dota 2 showcase - 1 million dollars to winner

Tar.Aldarion

www.dota2.com


16 of the best dota teams invited to play at a tournament.
Before it is even out 1.6 million in prizes is being given to this showcase tournament. Been waiting on this game for ages, cant wait to watch the stream

Retr0gamer

ríomhaire

I want want to know if it's going to be free to play or not. I'm semi-interested but I don't want to spend a chunk of cash to find out I hate it. I know Dota Allstars, LoL and HoN are free, but I've heard the communities are terribly unfriendly to new players and seeing as Dota 2 is going to ship with Valve's coaching system and a bunch of tutorials it sounds like it's going to be the easiest of the lot to pick up, assuming it doesn't cost me €40.

Tar.Aldarion

i doubt it will be free as so many people will buy it, ill be getting it as soon as i can, it may be a case that it becomes free in time though! if it was free at launch that would be amazing. to get an idea of gameplay play any of the titles you mention, yes they are unfriendly, as are most games, especially the competitive side. It may get amplified in dota as one new person ruins a game.

perhaps try hon? it is free now and its all new player vs new player for the most part, you cant play the people who bought accounts till you earn it.

Burgo

Any idea what it's going to cost?

Tar.Aldarion

dunno, heard rumours of 60 dollars

they might announce at the launch, lets hope free!

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

dunno, heard rumours of 60 dollars

they might announce at the launch, lets hope free!

No , I really really hope its not f2p, I would rather spend the money and have access to the whole hero pool straight away rather than savign up with micro transactions, don't get me wrong, I think it works in LoL, and HoN's take on it albeit a rip off might work as well ( I care less now as my account got the legacy upgrade )


But this is DOTA MAN, how could you possibly want to play with a limited hero pool ?? and they would shoot themselves in the foot if it was f2p as the pro players will all have to save up to get the characters etc

Spunge

I really hope it's not F2P, i really hate that, and it makes the community pretty ****ty (as if dota-clone communities werent bad enough).

But this is some epic advertising for 1,000,000 dollars, every hon, LoL, DoTA player will probably end up checking out this tourney to see what it's like.

$60 does seem a bit much but sure people will buy it no matter what.

ríomhaire

GO_Bear wrote: »

No , I really really hope its not f2p, I would rather spend the money and have access to the whole hero pool straight away rather than savign up with micro transactions, don't get me wrong, I think it works in LoL, and HoN's take on it albeit a rip off might work as well ( I care less now as my account got the legacy upgrade )


But this is DOTA MAN, how could you possibly want to play with a limited hero pool ?? and they would shoot themselves in the foot if it was f2p as the pro players will all have to save up to get the characters etc

Perhaps they could do limited character pool for F2P, premium membership with all heroes for €40, single hero purchases or cosmetic items as micro-transactions.

Or the ability to unlock heroes through playing with the options of buying them to save time. Being F2P doesn't mean they'd have to use the same system as LoL.

ShadowHearth

I dont mind paying full price for it. if people payed full price for portal 2, then i dont see problem with DOTA 2.


Any news on release date thought?

GO_Bear

ríomhaire wrote: »

Perhaps they could do limited character pool for F2P, premium membership with all heroes for €40, single hero purchases or cosmetic items as micro-transactions.

They could but I think it would be counter productive, immediately adding a rift into the community splitting it into two groups

ríomhaire wrote: »

Or the ability to unlock heroes through playing with the options of buying them to save time.

This is what LoL does, great for most people, and I quite like it in league, but if I wanted to buy the whole hero pool it would cost about 300 dollars isn't it ?

ríomhaire wrote: »

Being F2P doesn't mean they'd have to use the same system as LoL.

Yes but they where the first MoBA to do it right

Its just my preference for it to be a one time payment, there are pros and cons to both really

Companion box

There will be a one off payment but you'll have the option to buy hats....

ShadowHearth

Well, they did this to TF, so i am prety sure they will pull off something similar in dota.



i actually cant recognise the companies i grew up with lately.

capcom - the biggest greediest bastards with theyr lock up save games.
blizzard - AH for real money in diablo 3
Valve - From making extremely high quality games, moved to support F2P model.
EA - Started to be decent and lets developers to be creative?

ríomhaire

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Valve - From making extremely high quality games, moved to support F2P model.

You seem to suggest these two things are mutually exclusive.

GO_Bear wrote: »

This is what LoL does, great for most people, and I quite like it in league, but if I wanted to buy the whole hero pool it would cost about 300 dollars isn't it ?

I have no idea, I've never played any of these games except for a single game of Dota Allstars I barely remember. I was under the impression from what I've read though that the way the LoL system worked was that there is a rota of free heroes that changes so at any given time you have access to certain heroes for free, and then you can pay to access a given hero all the time. What I was suggesting was you start of with access to only a few starter heroes (say four strength heroes, four agility heroes, four intelligence heroes (I'm assuming the heroes work similarly to WC3 heroes)) and as you play each hero/win matches/reach certain milestones you either unlock more heroes or earn in-game points to buy heroes. That way you can earn every hero permanently for free if you're willing to invest enough time or can just buy them. $300 is a lot to get every hero though. Surely it should be less than one hundred.

As for splitting the playerbase. Well, there's always a split in a game that doesn't give every weapon to everyone from the start. Whether that's Dota, CoDBO, BFBC2 or what have you. The only difference between those systems and what I'm suggesting is that you could pay to get stuff faster, same as TF2. All gameplay affecting things should be achievable without having to spend more money than other players.

ShadowHearth

ríomhaire wrote: »

You seem to suggest these two things are mutually exclusive.



I have no idea, I've never played any of these games except for a single game of Dota Allstars I barely remember. I was under the impression from what I've read though that the way the LoL system worked was that there is a rota of free heroes that changes so at any given time you have access to certain heroes for free, and then you can pay to access a given hero all the time. What I was suggesting was you start of with access to only a few starter heroes (say four strength heroes, four agility heroes, four intelligence heroes (I'm assuming the heroes work similarly to WC3 heroes)) and as you play each hero/win matches/reach certain milestones you either unlock more heroes or earn in-game points to buy heroes. That way you can earn every hero permanently for free if you're willing to invest enough time or can just buy them. $300 is a lot to get every hero though. Surely it should be less than one hundred.

As for splitting the playerbase. Well, there's always a split in a game that doesn't give every weapon to everyone from the start. Whether that's Dota, CoDBO, BFBC2 or what have you. The only difference between those systems and what I'm suggesting is that you could pay to get stuff faster, same as TF2. All gameplay affecting things should be achievable without having to spend more money than other players.

no one tells you to own all heroes. buying out all of them is very stupid. i play lol for 2-3 months now and i only barely mastered 2 champions! i own around 6 of my own champs and on lookout for one more as one of my regulars got nerfed to holy jesus.

i sort of like the model of earning your own champions. they feel more special for you later on.

Tar.Aldarion

to show how serious business dota 2 will be, a man has bought one of the organisations entering the competition for 6.2 MILLION

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/03/serious-biz-dota-team-bought-for-6m/#more-68363

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

to show how serious business dota 2 will be, a man has bought one of the organisations entering the competition for 6.2 MILLION

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/03/serious-biz-dota-team-bought-for-6m/#more-68363

:eek: Serious money there, I just hope the game lives upto its predecessor !

ShadowHearth

How can they do a such a huge tourney on game that is not even out yet?!

So 17 will be only for tourney or public release too?

GO_Bear

ShadowHearth wrote: »

How can they do a such a huge tourney on game that is not even out yet?!

So 17 will be only for tourney or public release too?

The tourney and the first public viewing is what was announced, I am not sure when the game is out , but surely it must be ready to go or almost finished for them to be having a tourney

Tar.Aldarion

think they are beta'ing it in aurtumn, i'd say it's quite done though, just needs some balancing and more testing etc

sounds like a lot of money in it so far!

ríomhaire

Says on the Steam Store page that they're planning on a large-scale beta in the autumn.

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

think they are beta'ing it in aurtumn, i'd say it's quite done though, just needs some balancing and more testing etc

sounds like a lot of money in it so far!

Hope its open beta, you can only really balance these games as they go along, you can never expect how some people will use the heroes

Tar.Aldarion

hope so, probably not, maybe invites or something to drum up interest.

cant wait to watch the tourney on vent with popcorn :pac:

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

hope so, probably not, maybe invites or something to drum up interest.

cant wait to watch the tourney on vent with popcorn :pac:

I'll be away at a conference

Interesting to see if they port all of the dota heroes like Invoker and Rubik

Tar.Aldarion

have no idea who rubik is!

i hear there is internet at conferences

Tar.Aldarion

have no idea who rubik is!

i hear there is internet at conferences

GO_Bear

ye but we all know conferences are post grads holidays , so I want to get drunk ;o , and I am to poor to pay for an extra bag with Ryan air so cannot fit my laptop !

Tar.Aldarion

just not hardcore enough! it's rare that i look forward to paying for something!

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

just not hardcore enough! it's rare that i look forward to paying for something!

Well I always look forward to getting laid

Edit, if people don't get the joke it just looks weird

Tar.Aldarion

haha!

also do many hon people use steam? thats usually how we get games, 'yo hon now'

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

haha!

also do many hon people use steam? thats usually how we get games, 'yo hon now'

I use it but don't play many steam games !

Tar.Aldarion

i sees, jusst wonder is it handy, i suppose people could just message in hon

ShadowHearth

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

to show how serious business dota 2 will be, a man has bought one of the organisations entering the competition for 6.2 MILLION

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/03/serious-biz-dota-team-bought-for-6m/#more-68363

i only read this now... they got a fellas who play DOTA for 6.2mil... to play in game that noone ever seen...

i thought starcraft was biggest esport... i was wrong...

Tar.Aldarion

well to be fair the organisation he bought has starcraft II and other games too.

Sod'o swords

Yerrr.

Can't say i've played Dota, but that set up looks very impressive. Plus I felt the need to share that because of how ridiculous it is.

Tar.Aldarion

this is the awesome video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OzWIFX8M-Y

we used to blast it out on lan while playing

some more songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9CxQvbtElU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbOvXA8heeE

Tar.Aldarion

some leaked pix

GO_Bear

GO_Bear

Looks very TF2 / LoLsie

Still witholding judgement, apparently the hardcore DoTA elitests are mad about the mana bars :P

Tar.Aldarion

cool, hope they spruce up the UI

ShadowHearth

i sort of loling at the bass hunter and sexy girls... all this for geek game dota... :rolleyes:


all the tities aside lets hope its going to be good!

GO_Bear

ShadowHearth wrote: »

i sort of loling at the bass hunter and sexy girls... all this for geek game dota... :rolleyes:


all the tities aside lets hope its going to be good!

I am sure they will try to make the transistion from LoL easy , to snipe customers :O

THe nevermore screenie shows a tutorial

Tar.Aldarion

GO_Bear wrote: »

Looks very TF2 / LoLsie

Still witholding judgement, apparently the hardcore DoTA elitests are mad about the mana bars :P

it does indeed, hope you can increase the graphics settings from those!
ye well **** them, i added mana bars in dota anyway



edit: i think it ahs been said you can only see your team mates mana

Sierra Oscar

Keep in mind those leaked pics are from a beta - its all very much a work in progress. I have seen too many people trying to review the entire game today based on two still shots!

Now to track down the leaker . . .

Tar.Aldarion

yep and the beta wont even be out for a while, let alone the real game!

Tar.Aldarion

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roshan!
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