoid in future.

There are plenty interesting interviewees in golf. Padraig Harrington, Phil Mickelson & Geoff Ogilvy to name just three. Tiger Woods is probably the blandest of all.

sollar

I hope he goes to the US PGA. I like watching the golf in the late evening/night on sky. Good to see him go head to head with Tiger too.

Tones69

Martin567 wrote: »

What you call truth and honesty, I would call simply saying the first thing that pops into his head. I said on here after the Open that the comments he made about not even trying to adapt his game for the wind were silly. He admitted this himself last week at the Irish Open.

If you said that you had no interest in a person's opinion simply because they were fat, I think all "fat" people would be entitled to be insulted by that.

Do you not accept that Rory is not just like one of us? The media is watching everything he says. There's nothing wrong with truth or honesty but a bit of cop-on wouldn't go astray either. Do you remember his tweet from a few months back during a Man Utd game - "Get Gibson off, he's the worst player on the pitch"? Now this was probably true but he still shouldn't have said it. If you or I said that, nobody would care. When Rory does it, it becomes news. Darron Gibson could just as easily have tweeted during that Sunday evening at Augusta - "Get McIlroy off, he's the worst player out there". That would have been an honest opinion and perfectly true on the night but it would still have been wrong to do it.

If it was true then why shouldnt he have said it? NOBODY cares, only the media because theyre nosey people trying to make headlines but stirring ****. Simple. Id much rather him be like this than be really nice on camera then call someone a prick when the camera is off, but i guess not everyones like me. He says what he wants without much thoughts at times perhaps, but thats the beauty of him in my opinion

Tones69

Martin567 wrote: »

I've said before that Tiger lacks even the most basic manners in a lot of his dealings with the media. I certainly wasn't comparing him favourably to Rory in that regard.

Regarding your first point, I would obviously prefer if Rory was naturally less arrogant and petulant at times without having to learn otherwise. However, I accept it may just be due to immaturity and hopefully he will change over time.

It does annoy me to hear nonsense about how refreshing it is to hear Rory being so honest and truthful. I have yet to hear him say anything on Twitter or otherwise that I would consider to be remotely interesting or insightful. Most of his controversial comments have simply been idiotic and silly and are usually retracted at a later date. He seems to speak without fully engaging his brain and this is what he needs to avoid in future.

There are plenty interesting interviewees in golf. Padraig Harrington, Phil Mickelson & Geoff Ogilvy to name just three. Tiger Woods is probably the blandest of all.

It annoys me to hear such nonsense from you about rory being this way and being that way, and he should grow up and he should do this and that, are you one of the best golfers in the world at 22? Do you know what it feels like to have everything you do and say recorded??

Imagine if we all heard and saw every move uve ever made? We'd probably think ur an arsehole, get my drift? And why does he need to avoid it in the future, because it makes for better tv and maybe more people will like him? Or just because you say so because u were never 22, a brilliant golfer, and a stinking rich millionaire who doesnt really care what any of us think, me included

foxyboxer

I think it's refreshing to see him wear his heart on his sleeve really.
It makes a change from the bland "The goal is to say nothing" approach of Woods. However, he's 22 and stands to make a mint from endorsement deals.

Watched him tee off at 17 in Killarney on the Friday. People had their arms flailing over the advert-hoardings. One of the entourage told people to "remove your arms, we need the adverts seen" :eek: :rolleyes:

I got the impression that Rory is a commodity being touted to the highest bidders! Hopefully when he reaches Woods' age he'll still be strongly opinionated and not a "I hit the ball real swell today, great to see the guys out here and the fans......blah blah blah..." bore.

Leslie91

premierstone wrote: »

I would agree with you if Jay Townend had only criticised Rory, but he was very damning and went well over the top on hes criticism of Rory's caddy and Rory was dead right to publicly back JP.

It is fine to publicly back JP but laying into Jay T was wrong. He could have said something along the lines of 'your opinion is not something I have any time for/take seriously, JP is my caddie and a fine one at that, end of'.

(I'd love a job as an adviser to him!!!)

premierstone

Leslie91 wrote: »

.(I'd would love a job as an adviser to him!!!)

As would I, my first piece of advise would be, ''Rory you need to cut loose that Danish one, what she really needs is a good seeing to from say an advisor or the likes ''

Martin567

Tones69 wrote: »

It annoys me to hear such nonsense from you about rory being this way and being that way, and he should grow up and he should do this and that, are you one of the best golfers in the world at 22? Do you know what it feels like to have everything you do and say recorded??

Imagine if we all heard and saw every move uve ever made? We'd probably think ur an arsehole, get my drift? And why does he need to avoid it in the future, because it makes for better tv and maybe more people will like him? Or just because you say so because u were never 22, a brilliant golfer, and a stinking rich millionaire who doesnt really care what any of us think, me included

I hope you feel better now you've got that gobbledygook off your chest. I stand by everything I said earlier.

Rory is a phenomenal talent and to be where he is at 22 is extraordinary. I've simply commented on some of his off-course behaviour which has been very naive at best, petulant and arrogant at worst. I'm all for opinionated, intelligent, honest and truthful rather than the bland, say-nothing interviews of some players. Tiger is the best example of this. All I'm saying is that most of Rory's controversial comments would come under the heading of misguided, childish and insulting. He could easily have refuted Jay Townsends comments in the way that Leslie91 set out above. This would have been opinionated, honest and truthful but not childish, petulant or insulting.

Since you believe that Rory is right to say whatever he wants so long as it is true, can you deal with the rest of my point about Darron Gibson? Would you defend his right to tweet that Rory was rubbish that Sunday at Augusta? On that particular day it would have been true so why shouldn't he have said it? If you think he shouldn't have done so then you are surely guilty of double standards. Or is it the case that ordinary mortals like you, I or Darron Gibson should respect our betters while superstars like Rory can insult whoever they want and are apparently correct to do so?

mike65

jackal wrote: »

Do you not remember Tiger Woods being a complete toss-pot to the media and fans his whole career? What harm did it do him?

No one likes or respects him and the media was happy to twist the knife when his true personal character came out. Okay he's still rich and famous but I suspect one day he'll wish he'd been a bit nicer on the way up the greasy pole.