Closed on Monday

cesc77

And half day Wednesday.

Following on from a recent thread,why do some businesses close on a Monday giving them a nice long weekend in this current climate.

Butchers and hairdressers do it.Are they the exceptions who are making money now?If it was me Id be open and say to staff "tough times,6 day week,wage cut,home visits home deliveries,etc so you can keep your job"

If you are working at a loss then obviously this doesnt work.

I dont think people in this country have caught on yet.We're sinking and the long weekend and/or half day wednesday is in the past.

Dont get me started on the customer service here.

This was fine 10 years ago.

What would you do to help out your business ?

AlmightyCushion

I don't know of anywhere that does this, except maybe bank holiday mondays.

mikemac

Motorcycle dealers do this, almost a tradition
Open on Saturday but close Monday

Crazy Horse 6

Yeah noticed a lot of it around lately. Can't really blame them tbh what with rates,wages,insurance etc...

cesc77

We must be exempt from the recession in the north.:rolleyes:

Im serious,we have always had this up here and it doesnt make sense.

*thought you had retired Cushion?*

Not that I mind or anything

stacexD

Hairdressers close on a monday because the weekend is their busiest time and monday is their day off.
I guess a lot of places who close early on a wednesday don't do a lot of business on a wednesday afternoon and give the staff a half day to recharge for the rest of the week. (well thats what I hope all of my future employers will do )

Micky Dolenz

A lot of places do it to make up a five day working week. A lot of places open on Saturday.

AlmightyCushion

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I don't know of anywhere that does this, except maybe bank holiday mondays.

It's very common in Kerry, most smaller businesses in Listowel either close on Mondays or only operate half days.

cesc77

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

A lot of places do it to make up a five day working week. A lot of places open on Saturday.

Ive no problem with spreading the load over the week,but am suggesting that they employ people over 6 days.

I sound like a company man now,dont I?

If it was my business I would keep it open,convince staff(nicely)to be on site and ergo satisfy my customers moreso than before.

iliketeaandcake

An awful lot of businesses in rural towns do the half day Wednesday thing. To be honest I think it's rubbish. And what's with the schools in cork finishing early on a Wednesday?

mrsdewinter

The half-day Wednesday used to be a strong tradition among retailers in small-town Ireland. It would have been quite accepted practice until ten years ago.
Likewise, hairdressers and beauticians were known for taking Monday off: it made sense after a busy Saturday.
I don't see anything wrong with it. The only responsibility retailers have to their customers is that they will provide a good service. If you're a customer and the opening hours don't suit you, vote with your feet and go somewhere else.

Micky Dolenz

cesc77 wrote: »

Ive no problem with spreading the load over the week,but am suggesting that they employ people over 6 days.

I sound like a company man now,dont I?

If it was my business I would keep it open,convince staff(nicely)to be on site and argo satisfy my customers moreso than before.

If businesses are doing it for economical reasons, they are obviously losing more money in wages then they are bringing in. Cutting hours is sometimes necessary to survive.

Daegerty

there is a government run dump (although they'd call it a civil amenity site) near where I live. closed monday

Jaysus I was fierce pissed off one day when I showed up on monday car filled to the brim with ould sh1te I was dieing to get rid of to find it closed with just one fella swanning around and another unlucky customer who showed up trying to get in "were closed today!" ffs

dee.

Never heard of the half day Wednesday thing! My mom owned a beauty salon back in the "boom" days and always closed on a Sunday and Monday. The weekends were incredibly busy for her so she deserved the break. Mondays were fairly quiet in comparison to the rest of the week.

Mr Jinx

cesc77 wrote: »

Ive no problem with spreading the load over the week,but am suggesting that they employ people over 6 days.

I sound like a company man now,dont I?

If it was my business I would keep it open,convince staff(nicely)to be on site and argo satisfy my customers moreso than before.

most place that do this are 1 or 2 man operations, barbers, butchers etc. Monday is just their day off after working saturday

mikemac

cesc77 wrote: »

Id be open and say to staff "tough times,6 day week,wage cut,home visits home deliveries,etc so you can keep your job"

cesc77 wrote: »

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If it was my business I would keep it open,convince staff(nicely)to be on site and argo satisfy my customers moreso than before.

If your staff are paid by the hour they might love the extra hours.

But the way I'm reading your posts you'd be asking staff on a salary to work an extra day for free, is that right?

Might work, might not. Every business is different

stacexD

iliketeaandcake wrote: »

An awful lot of businesses in rural towns do the half day Wednesday thing. To be honest I think it's rubbish. And what's with the schools in cork finishing early on a Wednesday?

Ah that made the week! monday and tuesday meant it was almost wednesday, thursday and friday was almost the weekend.
I imagine the week woulda dragged on and on without it

Capt'n Midnight

National Museums are closed Mondays too.

cesc77

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

If businesses are doing it for economical reasons, they are obviously losing more money in wages then they are bringing in. Cutting hours is sometimes necessary to survive.

Its always been like this in the north.

My point is that they havent changed,even in the last couple of years.

x_Ellie_x

My dad manages a pub in Dublin. He's started to open from 6pm on Tuesdays and is closed all day Wednesday. This is done to save money. Tuesday & Wednesdays are the pubs least busiest days. Due to the way things are going, the pub doesn't make enough money to bother opening tue-wed.

syklops

cesc77 wrote: »

Ive no problem with spreading the load over the week,but am suggesting that they employ people over 6 days.

I sound like a company man now,dont I?

If it was my business I would keep it open,convince staff(nicely)to be on site and ergo satisfy my customers moreso than before.

And after a year of running your business that way, you would see there are trends. And it might make more sense from a trend point of view to close at certain times.

If every week from 3pm to 5pm on a Wednesday, no-one comes in, then it means every week for the last year you have paid a waitress/hairdresser/bank clerk/whatever 2 hours salary to work when they didn't have to. Minimum wage wise, that is ~16 euros a week over 52 weeks, which was unnecessary, which works out at just over 800 euros in the year which was paid unnecessarily. Better that money is in your pocket, rather than his/hers, right?

Mike 1972

In some parts of the country libraries close monday although if they are only going to open a 5 day week it makes more sense than closing on Saturday (which may be the only day people who have to work for a living can access the service)

An case could be made for things like banks/tax offices/solicitors/Doctors/dentists/other parts of the health service to close on Monday instead of Saturday.

The half day Wednesday thing doesnt apply everywhere. In some towns its Thursday or some other day although very few businesses still observe it.

cesc77

syklops wrote: »

And after a year of running your business that way, you would see there are trends. And it might make more sense from a trend point of view to close at certain times.

If every week from 3pm to 5pm on a Wednesday, no-one comes in, then it means every week for the last year you have paid a waitress/hairdresser/bank clerk/whatever 2 hours salary to work when they didn't have to. Minimum wage wise, that is ~16 euros a week over 52 weeks, which was unnecessary, which works out at just over 800 euros in the year which was paid unnecessarily. Better that money is in your pocket, rather than his/hers, right?

I stated in my original post that if it wasnt economically viable,then fair enough.

I do not have my own business but was stating that they need to stay open in the present climate and a long weekend or and weekend off is a strange reason for it.

syklops

cesc77 wrote: »

I stated in my original post that if it wasnt economically viable,then fair enough.

I do not have my own business but was stating that they need to stay open in the present climate and a long weekend or and weekend off is a strange reason for it.

Well who are you to decide whether it is economically viable or not, until you look at their books. In my example, I used minimum wage as an example, but there are other costs, including electricity, water, gas, heating, and other charges. The only reason the manager of a place would shut a place is based on cost. Its not coz he was feeling lazy, and in this economic climate its not because he was short of staff.

If want to bitch about not getting your 10 am latte, go to the R&R forum.

Yakult

It's been going on my town for countless years, they still do it and they wonder why people drive the extra 20 minutes to the bigger town with better shops.

vampire of kilmainham

mikemac wrote: »

Motorcycle dealers do this, almost a tradition
Open on Saturday but close Monday

not anymore they dont

vampire of kilmainham

mrsdewinter wrote: »

The half-day Wednesday used to be a strong tradition among retailers in small-town Ireland. It would have been quite accepted practice until ten years ago.
Likewise, hairdressers and beauticians were known for taking Monday off: it made sense after a busy Saturday.
I don't see anything wrong with it. The only responsibility retailers have to their customers is that they will provide a good service. If you're a customer and the opening hours don't suit you, vote with your feet and go somewhere else.

a lot of hairdressers open saturdays and sundays now

Logical Fallacy

cesc77 wrote: »

If it was my business I would keep it open,convince staff(nicely)to be on site and ergo satisfy my customers moreso than before.

They are not doing it because they are lazy, they are doing it because the amount of money brought in on that day is not worth staying open for.

If it was your business it would be running at a loss man.